Proof of STD free status. Ask for it.

[Guest]

Torty!

 

[Lasz]

bah what is a little herepes, aids, or syphalus going to do to you? I mean come on its just a little rash, not like you really need that immune system anyways. Jeeze you people overreact way too much.

J/K
Laz

 

[celiaKitten]

...but it's also pretty unromantic to die, or end up with a lifelong rash.

exactly .. I'm too young to die, and a lifelong rash sounds like a hell I'd rather avoid, thanks.

 

[tortoise]

Re: Torty!

Whatcha doin' up so late, buster?

I saw the cutest AV of a turtle wiggling on his back yesterday...

Did you come to its rescue, or just let the poor blighter suffer?



Tis only 10:30 hereabouts. Nevertheless, I am getting all yawny-like.

Nighty night, Anniekins.

 

[HighSchoolJock]

Scotty always double bags his shit cause theres some skanky bitches at this school i even use two condoms when im plowing a virgin cause you never know how much cock that bitch has sucked i was a boyscuot so im always prepared oh yeah SCOTTY RULLLLLLLLLLEZZZ

 

[superlittlegirl]

OK, this is time for the "let's not stigmatize herpes carriers" speech.

Yes, I am glad I don't have it. Yes, it is one of my most intense phobias.

But.

It is controllable, with medication and/or diet. Studies have been done that show that 1000mg of l-lysine per day can prevent breakouts from occurring in most sufferers. There are also pharmaceutical meds available. It is not curable, but it is very suppressible. It's not as physically damaging as many other STDs like chlamydia or syphilis. It causes discomfort, not reproductive damage. It is unsightly, but not something that should be as widely stigmatized as it is.

Do I want to know if my partner is a carrier, even if it is dormant? YES. I need to make the informed decision myself, as to whether that's a risk I'd like to take. But the tone of derision that people take about it is a little disturbing. It is born of fear, yes, but fear is something that can be supplemented (and eased) with information.

 

[superlittlegirl]

Scotty, you need to know that double bagging is dangerous. Heat and friction can build up between the two condoms, causing an increased possibility of breakage. One is plenty, cutie.

Scotty always double bags his shit cause theres some skanky bitches at this school i even use two condoms when im plowing a virgin cause you never know how much cock that bitch has sucked i was a boyscuot so im always prepared oh yeah SCOTTY RULLLLLLLLLLEZZZ

 

[Never]

superlittlegirl:
"It actually says a lot about the commitment level of a couple if they are able to discuss such matters without shame.


Thoughts? Comments?"

Not everyone who wants to have sex wants to be part of a couple or have any serious commitment level.

 

[ridddder]

i even use two condoms when im plowing a virgin

Gee like double socks, but seriously....how the fuck do you feel shit with two raincoats?

Hard to keep your shit up, if all your feel is just warmth...try sticking your wang in a bucket of warm water, and seeing if your tent stands proud for a whole minute without a cock ring.

Shit.......I like to think it is a mutual decision, sure I've had those fucking tests....my personal favorite is when they jam a fuckng q-tip up your fuck stick.....nothing like hurting for days.....

If in doubt you wrap your whacker, and do the whole safe sex shit.....If you get serious....then you have the talk....and no I don't feel it is out of line to ask, but I see the girl saying fuck, if you don't trust me you won't fuck this crack ....ever.....but yeah I know if she says that....then you walk....but man that is rough......

 

[Private Vasquez]

I'm partial to the laundry method, myself.

You smell good, you must be clean.

 

[RastaPope]

superlittlegirl:
"It actually says a lot about the commitment level of a couple if they are able to discuss such matters without shame.


Thoughts? Comments?"

Not everyone who wants to have sex wants to be part of a couple or have any serious commitment level.

Then they should be put in something akin to a leper colony once they pick up a disease.

 

[Never]

RastaPope:
"Then they should be put in something akin to a leper colony once they pick up a disease."

In the case of AIDS, they sometimes are.

 

[superlittlegirl]

Had you read the entire thread before posting, you'd see that I qualified it in the context of monogamy, and made a reverent nod toward non-monogamy. I do not agree with monogamy, or the necessity of pair bonding in theory, but if I am to have fluid bonded sex, it's the only way for me.

superlittlegirl:
"It actually says a lot about the commitment level of a couple if they are able to discuss such matters without shame.


Thoughts? Comments?"

Not everyone who wants to have sex wants to be part of a couple or have any serious commitment level.

 

[RastaPope]

RastaPope:
"Then they should be put in something akin to a leper colony once they pick up a disease."

In the case of AIDS, they sometimes are.

Them's the breaks.

 

[Never]

superlittlegirl
"Had you read the entire thread before posting..."

I did.
People won't find us now because, Mr. Satch and Mr. Cros...

 

[RastaPope]

superlittlegirl
"Had you read the entire thread before posting..."

I did.
People won't find us now because, Mr. Satch and Mr. Cros...

I think I speak for the rest of the class when I say "gwa-foo?"

