No, really...

[tortoise]

Thank you once again for explaining the fucking situation. Is anyone still unclear about the situation? Christ. Do you think if I hear the details about the situation one more time that i will change my opinion of her?

My last comment on the situation:

Where words are concerned, intent is everything. By your own admission, you fully understand that she didn't intend to make a "sick joke about the dead", because she didn't know Artful was dead. Furthermore, you claim to fully understand that, had she known he was dead, she would have never made the comment.

Still, you cling to your judgement that she is an asshole. It's your prerogative, your opinion, and, by your own admission, you will never change it, no matter what.

We can live with that. You go your way, we'll go ours.

 

[Guest]

 

[glamorilla]

but lavvy~admit it was fun watcing lance jump around like an excited monkey.

 

[lavender]

but lavvy~admit it was fun watcing lance jump around like an excited monkey.

I'd rather see you jiggle your ass for me.

 

[Guest]

 

[glamorilla]

yeah..you and most people...

 

[Lancecastor]

10. Yes, you definitely did that. And we were kosher until once again we had a debate where you began to lose and you resorted, once again, to sexual attacks against me. The BDSM forum attacks were water under the bridge, forgotten in light of the PM exchange and that we'd moved on. And then you did it again. Constantly sexually sniping at me. Particularly when you knew such things were not welcome.

12. I've described you as abusive to specific women twice. Once when I explained why I don't like you and in this thread. You frequently assume--and with great gusto--that any thread discussing male predators is about you. You had a hissy fit on a how to recognize a male predator thread in the BDSM forum. You're the only one assigning the title of male predator to you is you.


13. I don't like you Lance. I don't have any respect for you. You continuously keep sniping at me in some ridiculous attempts to bring me down to some level you find more comfortable. You keep making these ridiculous allusions to things that I cannot do and you scare people when you do it. You keep trying to make people think that I'm involved in this stupid PM Net to control the way the board is run--anyone whose sent me a PM will laugh in your face over that.

14. The only one concerned with my status as the Story Discussion Circle Moderator is you. If you have a problem with the way I run the SDC, do drop in a give some feedback on how you'd like to see things change.

10. No specifics of new hostilities mentioned. Invalid response.

However, you have advertised your Lanciepants story with glee after Apologizing and offering to take it down. Those things don't matter to me except to show that once again, your accusations are not only completely groundless...the exact opposite is in fact the case.

12. The Male Predator thread on BDSM is sexist in the extreme, perpetuating a myth of dangers that despite several requests for specifics in the BDSM Forum to be "afraid" of , has never been responded to with any facts. Why? Because the Predators don't exist here.

But, as I've said there as well....the Web is full of scams by women to separate men from their money, particularly those scams originating in Eastern Europe. This resulted in Risia agreeing that the Male Predator thread be adjusted to examples of Predators of both genders....but was never done.

As recently as two weeks ago you called me a Predator in a vicious post on a thread that was subsequently deleted after Kuntmode posted details of Lit Ownership from Internic.

13. The last time you were asked here if you could view User IP addresses you said "maybe I can, maybe I can't" (sic). If the allusion is ridiculous it is one you have perpetuated with the assistance of Lit, which posts no specifics or Privacy Policy. Privacy Policies are standard practice on adult websites. The fact that you perceive those perfectly valid questions as personal attacks is irrelevant. Talking about the facts and asking valid questions doesn't raise fears except amongst those who fear something. That's not my responsibility on a free speech site. For everyone else, it raises the level of awareness, for which many expressed their gratitude to those of us who discussed it intelligently.

14. Your specific duties at SDC are of no interest to me, though I assume you do a fine job in that capacity. My issues with Moderators at Lit are perception related due to the poor ambassadorship people like you display in insulting others when the site suggests Mods are here to make your stay more enjoyable...that and the fact that what Moderators can and can't see/do with user data is not stated in a Privacy Policy are valid points for discussion.

I've raised these issues before and I'll likely raise them again. Your responses and mine will likely remain the same.



Lance

 

[Ishmael]

My only response regarding this whole matter was proven by a post of Lance's on a thread when I wasn't around. Glamorilla started a thread apologizing for thoughts towards me after I created a thread questioning the validity of unnamed claims of rape. The thread was not specific to a poster. This thread was about 8 months ago. Glamorilla had experienced something similar and posted an apology to me. It was sincere. Lance came in and changed Glamorilla's words insinuating that my own personal rape experience was a sham. He used the words to insinuate that I specifically had lied.

Lance used rape, a tool of sexuality, in this case specific to my gender as a female against me.

He may have been concerned about KM's rape, but he certainly was amazingly callous with respect to mine.

