Some really bad writers on here.

[champagne1982]

Pot, kettle, I think.

Maybe, I like to think my toys are in their toy box waiting for a child to play with now, though. Growing up didn't take long, just two heart surgeries and other tragedies. Life's too short to place all your money on one number. Let it roll ...

 

[Guest]

Maybe, I like to think my toys are in their toy box waiting for a child to play with now, though. Growing up didn't take long, just two heart surgeries and other tragedies. Life's too short to place all your money on one number. Let it roll ...

Exactly why I cut my losses and moved on.

 

[Weird Harold]

Many readers who are just looking for stroke don't care, though, Harold. They've here for the free porn, which is actually well-organized and separated into specific categories.

Grammar? Does it matter?

And I've come to the conclusion that many writers just don't know any better.

That is something that puzzles me: how does someone get off on a "stroke story" that is so poorly written that I have to break out of the "mood" and go into "translator mode" to decipher what the author is trying to say.

Point taken. We could all brush up on our communication skills.

You misspelled 2 words btw.

You are naughty.

TE, I have stupid fingers, so I often have typos in my posts -- spaces int he [sic] wrong place and don't worry too much about them in the forums when they don't impede communication greatly; not even in threads like these.

That is a far different proposition than putting my name (and "reputation") on a story filled with similar problems with the imlicit claim that "this is the best I can do."

 

[starrkers]

It is often even worse than being afraid that it's true -- I'm firmly convinced that it is true and can't understand why anyone would choose one of my stories for inclusion in an anthology and pay me for it.

I am however, also firmly convinced that I haven't embarassed myself with any of my submissions because they're as error free as I can make them and will defend the few remaining errors as "artistic license."

I'm not particularly bothered by bad sytlistic choices, like first-second POV, because I simple hit <back> for those stories.

What "bothers" me is the lack of personal pride suggested by the fact that gross technical errors don't seem to bother a lot of authors -- or a lot of readers.

That's a bother for me too - they don't know better and they don't care enough to find out.
But I think the thing that bothers me most is the ones that don't see any difference between error-ridden and error-free.

JBJ
Sorry for the delay replying - life called.
It's not a double standard. Would you accept a burial service from someone who can't competently wield a shovel (and don't say they don't exist, they sure as hell do)?
Or, perhaps more pertinently, would you allow someone to work on the electrical system in your house without checking their credentials? Would you take them totally at face value when they say they're a master tradesman or would you rather see their ticket and, preferably, speak to a few satisfied customers first?
I'm not going to take writing advice from someone who tells me ad nauseum they're a great writer when they're not prepared to offer proof.

 

[TE999]

You are naughty.

Hehehe. I'm a nice guy, but poke me and I bite.

 

[Guest]

Hehehe. I'm a nice guy, but poke me and I bite.

Did I poke you in Chicago?

I don't recall, but I know you never gave me a nip.

 

[Guest]

That is something that puzzles me: how does someone get off on a "stroke story" that is so poorly written that I have to break out of the "mood" and go into "translator mode" to decipher what the author is trying to say.

Oh, I very much agree.

It's very frustrating to be reading a story and have to stop for a second to figure out what in the hell they intend to say.

But I suppose true "stroke" officiandos don't care.

 

[cloudy]

Maybe, I like to think my toys are in their toy box waiting for a child to play with now, though. Growing up didn't take long, just two heart surgeries and other tragedies. Life's too short to place all your money on one number. Let it roll ...

dear, god, why are you so defensive?

I don't like it there because I found that many - not all - of the regular denizens are pretentious assholes with ego problems. I came here. I like it here, and that was many years ago.

Deal with it.

 

[TE999]

Did I poke you in Chicago?

I don't recall, but I know you never gave me a nip.

I couldn't work my way through the crowd of admirers.

I'd trade love bites with you anytime.

 

[Weird Harold]

That's a bother for me too - they don't know better and they don't care enough to find out.
But I think the thing that bothers me most is the ones that don't see any difference between error-ridden and error-free.

It bothers me more that some authors do see the difference and don't care how ignorant it looks.

I can deal with the ones who don't care enough to find out how to write technically better -- either by ignoring the bad storytellers or by ignoring the technical flaws (as much as possible) to enjoy a good story from a good storyteller; sometimes the technical flaws, intentional or not, are what make it a good story.

(the story of a rednecks demise simply wouldn't be funny if his last words were, "Please hold my champagne and observe this maneuver, " instead of "hold my beer and watch this shit.")

 

[champagne1982]

dear, god, why are you so defensive?

I don't like it there because I found that many - not all - of the regular denizens are pretentious assholes with ego problems. I came here. I like it here, and that was many years ago.

Deal with it.

Cloudy, I don't need to defend myself and I wasn't. I was merely closing an exchange I had with sarah. You can agree or disagree. I don't mind.

 

[Trombonus]

Me am want say caming to here was making writing for me much more gooder.

+1 FTW!!!

 

[TE999]

TE, I have stupid fingers, so I often have typos in my posts -- spaces int he [sic] wrong place and don't worry too much about them in the forums when they don't impede communication greatly; not even in threads like these.

