The Libertarian world without regulations EXPLODES IN TEXAS'S FACE. Literally.

[4est_4est_Gump]

The Over-the-Rainbow Coalition is warming up for another tilt at reason...



( 4 Dem...)

 

[mercury14]

And I'm saying is that you are using circular logic to prove your desire for more regulation. I have few apples, so I should have more apples is not a valid argument.

The industry is regulated, licensed and monitored. Sadly not well enough, for many reasons.

That the regulations are not comprehensive does not make the industry unregulated - you can always find one more thing to make a law about and it is easier after an accident to learn where laws can be strengthened than before.

It is a known risk that mental health patients might harm others, we should have regulations preventing this - the mental health field is unregulated.

I didn't day oil drilling was unregulated though.

1) General: Deep water oil drillers were (are?) not required to have the capability to deal with a rupture on the ocean floor. They choose not to invest in that technology probably because their actuarial cost-benefit analysis tells them that it's worth it to take the risk so the Horizon well didn't have it.

2) Event: When a deep water rift eventually occurred it was a monumental problem because there was no way to address it.

3) Conclusion: If the deep water driller had the resources to address deep water problems, the event would have been much smaller.


That's called inductive reasoning and it's not circular at all.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

... truly gone fishing...

 

[mercury14]

Classic kbate...reinterpreting her opponent's thesis and then attacking "their" position.

Yeah, I never said what she's claiming. Lack of regulation isn't proof that we need more regulation - but events that illustrate regulatory insufficiency may be evidence that regulations should be updated.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

... there must have been a door there in the wall when you came in...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Bryant launched Pinup Panini in October, serving up hot, made-to-order meals in competition with a fleet of trucks where success comes from a combination of expedient service and culinary creativity. But D.C.’s food trucks have also found themselves hampered by the city’s proposed regulations over their industry. Mayor Vince Gray first proposed regulations last year; since then, the proposed rules have gone through three extensive makeovers.

The most recent version of proposed regulations, published last month, would establish 23 mobile vending zones around the city. But those zones could only be accessed by vendors who win a lottery for one of the spaces; both the lottery and the spaces come with fees.

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But already some the owners of food trucks might be eyeing different territory where they might not have to face such burdensome rules. Arlington officials are also deliberating food truck regulations, and those proposed rules would actually open up the areas and lengths of time food truck could operate.

Fans of Pinup Panini, though, are out of luck. In subsequent tweets, Bryant wrote that she planned out two years to become profitable, but she “just can’t afford the war on trucks.”

Bryant also isn’t the first food truck owner to shut down her business over the threat of difficult regulations. Last month, Brian Farrell, the owner of the Italian food truck Basil Thyme, told Washington City Paper he was quitting, saying the proposed regulations would make the already difficult food truck business too burdensome to be find any success.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/...already-killing-food-truck-businesses-in-d-c/

 

[RobDownSouth]

I didn't day oil drilling was unregulated though.

1) General: Deep water oil drillers were (are?) not required to have the capability to deal with a rupture on the ocean floor. They choose not to invest in that technology probably because their actuarial cost-benefit analysis tells them that it's worth it to take the risk so the Horizon well didn't have it.

2) Event: When a deep water rift eventually occurred it was a monumental problem because there was no way to address it.

3) Conclusion: If the deep water driller had the resources to address deep water problems, the event would have been much smaller.


That's called inductive reasoning and it's not circular at all.

A bit of clarification:

BP did invest in a 40-foot tall blowout preventer, in accordance with regulations published 20 years ago. It was old, single-shear technology. The world has changed a lot since then.

The preventer was powered by a big-ass battery, which was due to be replaced in 2007. It was not replaced, despite numerous notifications to BP.

The well blew in 2010 and the preventer failed for lack of power. That's negligence.

Even if the preventer had been powered, it's unlikely that it would have worked, since the fracture was the (increasingly common) type that required two-shear technology to stop.

New regulations....which the Nutty Professor deems unnecessary....are being formulated to require two shears.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/19677929ac87b16a2ad086bd21124a75/tumblr_mlt62gGKEo1s1l6hco1_500.jpg

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Which regulations prevent arson again?

 

[ryan8558]

Which regulations prevent arson again?

None actually.

But it would've been nice if the fire department knew what was in the building.

 

[doowdniw]

None actually.

But it would've been nice if the fire department knew what was in the building.

Sure, but if your answering a call at a fertilizer plant, it's a pretty safe bet there may be some ammonium nitrate about.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

When common sense can no longer be applied, the government regulation is the call of the delusional...