Lance is a complete schmuck in my book. A lot of people can change. My opinions of them can change for the better or the worse. I can honestly say, his actions have embedded such a negative impression of him, that he could save my fucking dog from dying and I would still think he was an asshole.

Lavy, Lance's treatment of the women that posted to the two rape threads has been noted. Not all that different in context than Hann's treatment of the same women. What?

There's only two more left for him to attack, isn't there?

Ishmael

 

[P. B. Walker]

My last comment on the situation:

Where words are concerned, intent is everything. By your own admission, you fully understand that she didn't intend to make a "sick joke about the dead", because she didn't know Artful was dead. Furthermore, you claim to fully understand that, had she known he was dead, she would have never made the comment.

Still, you cling to your judgement that she is an asshole. It's your prerogative, your opinion, and, by your own admission, you will never change it, no matter what.

We can live with that. You go your way, we'll go ours.

NO, again you so fucking wrong! Gawd damn you fucking people are idiots. I accepted the fact that she made an error in judgement and had a slip of the tongue. Albeit a stupid slip, but we've all done it at one time or another. What I argued about was the fact that her and certain assholes seem to want to defend her action as being ok. That's BULLSHIT. In addition to that argument, I stated that if she had just said "Hey, I made a mistake i'm sorry" then it would have been cool. Instead she jumps down zipman's throat, and then attacks bad kitty. And then in her "apology" she blames it on others. Probably the most fake sounding apology I've ever heard. And now you've got this retard Indigo.Rose arguing her case. I'm sorry, but ya'lls track record is at an utmost low in my book. Will I change my opinion of her? Not with the current data available. And not to even mention, we haven't heard one fucking apologetic word from her at all. So, NO, I'm sorry, my mind is made up. She's shown zilch in terms of regret for her actions/words. I'm not sure where ya'll got your character from, but it's not pretty.

"I'm sorry officer, I didn't intended to kill him, but he was a fucking prick. The gun just went off."

"Oh, well, ok then. You are an ok guy, you can go. We'll just bury him out back next to the shitter."

PBW "Keep digging the hole deeper"

 

[Lancecastor]

Lavy, Lance's treatment of the women that posted to the two rape threads has been noted. Not all that different in context than Hann's treatment of the same women. What?

There's only two more left for him to attack, isn't there?

Ishmael

More of your weak conspiracies without facts, another standard Ishmael post.

Using the same logic, disagreeing with anyone who has revealed elsewhere they are a Republican puts me on a campaign to systematically attack Republicans....SUV owners, Americans, guys with bitch tits, rednecks, Texans, Toronto Maple Leaf fans, lonely old strike-out kings, etc etc etc.

And now I'm Hanns again. You've posted hinting many times that I am, you've come right out and said that I'm not.

You've said you'll unleash the hounds of hell on me.

You've said if I patronize you I'll be punished.

The only common denominator?

Me. Memememememe....me.

Without someone to hate, you'd evaporate.

Ooops....look at the time! I have to go burp the Lindbergh baby!

Ha!

Lance

 

[sterlingclay]

Thanks for quoting him. He's on my ignore list.

Sterling, that's fucking righteous man. I wish I could say the things on my mind right now. But since I can't, I'll just say this: You aint shit little man, I have morals and enough balls to say what I think. You have nothing because your life is a lie. Don't talk to or about me again, you and I have no grounds for speaking terms. You make me sick.

You are close IR. My life is no lie, and you are no saint. I preach nothing and so no righteousness may be proclaimed. Of me you know nothing. Your morals are not in control, or perhaps they are but the rest of you is misguided. There are grounds for speaking when you throw mud. I will defend myself as much as need be. My loss is my punishment, have you any idea? I call on you to show some kindness and understanding. I know you are capable. As for the can of worms, if it should be opened, may it not be by you. It is not your business. You have the balls to say what's on your mind, but you know as well as I to tread softly. You do not make me sick, your hurt concerns me.

 

[tortoise]

And not to even mention, we haven't heard one fucking apologetic word from her at all.

<sigh>

1. Ginny hasn't been on lit at all in the past 7+ hours. When I informed her of your attacks, she said "but I've always gotten along with him, I've always thought he was funny."

2. Your (losing) war of words with Indigo is with Indigo, not Ginny. See #1.

Good night, all.

 

[Ishmael]

More of your weak conspiracies without facts, another standard Ishmael post.

Using the same logic, disagreeing with anyone who has revealed elsewhere they are a Republican puts me on a campaign to systematically attack Republicans....SUV owners, Americans, guys with bitch tits, rednecks, Texans, Toronto Maple Leaf fans, lonely old strike-out kings, etc etc etc.

And now I'm Hanns again. You've posted hinting many times that I am, you've come right out and said that I'm not.

