Texas Electricity.

[domroger]

Over a million users lost power due to Hurricane Beryl.
Isn't it about time the Greg Abbott shit show did something about the grid?

 

[Escierto]

Everyone in Texas only cares about transgender girls playing girls sports and using the women's restroom. No one cares about anything else. It's a Third World place anyway!

 

[HisArpy]

Abbott needs to stop playing footsie with big money interests and start being governor.

For example; we can pump oil sand from Canada all the way down to the Gulf (or we could if Biden hadn't stopped the Keystone Pipeline) but Texas can't figure out how to pump water from the eastern half of the state to the western half of the state in order to control flooding in the eastern half.

Speaking of water; midwest states could do the same to control their flooding. Impound and pump over/through the Rockies to the headwaters of the Colorado River as well as across the desert to Mono Lake and then up into Hetch Hetchy reservoir. There'd be enough excess water in the Colorado to refill the Salton sea for migratory birds and help the Sacramento delta. The Great Salt Lake could get some too.

But all of that requires people with vision instead of glad handing for power and money.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Abbott needs to stop playing footsie with big money interests and start being governor.

For example; we can pump oil sand from Canada all the way down to the Gulf (or we could if Biden hadn't stopped the Keystone Pipeline) but Texas can't figure out how to pump water from the eastern half of the state to the western half of the state in order to control flooding in the eastern half.

Speaking of water; midwest states could do the same to control their flooding. Impound and pump over/through the Rockies to the headwaters of the Colorado River as well as across the desert to Mono Lake and then up into Hetch Hetchy reservoir. There'd be enough excess water in the Colorado to refill the Salton sea for migratory birds and help the Sacramento delta. The Great Salt Lake could get some too.

Yeah, no.

The people living in deserts and desert-ish places made their free-market choices. The government has no business spending trillions to pump water to arid regions. Are you some kind of commie?!?

 

[jaF0]

Over a million users lost power due to Hurricane Beryl.
Isn't it about time the Greg Abbott shit show did something about the grid?

Ike took out power in a dozen states or more, for over a week in many places. I was down for close to 10 days.

Similar tales are out there for most Tropical Systems that come inland.

What storms do is not political.

 

[Bray123]

Texas kept their power grid separate from the other states so as to be ready for the next time they try to secede.

No, I'm not making that up.

 

[Bn2f]

Over a million users lost power due to Hurricane Beryl.
Isn't it about time the Greg Abbott shit show did something about the grid?

All I’m hearing you say is RESORT TRIP, CANCUN!

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Abbott needs to stop playing footsie with big money interests and start being governor.

For example; we can pump oil sand from Canada all the way down to the Gulf (or we could if Biden hadn't stopped the Keystone Pipeline) but Texas can't figure out how to pump water from the eastern half of the state to the western half of the state in order to control flooding in the eastern half.

Speaking of water; midwest states could do the same to control their flooding. Impound and pump over/through the Rockies to the headwaters of the Colorado River as well as across the desert to Mono Lake and then up into Hetch Hetchy reservoir. There'd be enough excess water in the Colorado to refill the Salton sea for migratory birds and help the Sacramento delta. The Great Salt Lake could get some too.

But all of that requires people with vision instead of glad handing for power and money.

I can't remember. Doesn't Carbon Water work best for pumping like that, over those great distances?

 

[jaF0]

The entire grid was set up wrong to begin with. It's a hodgepodge of individual systems with no overall planning. I live near a hydro source, but that power doesn't get used here. It gets sent hundreds of miles away. Our power comes from somewhere else burning NG.


I'd rather see a honeycomb arrangement where power gets used with about 200 miles (or less) of the point of generation. Each cell would normally be self sufficient and controlled. In a failure of the generation source(s) of any one cell, the next/connected cells would supply power temporarily, until the generation point(s) can be restored.

Control and regulation would be under DOE, DOC, DHS and DOD as power is an essential service for public safety and medical and defense needs. State governments would not be involved.

 

[HisArpy]

Yeah, no.

The people living in deserts and desert-ish places made their free-market choices. The government has no business spending trillions to pump water to arid regions. Are you some kind of commie?!?

Maybe you might wanna change pumping water to shipping goods by railroad and see how it changes your perspective.

 

[HisArpy]

I can't remember. Doesn't Carbon Water work best for pumping like that, over those great distances?

