The "MIND FUCK" Thread...

[HomerPindar]

Re: Re: Don't know about sub space Areden, but...

I think I need some classes in chat 101! Just kidding!
~laughing~

Now, you KNOW I couldn't just let that one go by

You might find some dialogue on the term "sub space" on the BDSM boards here... if I had to try to relate, I'd tend to call it an altered mental state, due to many variables... many of which we've discussed above. There are other variables available.

Well, isn't sex, or hightened sexual tension, nothing more than an altered state?

HomerPindar

 

[ozme52]

Re: Re: Don't know about sub space Areden, but...

I think I need some classes in chat 101! Just kidding!
~laughing~

I give lessons Arden, I think you'd find my fees...... delightful!

 

[Arden]

Re: Re: Re: Don't know about sub space Areden, but...

Now, you KNOW I couldn't just let that one go by

Well, isn't sex, or hightened sexual tension, nothing more than an altered state?

HomerPindar

I expect you don't let much get by you at all!

In answer to your question about heightened sexual tension being an altered state, the answer is yes. ~wink~

But, for the sake of mystery and challenge, what we're talking about here is way above and beyond what may be normal for most. It goes beyond what regular love and lust normally inspire.

If you backtrack to where we were talking about a near hypnotic state, you'll be headed back on track. It's a mental game, any way that you look at it. For many, it's something that has to be learned, for some it comes naturally. Sometimes physical touch is part of the game in a one-on-one situation, but that's another story that heads off in another direction.

 

[Arden]

Re: Re: Re: Don't know about sub space Areden, but...

I give lessons Arden, I think you'd find my fees...... delightful!

Lol!!! I'm sure your lessons would be delightful... but, sorry to say, I'm far to shy to even attend registration!

 

[ozme52]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't know about sub space Areden, but...

Lol!!! I'm sure your lessons would be delightful... but, sorry to say, I'm far to shy to even attend registration!

Excellent! I have a special on this week. Home tutoring!

 

[Arden]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't know about sub space Areden, but...

Excellent! I have a special on this week. Home tutoring!

BLUSH OMG I DON'T THINK SO

 

[ozme52]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't know about sub space Areden, but...

BLUSH OMG I DON'T THINK SO

Heh, had you blushing did I? If we were real-time, I'd have been able to capatalize on it.

I might even put you in a total MF state!

 

[HomerPindar]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't know about sub space Areden, but...

I expect you don't let much get by you at all!

Certainly not anything delivered by such a lovely lady

In answer to your question about heightened sexual tension being an altered state, the answer is yes. ~wink~

But, for the sake of mystery and challenge, what we're talking about here is way above and beyond what may be normal for most. It goes beyond what regular love and lust normally inspire.

If you backtrack to where we were talking about a near hypnotic state, you'll be headed back on track. It's a mental game, any way that you look at it. For many, it's something that has to be learned, for some it comes naturally. Sometimes physical touch is part of the game in a one-on-one situation, but that's another story that heads off in another direction.

People can get hypnotized just by staring at the scroll on their computer screen (although, admitedly, she was on perscriptions... well, never mind that ). What counts isn't just being hypnotized, I'm sure you'll agree, but the means that took you to that state.

Tests have already demonstrated a relation between cell phone use in vehicles and tunnel vision. When your mind becomes focused on the communication and not the surroundings this state becomes natural. Hence, online "mind fucks" are possible when the recipiet is comfortable being online, comfortable with the communication, and most importantly, reading someone who knows how to write erotica ...

HomerPindar

 

[Arden]

Someone brought it to my attention that the intense emotional state we've been discussing here is very similar to what is known as "sub space" in some types of sex lifestyles...

Any comments from folks that have experienced this?

Shameless bump!

 

[Soron]

I need to take some time and go back and read these pages, I think..

 

[Arden]

I need to take some time and go back and read these pages, I think..

I think the thread would have had more interest in another 'area' of Lit. So far, only a few have understood what we're talking about.

 

[Soron]

Arden, you hit the proverbial nail on the head here. If you are going to attempt any sort of real lovemaking on a computer or a phone don't you both want to attain 'mind fuck' status to get all you can out of the situation? Oterwise, it seems to me you both feel immediately a little empty after the orgasm takes place. There's no one there to hold you or feel the intensity of what you just went through, so you almost need that 'mind fuck' to make it real in your mind and your body.
How can you not want to 'crawl' inside the other persons head and try to make them feel what you want them to feel and vice versa? I know I would.

 

[Arden]

How can you not want to 'crawl' inside the other persons head and try to make them feel what you want them to feel and vice versa? I know I would.

Ready to crawl? LoL

 

[Soron]

Finally... Somebody got it!!!!!!!

How can you not want to 'crawl' inside the other persons head and try to make them feel what you want them to feel and vice versa? I know I would.

Ready to crawl? LoL

ready anytime you are...

 

[Arden]

How can you not want to 'crawl' inside the other persons head and try to make them feel what you want them to feel and vice versa? I know I would.