That is a far different proposition than putting my name (and "reputation") on a story filled with similar problems with the imlicit claim that "this is the best I can do."

Just goofing on ya Harold.

My writing may not be up to everyone's standards, but I do try to correct my mistakes and stay reasonably coherent. Plus I am always finding ways to improve and take criticisim that is valid and consider it in regard to my future efforts.

 

[TE999]

Me am want say caming to here was making writing for me much more gooder.

+1 FTW!!!

It's all a big joke to you isn't it?

 

[Trombonus]

It's all a big joke to you isn't it?

Yes...Yes it is.

 

[TE999]

Yes...Yes it is.

Honestly it is to me too. Life's too short to sweat the small stuff...and some of the big stuff as well.

 

[Trombonus]

Honestly it is to me too. Life's too short to sweat the small stuff...and some of the big stuff as well.

Hell yes! You are indeed wise. A toast to you my friend!

 

[TE999]

Hell yes! You are indeed wise. A toast to you my friend!

Cool. This round's on me. Name yer pizen.

 

[Trombonus]

Cool. This round's on me. Name yer pizen.

How about a rum and coke...without the rum of course.

Though, if I have coke now I'll be up all night...

Maybe just some water then. Ice water of course.

 

[TE999]

How about a rum and coke...without the rum of course.

Though, if I have coke now I'll be up all night...

Maybe just some water then. Ice water of course.

Water's good for making a toast.

Just don't tell the champagne bottlers that.

 

[Vermilion]

If you actually looked at the intensity and quality of education available for free, right now America is at the best it's ever been. We expect ALL kids to know more content and have more basic skills than ever before.


We're the only country that expects a level of education from EVERYONE. It's not the quality of education that seems to hamper us, it's the goal. Remember we have a lofty, if noble, goal.

Um - excuse me? America is the only country in the world that provides education to all and expects everyone to be educated? The *only* country? In the world, or in your head? I think you'll find that most of Europe would disagree with that; certainly the UK, which started the idea of universal education and definitely Sweden which is known for it's excellent welfare - our very own Liar serves as an admirable example.

Be a little more cautious with your sweeping generalisations, yes? I realise that the majority of Americans have never and will never go outside their own country, but this doesn't mean that the rest of the world does not exist.

x
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[starrkers]

Um - excuse me? America is the only country in the world that provides education to all and expects everyone to be educated? The *only* country? In the world, or in your head? I think you'll find that most of Europe would disagree with that; certainly the UK, which started the idea of universal education and definitely Sweden which is known for it's excellent welfare - our very own Liar serves as an admirable example.

Be a little more cautious with your sweeping generalisations, yes? I realise that the majority of Americans have never and will never go outside their own country, but this doesn't mean that the rest of the world does not exist.

x
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Ooh, I missed that glorious little sweeping statement!

Add Australia and New Zealand to the list as well.

 

[CeriseNoire]

I don't think there are any artists as nasty, bitter, wildly competitive and screamingly jealous as writers. Even when we mean well and are genuinely happy for one another's successes, inside we still burn with rage and green-eyed envy. We're insanely hypersensitive, hypercritical egotists engaged in a lonely and difficult and generally neglected endeavor that has no reward but praise, and there's precious little of that to go around. So when someone floats by and yells out, "Eh, you guys suck!", it just drives us crazy, because we're of course afraid it's true.

I mostly agree with your take on the nature of writer. Frankly, I have no issue with not being very pleasant to people who come here out of the blue and introduce themselves by being less than polite. If someone walked into my house, tasted the dog food, then exclaimed, "Gee, Cerise, your family has no taste!" I certainly would be less than nice.

My post was in fact off-topic I wasn't referring to the thread starter's situation. I was saying that the some of the things people complained of about the Poets were not things AHers never do. Sarah was kind enough to clarify that her displeasure went deeper than that.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Rocket Man

Ooh, I missed that glorious little sweeping statement!

Add Australia and New Zealand to the list as well.

While we are sweeping.... "universal education" is hardly synonymous with "Western Democracy"..... it has been a hallmark of almost all the major "communist" governments in the past and current. They tended to have higher levels of literacy than thier analogous "Democratic" neighbors.

At least on a National level, perhaps writing well grammatically or even writing coherently is not as important as what it is you are writing about.

-KC

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

STARRKERS

Youre wise to be skeptical because frauds are everywhere.

Anyone can post anything here, and if their story is obscure enough they can perpetrate a hoax using material someone else wrote. I've worked for a few people who had bogus diplomas. I ghost write for people. It's difficult to know who and what is real.

My girlfriend is a professional writer. She writes two newspaper columns. She says that anyone who can read can write, because reading teaches you how to write.

I'm not a medical doctor but I give plenty of medical advioe that works in a pinch. Like, my GF had a papercut on a finger. I suggested she swab it with ambisol, the coldsore analgesic, to kill the sting. It worked. Lysol and hot water stops athletes foot pain/itch instantly. The body uses histamine to transmit pain signals to the brain. Consequently, an antihistamine allergy pill (benadryl) will reduce the pain because it blocks the histamine....and it works well as a sleeping pill.

Sometimes all you need do is give the advice a try, to determine if the remedy is any good.