You've said you'll unleash the hounds of hell on me.

You've said if I patronize you I'll be punished.

The only common denominator?

Me. Memememememe....me.

Without someone to hate, you'd evaporate.

Ooops....look at the time! I have to go burp the Lindbergh baby!

Ha!

Lance

Please Lance, correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will.

You have personally attacked Lavy, KillerMuffin, Sunstruck, Intrigued, and Cymbidia. Women that have nothing in common other than the disclosure of their experiences on the two rape theads that have since been removed from the board. Apparently with good reason.

There are only two left to attack and Hanns has already made moves in that direction. Where Hanns goes, you follow. Always Lance. It's all part of the record now. Anyone that wants to read your posts can do so and verify me allegations. Or would you prefer that I start a thread with about 60 links to your posts in it?

You see Lance, I don't have to distort or otherwise interpret your words for the rest of the board as you seem compelled to do with the posts of others. I am quite willing to let your own words stand on their own merit.

Your choice Lance.

Ishmael

 

[P. B. Walker]

<sigh>

1. Ginny hasn't been on lit at all in the past 7+ hours. When I informed her of your attacks, she said "but I've always gotten along with him, I've always thought he was funny."

2. Your (losing) war of words with Indigo is with Indigo, not Ginny. See #1.

Good night, all.

Ok. That makes it all better.

Thanks, nite.

PBW

 

[Lancecastor]

Please Lance, correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will.

You have personally attacked (edited) Women that have nothing in common other than the disclosure of their experiences on the two rape theads that have since been removed from the board. Apparently with good reason.

There are only two left to attack and Hanns has already made moves in that direction. Where Hanns goes, you follow. Always Lance. It's all part of the record now. Anyone that wants to read your posts can do so and verify me allegations. Or would you prefer that I start a thread with about 60 links to your posts in it?

You see Lance, I don't have to distort or otherwise interpret your words for the rest of the board as you seem compelled to do with the posts of others. I am quite willing to let your own words stand on their own merit.

Your choice Lance.

Ishmael

You are obviously much more aware of the backgrounds of those you just named and the rape thread(s) than I am.

I became aware of Muff's experience and wrote her to let her know how badly I felt about our arguments and her reaction to my one joke BDSM scene post in light of having learned of her experience.

As I told her at the time, I didn't read the details of her post...I scanned it and got out of the thread right away when I realized what I'd seen.

The others you have named... I wasn't aware of their personal revelations at the times I responded to their attacks against me, and in fact until you said it here I was completely unaware of most of their histories in this regard.

Whereas you have named them as rape victims after the threads have (you say) been taken down.

Your act strikes me as highly improper.

But that sort of thing likely doesn't cross your mind in your blind self-serving attack on me.

Are they Republicans? Do they drive SUV's?

As for this assertion:

"Where Hanns goes, you follow. Always Lance. "

Obviously that is not possible. He is not here, for example....so much for "always".

So, yes, please provide an Excel spreadsheet as a link in your reply with a full concordance of every single one of Hanns' posts and the names of all those posting within three posts above and below in descending order of Lit users near him since he arrived.

Please also reproduce all posts in which Hanns has threatened another poster and I chimed in to agree that the other person should be "macked" or what have you.

But first, I think you should go edit the names out of your attack.

You sick old fuck.

 

[Ishmael]

You are obviously much more aware of the backgrounds of those you just named and the rape thread(s) than I am.

I became aware of Muff's experience and wrote her to let her know how badly I felt about our arguments and her reaction to my one joke BDSM scene post in light of having learned of her experience.

As I told her at the time, I didn't read the details of her post...I scanned it and got out of the thread right away when I realized what I'd seen.

The others you have named... I wasn't aware of their personal revelations at the times I responded to their attacks against me, and in fact until you said it here I was completely unaware of most of their histories in this regard.

Whereas you have named them as rape victims after the threads have (you say) been taken down.

Your act strikes me as highly improper.

But that sort of thing likely doesn't cross your mind in your blind self-serving attack on me.

Are they Republicans? Do they drive SUV's?

As for this assertion:

"Where Hanns goes, you follow. Always Lance. "

Obviously that is not possible. He is not here, for example....so much for "always".

So, yes, please provide an Excel spreadsheet as a link in your reply with a full concordance of every single one of Hanns' posts and the names of all those posting within three posts above and below in descending order of Lit users near him since he arrived.

Please also reproduce all posts in which Hanns has threatened another poster and I chimed in to agree that the other person should be "macked" or what have you.

But first, I think you should go edit the names out of your attack.

You sick old fuck.

LOL

Hanns leads the attack old boy. Doesn't really matter if he's here this moment or not.

Here's the chronological record of your behavior in BDSM sick young fuck.

