Porn movies: Does a plot make it hot?

[Roxanne Appleby]

The following are some posts from a web site devoted to lesbian porn. The question applies to all porn, though.

I don't much care for a plot in a porn movie. I find that they are never convincing and a waste of time. I always ff past the dialogue. Even if they were convincing I don't know if it would make the scene more erotic. How much do I need to know?

What I do like is atmosphere. I don't really need to know specifics to get a good feeling from a scene. In other words, women who seem to like each other and what they're doing, a pleasent location, good lighting and clean, straightforward camerawork matter much more to me than, "I just broke up with my boyfriend..."
"Have you ever been with a girl...?"

Some of the best scenes I've seen have no plot at all some even just start with the action, usually a no-no.

I do enjoy some plot when it's an older/younger scenario . . .

I enjoy a good plot set-up. No, it doesn't have to be overly intricate, but I've found that some kind of a scenario/set-up can almost always make an otherwise so-so scene a whole lot more erotic and enjoyable to watch, especially those involving seductions.

Let me throw a curve in here: What if the plot were a real potboiler, filled with intrigue, blackmail, seduction, exploitation, etc., interspersed with the "usual" jolly or passionate romps in the hay? The "L-Word" has tended toward this in some instances. It is not explicit but it does show sex, and some scenes are red hot. What if an explicit film did the same?

I would draw a distinction between set-up and plot--plot meaning story, something that carries through the entire picture. I don't believe that a porn movie needs a full-blown story to be arousing, but I do think that set-ups for scenes are preferrable--where the women or girls that we are watching actually have a personality, and a reason to be engaged with each other.

 

[Aurora Black]

Plot accentuates the action for me.

 

[Guest]

Honestly? I don't watch porn for the plot.

 

[soccergrrl]

It depends on what I'm in the mood for. Mostly, I like just the compilations of whatever style of sex I'm in the mood for. The ones with plot are fine, but nowadays, they're more novelties like the musicial remake of The Opening of Misty Beethoven or the 'High-Tech'; effects of films like 'Pirates.'

My two cents. Spend where you wish.

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

For me, the brain is the biggest turn on, so anythign that can make me think sexy, be it plot or imagery or music or what have you. Porn is good but intellectual porn is better!

 

[Liar]

For porn movies:
If it's an ok plot. Which it almost never is.
If it's ok acted and directed. Which it almost never is.
If the plot doesn't take too much tempo from the sex. Which it almost always does.

For written smut:
If it's a better than ok plot. Which it sometimes is.
If it's well enough written. Which it occacionally is.
If the sex doesn't take too much tempo from the plot. Which sometimes happen.

 

[Skip1934a]

I find plots for porn movies shallow and poorly developed. So for movies, I'd just as soon see nothing but sex scenes. For written erotica, the plot is essential for me. I much prefer the erotica that a well written story brings.

 

[rachlou]

I have watched porn with and without a plot of sorts. It doesn't make any difference to my enjoyment of the film - that hinges on the action and the look of the performers. Generally I fast forward to the scenes I like and just watch snippets of fave films.

 

[rikaaim]

I think many have hit what the problem for me is with plot in a porn. It's poorly written, developed, and acted. I feel that if someone owns about five porn movies, they have all they need. More so if the movies are all of the same genre. There's nothing new to porn. The new volumes are the same as the old ones, only with different people. What's fun about seeing the same double penetration in a new movie, keeping in mind that you just had to pay another fifty bucks for it?

I would like to see a company make an honest attempt at an erotic and sexual plot based movie. I think the intrigue could make the sex better. It may end up being the same type of sex scene, but if the viewer is more psychologically drawn into the film and characters, wouldn't it make that same scene more captivating? I think it would.

I've recently started getting into the Artcore genre. Not because the sex is any better, but because each film focuses on one particular element. I viewed a film not too long ago based on mid-evil clothes and locations. The lighting in the film was great, as well as the camera work. They didn't zoom in strictly to show the cock going in, or her lips wrapped around him. Rather the showed the light beaming in through the ornate stained glass window onto her silky silohoutte as she rode him. Also the elaborate costumes of the characters is outstanding.

I enjoyed that film more than most because they did something different. They focused on this image of beauty and the sex was there among it.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

Sometimes the plot turns me on more than the sex. I love babysitter movies, and old/young seductions, and most of the Naughty America movies (office, university, neighbor, hot mom, sister's friend, and so on, and so forth). I enjoy a scenbe with a little setup so much more than the movies that just have a chick dancing around, or even worse when they walk into a room naked and just start screwing.

I also like clips that start with an interview. I like women that talk during sex, and when it's a conversation carrying over from before the sex, it just adds something for me.

A chick on the phone while getting screwed is also a great thing. I need to work that into more of my stories

 

[ungenderless]

Artcore? I've never heard of it, but it sounds like something I would be interested in. I get turned off by the things that porn focuses on, like close-ups & cum shots, etc.