Carbon, like chocolate syrup in milk, settles out. It's best to get it fresh bottled so you know it's pure.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Maybe you might wanna change pumping water to shipping goods by railroad and see how it changes your perspective.

The two things are not related. Are you suggesting that water should be moved across country by train?

Face it, your commie suggestion for the government to spend trillions to build water pipelines across the nation is a dumb idea. In fact, Communist China built pipelines for exactly that purpose, and achieved predictably disastrous results. You commies need to give up on this idea.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Carbon, like chocolate syrup in milk, settles out. It's best to get it fresh bottled so you know it's pure.

 

[Escierto]

I have been in Colombia and I have been in Texas. The Colombian power grid is more reliable than this Third World shit show. If the ground gets wet in Houston the power is out for a week! Every year I live here it becomes more like Mexico - and not in a good way!

 

[HisArpy]

The two things are not related. Are you suggesting that water should be moved across country by train?

Face it, your commie suggestion for the government to spend trillions to build water pipelines across the nation is a dumb idea. In fact, Communist China built pipelines for exactly that purpose, and achieved predictably disastrous results. You commies need to give up on this idea.

It becomes obvious that you intentionally act stupid in order to somehow believe you're smarter than you really are.

Very similar to the way luk acts.

 

[Lazaran]

Yeah, no.

The people living in deserts and desert-ish places made their free-market choices. The government has no business spending trillions to pump water to arid regions. Are you some kind of commie?!?

Well there is that ^ to consider, but also the FACT that you can’t just pump MASSIVE AMOUNTS of untreated water from one area to another.



Does Derpy have any idea about the cost s and logistical challenges associated with what they are suggesting???



Derpy

 

[butters]

Does Derpy have any idea?

fypyw

 

[jaF0]

Well there is that ^ to consider, but also the FACT that you can’t just pump MASSIVE AMOUNTS of untreated water from one area to another.

Folks would do well to do at least a minimal level of searches:



"The United States' aqueducts are some of the world's largest. The Catskill Aqueduct carries water to New York City over a distance of 120 miles (190 km), but is dwarfed by aqueducts in the far west of the country, most notably the 242-mile (389-km) Colorado River Aqueduct, which supplies the Los Angeles area with water from the Colorado River nearly 250 miles to the east and the 701.5-mile (1,129.0 km) California Aqueduct, which runs from the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta to Lake Perris. The Central Arizona Project is the largest and most expensive aqueduct constructed in the United States. It stretches 336 miles from its source near Parker, Arizona to the metropolitan areas of Phoenix and Tucson."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqueduct_(water_supply)



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[Lazaran]

Folks would do well to do at least a minimal level of searches:



"The United States' aqueducts are some of the world's largest. The Catskill Aqueduct carries water to New York City over a distance of 120 miles (190 km), but is dwarfed by aqueducts in the far west of the country, most notably the 242-mile (389-km) Colorado River Aqueduct, which supplies the Los Angeles area with water from the Colorado River nearly 250 miles to the east and the 701.5-mile (1,129.0 km) California Aqueduct, which runs from the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta to Lake Perris. The Central Arizona Project is the largest and most expensive aqueduct constructed in the United States. It stretches 336 miles from its source near Parker, Arizona to the metropolitan areas of Phoenix and Tucson."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqueduct_(water_supply)



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Cherries to Watermelons jaF0.

What Derpy is / was suggesting is NOTHING like the examples you provided.

Educate yourself.

 

[HisArpy]

Folks would do well to do at least a minimal level of searches:



"The United States' aqueducts are some of the world's largest. The Catskill Aqueduct carries water to New York City over a distance of 120 miles (190 km), but is dwarfed by aqueducts in the far west of the country, most notably the 242-mile (389-km) Colorado River Aqueduct, which supplies the Los Angeles area with water from the Colorado River nearly 250 miles to the east and the 701.5-mile (1,129.0 km) California Aqueduct, which runs from the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta to Lake Perris. The Central Arizona Project is the largest and most expensive aqueduct constructed in the United States. It stretches 336 miles from its source near Parker, Arizona to the metropolitan areas of Phoenix and Tucson."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqueduct_(water_supply)



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And yet not one in Texas from east to west. Nor one from the midwest westward.

It makes one wonder WTF those state governors are doing in between seasonal floods.