From the thoughtful posting through the innuendo to the conspiacies by the "clique" and your attack on the moderators. If you think a similar anthology of your activities on the GB isn't available, well fool yourself all you want.

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90385

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=2293363#post2293363

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102368

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104103

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=2425786#post2425786

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103498 The bruhaha begins in earnest.

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104367

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104582

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104515

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102388&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105268

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105547

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=2479595#post2479595

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105916

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=106185


http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108864 “We are not a chat room”

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=109253 “Bitch, Diss, Slag, Malign”

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=109366

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=110147

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112300

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112327

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112307

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112581 censorship

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112667 Forum closing

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=2759053#post2759053 censorship and free speech crap

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=2827330#post2827330

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116188 cymtalk

Ishmael

 

[Gusty Wind]

"o aaaaayyyyyyaaaaaaa totally off purpose....

~i^




AAAA~bEE~bAA````

hmm....sigh````

dang... I wish I could help...

 

[Lancecastor]

LOL

Hanns leads the attack old boy. Doesn't really matter if he's here this moment or not.

Here's the chronological record of your behavior in BDSM sick young fuck.

From the thoughtful posting through the innuendo to the conspiacies by the "clique" and your attack on the moderators. If you think a similar anthology of your activities on the GB isn't available, well fool yourself all you want.

Ishmael

Good.

Your Hanns + Lance Conspiracies.... quickly abandoned when proofs are requested as offered by you.

But thanks for a list of threads I've participated in on the BDSM Forum.

Yes, please create a list of all my threads on the GB!



Lance

 

[lavender]

My only response regarding this whole matter was proven by a post of Lance's on a thread when I wasn't around. Glamorilla started a thread apologizing for thoughts towards me after I created a thread questioning the validity of unnamed claims of rape. The thread was not specific to a poster. This thread was about 8 months ago. Glamorilla had experienced something similar and posted an apology to me. It was sincere. Lance came in and changed Glamorilla's words insinuating that my own personal rape experience was a sham. He used the words to insinuate that I specifically had lied.

Lance used rape, a tool of sexuality, in this case specific to my gender as a female against me.

He may have been concerned about KM's rape, but he certainly was amazingly callous with respect to mine.

Lance is a complete schmuck in my book. A lot of people can change. My opinions of them can change for the better or the worse. I can honestly say, his actions have embedded such a negative impression of him, that he could save my fucking dog from dying and I would still think he was an asshole.

Lance, when you're called to the carpet, do you just consciously refuse to respond.

You know you were wrong that day. You won't respond because you know it was a low blow that was completely inappropriate and about as low as you can go.

You know you owe me an apology for it - but unlike me, or KM you never fucking apologize when you are at fault.

 

[HeavyStick]

This thread has so much potential. Then BANG!!!! Lavender killed it.

 

[Lancecastor]

Lance, when you're called to the carpet, do you just consciously refuse to respond.

You know you were wrong that day. You won't respond because you know it was a low blow that was completely inappropriate and about as low as you can go.

You know you owe me an apology for it - but unlike me, or KM you never fucking apologize when you are at fault.

If you read the thread...you know that nobody knew what Glam was getting at or talking about, me included.

Your personal history is no knowledge or concern of mine.

If however you are willing to talk about your being raped to show I'm insensitive on the topic ....all I can say is it can't be as important to you as you make it out to be.

That simply tells me that like Ishmael....you really don't care much about anything other than your continued campaign against me.

So go ahead...lay your self wide open....say I made you do it.

Say I'm having a fit.

Start another thread!

But it won't change anything I say or do...not one iota.

Lance

 

[Lancecastor]

This thread has so much potential. Then BANG!!!! Lavender killed it.

I know. Crazed bitch.

I was waiting for Ishmael's next set of "proofs".

Instead, I'll be reading from the phone book over in the audio thread.

You'll love it.

Lance

 

[lavender]

If however you are willing to talk about your being raped to show I'm insensitive on the topic ....all I can say is it can't be as important to you as you make it out to be.

That simply tells me that like Ishmael....you really don't care much about anything other than your continued campaign against me.

And you call ME judgmental.

Thanks for telling me how important or unimportant my sexual assault was to me.

I think you fail to forget half the time that you have a daughter. How would you like your daughter to EVER be treated the way you treat women on this site?

BTW, Ish asked for permission to use my name this way.

 

[alwaysawake]

George Carlin said it best, Lance--"If you don't like the weather--MOVE!" Nobody is forcing you to be here, so grow up!

 

[Lancecastor]

And you call ME judgmental.

Thanks for telling me how important or unimportant my sexual assault was to me.

Shame on you for trotting out your sexual assault as a character assault on a BB.

Get some self respect.

Lance