Southern ?

scrymettet

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Belle,hospitality,men.... I 'am wondering why is it so special when associate with southern ? I know all the words but I don't grok.
Can you explain ?
 
scrymettet said:
Belle,hospitality,men.... I 'am wondering why is it so special when associate with southern ? I know all the words but I don't grok.
Can you explain ?


???????

Can someone translate this for me? Grok? WTF?










WTF=What the fuck? Military term, and Geek term


edited to please the lovely lady
 
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wtf isn't just a military term... it's also a geek term


grok is from the book A Stranger in a Strange Land. it is an alien word that has tons of meanings in the book.

[edited to add: it means understand in this context, a common usage in the book]
 
GROK??!!?

is this a time warp? havent heard GROK for a couple decades. (in general parlance, means "understand".)

I dont grok why anyone would start a thread like this....

listen to Neil Young"s "Southern Man",
take some sedatives, call me in the morning....that'll be $15 co-pay
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scrymettet said:
Belle,hospitality,men.... I 'am wondering why is it so special when associate with southern ? I know all the words but I don't grok.
Can you explain ?

Being southern is not just a way to describe yourself,its a way of life.

I am southern,which means that I live in the Southern part if the US,but not only that,down here you are raised a certain way and sometimes,and this is where I get into trouble,you expect others to have been raised in the same manner.

Being polite and having manners isnt something that I take lightly. I think that being rude is horrible and I will try just about anything to avoid being in situations that call for acting that way.

I think that being southern is something to be proud of,although the redneck jokes get old after awhile.
 
lovetoread-

the style of southern elegance and civility you are refering to is impossible to fully explain to anyone who was not raised in that environment, wouldnt you say? To a degree, it is a state of mind, and cannot be faked.
There are unspoken "rules of behavior"
and codes of ethics that, for the most part, cannot be adequately put into words.

now, the redneck element is self-
explanatory, but the hell with them
 
I believe that trying to explain that to another american is true,but scrymettet is from another country and wasnt understanding the southern title.
 
Re: Re: Southern ?

lovetoread said:


Being southern is not just a way to describe yourself,its a way of life.

I am southern,which means that I live in the Southern part if the US,but not only that,down here you are raised a certain way and sometimes,and this is where I get into trouble,you expect others to have been raised in the same manner.

Being polite and having manners isnt something that I take lightly. I think that being rude is horrible and I will try just about anything to avoid being in situations that call for acting that way.

I think that being southern is something to be proud of,although the redneck jokes get old after awhile.


Being raised to be polite and treat people with respect is NOT a southern phenomenon, and it kind of irritates me when people imply this. I interact with everyone I meet politely, and with respect (unless I am at the football game and you are wearing the other team's colors, then you get boo'd). I am from Michigan, and this is how my parents raised me. Guess what, most of my friends were raised this way to.
 
Being from the Midwest ..I agree with STP :) I believe that respect and kindness are traits that most people are born with...and with the right culivation (AKA Parents) it florishes into an almost subconscious personality trait and way of life...regardless of the geographic location.
 
With all the negative stereotypes of Southerners at least let us keep Southern hospitality as a virtue. That, and prettier women.
 
Jumping into the fray..

As with LTR - I am from the south, the southern portion of the state of Georgia to be exact. I have traveled over the United States extensively and will say that there is a difference in the way I was brought up to behave and what I have seen in other places.

Before I left high school I attended finishing school for 6 months. I was taught the proper way to ascend and descend a staircase, how to get into and out of a vehicle without spreading my legs, how to pour tea, and many other things that to many seem outdated but for a southern belle it is just our way.

I would never dream of entering a building ahead of a person older than myself and will hold the door for them as well, I address everyone as ma'am or sir regardless of what my response is, the way that things reflect back on your family is an ingrained thing here and family honor is held very high. All told it is hard to explain, there is just something about the south.

Granted yes, manners are taught to children all over the world but there is a difference in the south. Maybe we are still stuck back in a time of civility and leaving your calling card when you come to visit or maybe its just that down here things are slower just like our speech. I don't know exactly what the difference is but I know that even now when I travel with my son you see the difference and he is only 4.

There is a popular saying down here - American by birth, Southern by the grace of God

Dawn

PS: None of this is mean to besmerch anyone from anywhere else it only reflects how I was raised and the person I became due to that. I have lived all over the U.S. but in the end I came back home - to the south.
 
I'm sorry, but I just have to disagree that people who are raised in the south are somehow more hospitable, or have these ingrained superior social graces, it is just a myth. They do have a different way of life, granted, but then again, what's to say that their way is the better way? Besides that, I have met southerners who were just plain assholes, and I have met people from my own hometown who are just plain assholes. I guess my point is that people relate to others the way the were taught to, be they from Mississippi, Ohio, Minnesota, South Carolina, or any other state, region, or country. But if you feel you need to hold on to these ideals to make yourself feel better, more power to you...