 

[Lazaran]

And yet not one in Texas from east to west. Nor one from the midwest westward.

It makes one wonder WTF those state governors are doing in between seasonal floods.

Seriously ignorant dumbfucks (like Derpy) obviously don’t understand how GRAVITY and ELEVATION come into play when relocating MASSIVE amounts of water.



Seriously ignorant dumbfucks (like Derpy) obviously don’t understand the difference between snowmelt / natural runoff from sparsely populated areas and POLLUTED flood water from heavily populated areas.



Seriously ignorant dumbfucks (like Derpy) obviously don’t understand the level of treatment that MASSIVE amounts of POLLUTED flood water from those heavily populated areas would require, nor the infrastructure required for said treatment. (Not to mention the infrastructure for PUMPING THE WATER through pipelines - because, again, GRAVITY and ELEVATION - and the infrastructure for CHANNELING that MASSIVE amount of water to reservoirs from which it could be PUMPED.)



Derpy

 

[RobDownSouth]

welp, another day another hurricane here in Houston.

This one was by far the fastest moving hurricane I've ever seen. Hit landfall and reached Houston about 5:30 a.m. local time, first intense rain, then intense-ish winds (gusts to 80mph), then the Abbott Power Grid shit the bed promptly at 6:05 a.m.

Power was finally restored about 20 minutes ago. Sun came out around 4 pm and it got very hot and very humid with no air conditioning. I can see now why Texas population didn't grow until AC was commonly available.

Lots of branches down but few trees.

And piping run-off east to west in Texas shows a complete ignorance of geography. Texas is one honking huge land mass, the interstate stretches 850 miles west to east. There is nothing of value travelling west bound past San Antonio until you reach El Paso. The land area of the city of Houston exceeds the land area of the state of Connecticut.

Houston drainage, for all the complaints about it, is world class. We flood early and often, but an 18 inches of standing water flash flood will successfully drain off in less than 2 hours. We have the enormous Addicks Satsuma reservoir to collect water run-off. It HAD a state-of-the-art 500-year flood plan that failed during a "500 year event" (Hurricane Harvey stalled over Houston for 48 hours) and the reservoir reached mass capacity. Corps of Engineers did what they needed to do and opened the floodgates to the emergency drainage area....but developers bribed Republican officials during the 60s through the 90s to develop McMansions on pristine flood water drainage land. Sucks to be those homeowners.

Everything drains into the Houston Shipping Channel which works 99% of the time....it fails now because the great fiction known as Climate Change has created "storm surge" that engineers in a kindler gentler less polluted time never envisioned, which causes the freshwater-to-saltwater flow to change to saltwater-to-freshwater backlash temporarily.

Governor Greg "Hotwheels Hitler" Abbott is working tirelessly to get an alternative "Stoopid Engineers! NOBODY could have known!" narrative taught in all levels of Texas schools, but even Abbott isn't foolish enough to push a goofy "east west aquaduct".

 

[coati]

The so-called free market ain't free, and it ain't effective, so Texas is now reaping the Curse of Enron. Hot Wheels is expecting the Invisible Hand of the corporate lobbyists to solve all problems.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The so-called free market ain't free, and it ain't effective, so Texas is now reaping the Curse of Enron. Hot Wheels is expecting the Invisible Hand of the corporate lobbyists to solve all problems.

Power competition is cutthroat. New equipment must be amortized over a number of years. "Repaired" equipment can be expensed in the current year and increases "shareholder value". Power companies still use 486 computers.

 

[HisArpy]

Seriously ignorant dumbfucks (like Derpy) obviously don’t understand how GRAVITY and ELEVATION come into play when relocating MASSIVE amounts of water.



Seriously ignorant dumbfucks (like Derpy) obviously don’t understand the difference between snowmelt / natural runoff from sparsely populated areas and POLLUTED flood water from heavily populated areas.



Seriously ignorant dumbfucks (like Derpy) obviously don’t understand the level of treatment that MASSIVE amounts of POLLUTED flood water from those heavily populated areas would require, nor the infrastructure required for said treatment. (Not to mention the infrastructure for PUMPING THE WATER through pipelines - because, again, GRAVITY and ELEVATION - and the infrastructure for CHANNELING that MASSIVE amount of water to reservoirs from which it could be PUMPED.)



Derpy

Some people don't understand the words "jobs" and "infrastructure."