Ready to crawl? LoL

ready anytime you are...

 

[MissTaken]

Cool thread!

If I knew how to quote posts from one thread to another, I would bring over the post I did concerning phone sex and his "baritone timbre."

Subspace: there are different levels of subspace, generally having to do with the tension, arousal, and sensations that accompany a scene between a sub and her Dominant.

Ahh that trance like state, where you feel his hands on your body when all you have is his voice on the phone is akin to this head space...subspace.

There are additional characteristics of subspace that someoen not engaging in a power exchange is not likely to experience. So, I will skip that stuff.

There are times, recently, when a conversation is over, I lie there shaking, can't catch my breath and near tears as a result of our love making. The togetherness of the intimacy felt completely real. During these times, I need him to stay on the phone and talk to me until I am back to reality.

Hmmm I would guess that is a quality mind fuck!

I will be keeping an eye on this thread and add more when I have a bit more energy. I am tired tonight

 

[plzur her]

Arden

I think the thread would have had more interest in another 'area' of Lit. So far, only a few have understood what we're talking about.

I know exactly what your talking about.. I had a Domme that did cyber strictly for mind fucking... she had an awesome voice, we would seduce each other for about an hour on line, then when we couldnt stand it any longer, we would LD.. then she would take control for about an hour.. teasing , describing.. making me describe.. do things for her.. then we would do our best to orgasm at the same time.. and wow... i had my most powerful solo orgasms ever in my life with her.. I can describe more PM if you want.. but incredibly intense.. we then would lie there nearly speechless like we were in each others arms for about 15 minutes then fall asleep... it was really quite an erotic experience... Mind fucking.. hmmmmmmmm

 

[HomerPindar]

Arden, you hit the proverbial nail on the head here. If you are going to attempt any sort of real lovemaking on a computer or a phone don't you both want to attain 'mind fuck' status to get all you can out of the situation? Oterwise, it seems to me you both feel immediately a little empty after the orgasm takes place. There's no one there to hold you or feel the intensity of what you just went through, so you almost need that 'mind fuck' to make it real in your mind and your body.
How can you not want to 'crawl' inside the other persons head and try to make them feel what you want them to feel and vice versa? I know I would.

Actually, Soron, I'd have to say that you've hit the nail head with this point. While I don't object to getting ladies worked up, everyone needs a hobby, I would prefer it to be in person. Mind you, dont like having my mind fucked with by folks, specially those I'm suppose to be in a relationship with.

This isn't that.

HomerPindar

(and glad you bumped this arden)

 

[Arden]

Actually, Soron, I'd have to say that you've hit the nail head with this point. While I don't object to getting ladies worked up, everyone needs a hobby, I would prefer it to be in person. Mind you, dont like having my mind fucked with by folks, specially those I'm suppose to be in a relationship with.

This isn't that.

HomerPindar

(and glad you bumped this arden)

Hi Homer...

I'm copying this from a post I made at another thread...

Just a quick thought on telephone fun... In a long distance relationship (LDR), this type of play can be the glue that holds a couple together. It's fairly natural for some to drift in this direction after a long private conversation. If you have the right two personality types together, it can be downright wild.

I guess what I'm getting at is that although we'd all prefer to be there in person, it's not always possible. But I know where you're coming from.

 

[Soron]

I'd MUCH rather be there in person...

 

[Arden]

I'd MUCH rather be there in person...

So what do you think about all this?
Have you ever felt what we're talking about here?
It's an incredible feeling, you know...

 

[Soron]

Sweetheart, a mind fuck is something very special. I don' think most people can grasp it. As far as subspace is concerned, it's pretty damn close. Mind you, I've only ever been on the giving end of that.
It is a special place....a mind fuck.

 

[Arden]

Sweetheart, a mind fuck is something very special. I don' think most people can grasp it. As far as subspace is concerned, it's pretty damn close. Mind you, I've only ever been on the giving end of that.
It is a special place....a mind fuck.

Something very special... I like the way you said that.


Perhaps we can continue tomorrow?
It's waaaay past my bedtime!

Goodnight, Soron.

 

[Soron]

Something very special... I like the way you said that.


Perhaps we can continue tomorrow?
It's waaaay past my bedtime!

Goodnight, Soron.

goodnight, miss Arden
sweet and kinky dreams

 

[MissTaken]

I wanted to add that for me, to be masturbating while on the phone with someone requires the promise of an emotional attachment and meeting.

To masturbate, phone fuck someone just for the sake of getting off versus phone sex (dare I say intimacy or phone love) with someone special is the difference between fucking and making love in real life.

Fucking, all by itself gets one's rocks off, but doesn't do much for the soul.

Aren't orgasms usually better with someone you care for?

IN summation, for me, intimacy on the phone, achieving the great "mind fuck", is something I only engage with with someone special and that may be what makes it special. The headspace we are discussing isn't possible for me with a friend or acquaintance.