PS this is not directed at anyone in particular so please take no offense...I am just stating my opinions, based on my own life's experiences.
 
My ex husband is the perfect example that southern men are not all gentleman so you are correct STP - alot of it has to do with the way you are raised. I recall being told more than once that calling a lady ma'am was an insult and meant that she was old (this was during my time up north).

I am from the country - we are talking sticksville here and I believe that makes a diffference as well.

I really have no desire to argue the issue. I am comfortable with my heritage and with being a southern belle, I take pride in it. If being from the north generates the same response in you then I am very happy for you, although I would hope you would not describe yourself as a northern belle unless I can look up your skirt and check your bloomers.

Dawn
 
midwesterner by birth ...

But I've been an adopted 'southerner' now for a long, long time ... by the grace of my employers, anyway.

It's a mistake to think that southern gentility and hospitality are simply a matter of being kind and respectful and polite, of saying 'please' and 'thank you' or 'yes, ma'am' and 'no, ma'am'--even though southerners do, in my experience, say such things more often than midwesterners or easterners (never lived in the west, so I don't know about them). I don't know how to define it, and I'm not sure I'll ever completely understand it, but differences are palpable and ever-present.

It's also true that a lot of what southerners think makes them distinctive is, on one level, nonsense--like the midwest thinking of itself as the country's 'heartland' and all that rot. The Interstate system, television, and the corporate McDonald's-ization of the country have destroyed a lot of our regional cultures, after all.

~H~
 
Georgia Girl said:
My ex husband is the perfect example that southern men are not all gentleman so you are correct STP - alot of it has to do with the way you are raised. I recall being told more than once that calling a lady ma'am was an insult and meant that she was old (this was during my time up north).

I am from the country - we are talking sticksville here and I believe that makes a diffference as well.

I really have no desire to argue the issue. I am comfortable with my heritage and with being a southern belle, I take pride in it. If being from the north generates the same response in you then I am very happy for you, although I would hope you would not describe yourself as a northern belle unless I can look up your skirt and check your bloomers.

Dawn

LOL no, I don't see myself as a belle...but if you want to look in my boxers for proof, then by all means...feel free :D

The best way I can describe myself is simply a decent man. I'm not anyone special, just a guy who treats everyone the way I would like for them to treat me...
 
StondTmplPilot said:

LOL no, I don't see myself as a belle...but if you want to look in my boxers for proof, then by all means...feel free :D

You gonna send pics so that we may see? ;)

Granted there are decent people everwhere,thats not what I meant at all. But here,where I live,a very small town,there is just certain behavior that is expected. And that is all I meant.
 
lovetoread said:


You gonna send pics so that we may see? ;)

Granted there are decent people everwhere,thats not what I meant at all. But here,where I live,a very small town,there is just certain behavior that is expected. And that is all I meant.

If you go to the amateur pics board you can see all you want of me...
 
I went there and couldnt find you,even with search. Could you get me a link to it perhaps?
 
STP......you promised

and I am still waiting on that shot from the rear. How long do you intend to keep a lady waiting?

Dawn
 
StondTmplPilot said:


GG....Do you know how difficult it is to get my homophobic friends to take a picture of me bent over the pool table? I am trying honest!

STP, petunia....just bat your eyelashes and ask one of the ladies in the bar, promise her a copy and she will do it, no problem. Now get on with it, you have kept me waiting for quite some time now.

Dawn
 
I keep trying to write this little story

but the real world keeps interrupting.

About ten years ago, I was riding in a car from Orlando to New Orleans with a good friend who lived in Chicago. We were in his car with Illinois tags.

Early one February morning, on Interstate 10, just west of Pascagoula, Mississippi, we ran out of gas (just not paying attention). As my friend pulled over to the side of the freeway, he was cursing himself for his error, and asking me if I could remember how far it was back to the last exit.

I laughed and said, "just relax, you're in the south, someone will stop and give you a ride to the next exit." He didn't believe me, but as he opened his door and began to pull his jacket on, two cars pulled over right in front of us.

My friend got into a Mercedes because it was the nearest and first to stop. In ten minutes, he was back with a couple of gallons of gas in a can that the station "loaned" to him. The driver of the Mercedes had not only driven him to the station, but had waited and driven him back to his car. The driver also waited on the other side of the freeway until we were on our way again; then waived and drove off.

My friend was amazed. I'm a southerner, I wasn't.
 
Once when I was in high school I drove off the highway down to one of the large lakes in the area. Had my 17 year old girlfriend with me. It's been so long, I don't remember all the details, but I think I backed up into a hole when I was leaving. Was stuck big time, and didn't see any houses around for miles. About that time a beat up old pick up truck pulled up with 3 of the roughest looking HUGE guys I had ever seen. They looked like could have been rejected from the cast of Deliverance for being too redneck. They all got out and picked up the back of my car and moved it a couple of feet. Got back in their truck and left without saying a word.
 
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