I agree with what most people have said, to a degree. No to plot in porn, yes to plot in literature. Where my opinion differs has to do with what can be defined as "porn". For example, there are some lesbian scenes in the Queer As Folk series that I find just as arousing, if not moreso than regular porn. And I think that's because I care about the characters more.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

You have to look at the media. In video/films plot pretty much gets in the way. There are a few producers/directors who do something like "Chick Flicks" with plot. I find them boring for the most part. Typically, a popular video has a plot line of: Guy meets virgin - They fuck - She likes it and goes on to fuck the rest of the cast - both female and male. Now that's porn.

In print a total "stroke story" is boring simply due to the lack of plot. I think the reason is because video is a visual media. You don't have to visualize anything because it's done for you. In print the plot is the basis for the visualization and imagery.

 

[R. Richard]

In my opinion a plot in a porn movie needs to enable visual effects that would not be reasonable without the plot. A good porn movie plot should not overpower the porn, but should work with and enhance the porn. If a couple just comes into a room and screws, so what? There are lots of porn movies where that happens. Why should I buy another one? If there is some reason why the couple comes into the room and screws, it is more interesting.

As you may have guessed, I have written a porn movie script that uses plot to make reasonable visual effects that would not work without the plot.

 

[scheherazade_79]

It depends.

Ages and ages ago, the only porn movies I'd seen were the kind with no plot. I remember thinking it would be so cool to see a porno that had some kind of plot.

And then I saw one...

The acting was so awful I found myself wishing that they'd just forget about the storyline and get on with the fucking.

I've yet to see a porno (hardcore, at least) where the actors' skills extend beyond the bedroom scenes.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

It depends.

Ages and ages ago, the only porn movies I'd seen were the kind with no plot. I remember thinking it would be so cool to see a porno that had some kind of plot.

And then I saw one...

The acting was so awful I found myself wishing that they'd just forget about the storyline and get on with the fucking.

I've yet to see a porno (hardcore, at least) where the actors' skills extend beyond the bedroom scenes.

Are you implying Wendy Woppers can't act? LMAO

 

[scheherazade_79]

Are you implying Wendy Woppers can't act? LMAO

Who's Wendy Woppers? If her name's anything to go by, I'm not sure I'd be able to concentrate on her acting...

 

[TheEarl]

If I'm watching a film (which is a rarity in itself), then I'm watching it for Tab A into Slot B. A plot beyond "I've come to fix your pipes" would probably detract. I have stories for my plot needs.

The Earl

 

[Stella_Omega]

It depends.

Ages and ages ago, the only porn movies I'd seen were the kind with no plot. I remember thinking it would be so cool to see a porno that had some kind of plot.

And then I saw one...

The acting was so awful I found myself wishing that they'd just forget about the storyline and get on with the fucking.

I've yet to see a porno (hardcore, at least) where the actors' skills extend beyond the bedroom scenes.

What Scher said!
Plot?
Porn?
Oxymoron?

And Rikaaim is onto something with the artcore films- fetish porn is often much more satisfying because it has more impassioned workers...

 

[Skip1934a]

It depends.

Ages and ages ago, the only porn movies I'd seen were the kind with no plot. I remember thinking it would be so cool to see a porno that had some kind of plot.

And then I saw one...

The acting was so awful I found myself wishing that they'd just forget about the storyline and get on with the fucking.

I've yet to see a porno (hardcore, at least) where the actors' skills extend beyond the bedroom scenes.

The only female (and I don't much care about the males) that seems to me to have any ACTING skills is Asia Carrera, and she's retired now.

 

[R. Richard]

Who's Wendy Woppers? If her name's anything to go by, I'm not sure I'd be able to concentrate on her acting...

Wendy Whoppers is a porn star. If you try to watch her act, you are deluding yourself.

 

[R. Richard]

If I'm watching a film (which is a rarity in itself), then I'm watching it for Tab A into Slot B. A plot beyond "I've come to fix your pipes" would probably detract. I have stories for my plot needs.

The Earl

Let me give you an example. I have the same two people come into the same room, strip off and screw. I repeat the process five times. Boring as hell? No, the episodes are at the 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25 year high school reunions. The little bit of conversation, the clothes and hairstyles they wear for each episode and the techniqures they use change with each episode. The plot seems almost transparent, but it is critical to the film.

 

[TheEarl]

Let me give you an example. I have the same two people come into the same room, strip off and screw. I repeat the process five times. Boring as hell? No, the episodes are at the 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25 year high school reunions. The little bit of conversation, the clothes and hairstyles they wear for each episode and the techniqures they use change with each episode. The plot seems almost transparent, but it is critical to the film.

Okay, I'll admit that I could see that working.

The Earl

 

[scheherazade_79]

Wendy Whoppers is a porn star. If you try to watch her act, you are deluding yourself.

That might not matter. Has she got big tits?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Let me give you an example. I have the same two people come into the same room, strip off and screw. I repeat the process five times. Boring as hell? No, the episodes are at the 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25 year high school reunions. The little bit of conversation, the clothes and hairstyles they wear for each episode and the techniqures they use change with each episode. The plot seems almost transparent, but it is critical to the film.

I'd watch that one
I know! We can dress up and make a play! I'll borrow my father's barn...

 

[R. Richard]

That might not matter. Has she got big tits?

The word Whoppers is very descriptive!