 

[HeavyStick]

If I trusted the person well enough to want to share intimate space with them, I would trust them to be honest about how recently they were tested and what the results were.

I wouldn't have to see the lab results, but I'd ask the questions.

hugs to you darling.

 

[Never]

RasiaPope:"I think I speak for the rest of the class when I say "gwa-foo?"

I did read the entire thread.

The second line was from a Louis Armstrong song called 'Gone Fishin'. It begins with Bing Crosby chastising Lewy for slacking off when he should have been doing his job.

I'll tell you why I can't find you
Every time I go out to your place...

You gone fishin' (well how you know)
Well there's a sign upon your door (uh-huh)
Gone fishin' (I'm real gone man)
You ain't workin' anymore (could be)
There's your hoe out in the sun
Where you left a row half done
You claim that hoein' ain't no fun (well I can prove it)
You ain't got no ambition

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Nothing at all wrong with asking for STD testing...you can trust someone completely, but even the most honest person doesn't reveal everything about their past.

"Safe Sex" all the way.

 

[HighSchoolJock]

OK, this is time for the "let's not stigmatize herpes carriers" speech.

Yes, I am glad I don't have it. Yes, it is one of my most intense phobias.

But.

It is controllable, with medication and/or diet. Studies have been done that show that 1000mg of l-lysine per day can prevent breakouts from occurring in most sufferers. There are also pharmaceutical meds available. It is not curable, but it is very suppressible. It's not as physically damaging as many other STDs like chlamydia or syphilis. It causes discomfort, not reproductive damage. It is unsightly, but not something that should be as widely stigmatized as it is.

hell no i dont buy that lysine crap just look what happened in jurassic park they made those dinosaurs lysine defcient but they stopped giving them lysine and the dinosaurs kept on living its all bullshit

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

proof? some STD's do not show up for a couple of days,

Days? Many STDs, including some of the really deadly ones such as HIV, don't show up in current tests for weeks or even months. Yet you can still be quite infectious during that time. Take it from someone who used to work for one of the leading companies who developed these tests.

Given that, and other factors, there is no such thing as "proof" of being free of an STD by using a test. You must also know the person's sexual history. If you are going to have sex with someone who has high risk factors (e.g., had sex with a prostitute in Africa, is an introvenous illicit drug user, etc.) yet tests clean, think twice before thinking you have proof that he is "clean".

 

[superlittlegirl]

Eh. The solution to that is easy. Just don't fuck girls that look like dinosaurs.

hell no i dont buy that lysine crap just look what happened in jurassic park they made those dinosaurs lysine defcient but they stopped giving them lysine and the dinosaurs kept on living its all bullshit

 

[PacificBlue]

Asking for paperwork is incredibly difficult. Just having the STD talk is difficult.

Dating isn't easy anymore.

While I think having the talk and getting tested together is important, most people don't wait 3-6 months before engaging in some type of sex with each other. Also, a "standard" STD test doesn't cover all STD's. You have to specifically ask for which ones you want to be tested for and/or ask which ones you are being tested for AND some tests are better than others at picking up the little antibodies.

Knowing your partner takes time, time, time. I thing most people are on their best behavior for quite a while in the beginning. It is difficult to find someone who is willing to wait to have sex until feelings have cemented themselves.

 

[christophe]

and it is unfortunate that there are other STD's that may not be readily apparent, or treatable for that matter

clamidia
gonnorhea
syphyllis
these are all treatable with anitbiotics

hepres
no cure only anti viral drugs to keep it quiescent

genital warts(condyloma) no cure or in many cases any way of knowing stats 25 % of the populus carries it

hiv/aids...ENOUGH SAID

now the even more difficult ones are the hepatitis family....
hepatitis A not that common
hepatits b..vaccine available for
hepatits c no cure on the rise and it can be rather nasty if not fatal...

having a talk is fine and dandy....but there is still not much in the way to stop something you cant see!

 

[superlittlegirl]

You're absolutely right. I do not generally wait 3 months before having sex with a new partner. I do not have unprotected sex, though, during a preliminary period in a relationship. Fluid-bonded sex is a huge step, and not one I tend to take lightly.

Having the STD talk really isn't that difficult, though. Perhaps I'm just an open person in general, or perhaps I have gotten over the discomfort. It isn't something that implies a person is dirty if you ask, or something that implies mistrust. It's just a question of safety.

And, if you go to Planned Parenthood and ask for a "full battery" of STD tests, they will take a blood sample and also do a culture. They test for the full spectrum of possibilities.

Asking for paperwork is incredibly difficult. Just having the STD talk is difficult.

Dating isn't easy anymore.

While I think having the talk and getting tested together is important, most people don't wait 3-6 months before engaging in some type of sex with each other. Also, a "standard" STD test doesn't cover all STD's. You have to specifically ask for which ones you want to be tested for and/or ask which ones you are being tested for AND some tests are better than others at picking up the little antibodies.

Knowing your partner takes time, time, time. I thing most people are on their best behavior for quite a while in the beginning. It is difficult to find someone who is willing to wait to have sex until feelings have cemented themselves.