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Rubyfruit
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I'm not sure about that, Mr. Sweet. I've been told not to exceed 4 every 8 hours with Advil. Tylenol only lasts 4 hours, right? 7-8 at a time sounds alarmingly high.
I think Advil works better on pain than Tylenol anyway. Tylenol is for babies. ;-)
I think Advil works better on pain than Tylenol anyway. Tylenol is for babies. ;-)
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Ruby, current recommended max limits on ibuprofen are 4 tabs (800 mg) every six hours (3200 mg/day). These are, of course, prescription dosing guidelines.
Ibuprofen is a superior drug to acetaminophen for menstrual pain. It's also safer for chronic, long term use but do be careful if you're susceptible to ulcers. It can be rather caustic. Take large doses of ibuprofen with food.
Ibuprofen is a superior drug to acetaminophen for menstrual pain. It's also safer for chronic, long term use but do be careful if you're susceptible to ulcers. It can be rather caustic. Take large doses of ibuprofen with food.
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Guru said:
3200 mg/day is the current maximum dose recommended for any use, though I wouldn't recommend it for long term. The potential for ulceration increases with time and large dose exposure. Remember, at any single dose above 200 mg you're talking about prescription strength and you should refer to your physician for advice. I have no idea what the state of your (or your wife's) health is. I'm only offering general information widely available elsewhere.
For chronic, long term pain (such as cancer pain) you'd generally mix nonsteroidals (like ibuprofen) with narcotics, then eventually go strictly with narcotics as pain increases and tolerance develops.
For any pain, I like adding holistic remedies as well to decrease dependence on drugs. There are many from which to choose though again you have to be careful because holistic (in its broadest sense) is not necessarily synonymous with safe. Personally, I find that folding myself into a lotus, closing my eyes and chanting verses works wonders for me.
But who's talking about long term use anyway? I thought we were discussing menstrual pain.
And Ruby, if I didn't need to be up at the crack of dawn, I'd come join you myself. What are you doing this weekend?
Jim_Henson
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Evil pubes...
If I was roger, I'd be mighty afraid.
I read the red tent the other week and thought it was nice... just didnt overwhelm me cause I guess I'm not one of those girly things.
Good though.
If I was roger, I'd be mighty afraid.
I read the red tent the other week and thought it was nice... just didnt overwhelm me cause I guess I'm not one of those girly things.
Good though.
Speaking of the red tent, I still have that fucking thing in the backseat of my car. LDWH hates me. lol.
I should fucking mail that out.
Oh, and hey, this is funny, I started my flush this morning.
Fancy that.
At least my plumbing is all straight again.
I should fucking mail that out.
Oh, and hey, this is funny, I started my flush this morning.
Fancy that.
At least my plumbing is all straight again.
Cheyenne
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pipercatt said:
Back to the keeper for me, too, for a couple days. But I still won't have to worry about it again until about 11 hours from now when it is time to empty. Periods are a non-event.
So, any more comments other than "very interesting?"
pipercatt
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Cheyenne said:
The "very interesting" was a polite way of saying, "HOLY SHIT! Look at what's coming out!!!"
I've worn it for about 24 hours now, and emptied it twice. It was about half full each time.
I'm liking it for the fact that I clot big time on days 1 and 2, and was always annoyed at the fact that the clots seemed to make the tampons slip and leak, or block the tampon from absorbing more than it should. You are right, Cheyenne, the Keeper makes your period seem like a non-issue.
It's very comfortable, too. I haven't felt it at all.
Cheyenne
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pipercatt said:
hehe... now THAT is more what I was expecting. But it IS interesting, isn't it? I always thought of it as being all blood, but the flow really is other "stuff," too.
Besides being a non-issue, my guess is your period shortens in length, too. I rarely need the keeper more than 48 hours total, maybe 60 hours sometimes.
DarkAngel
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THE FIRST HALF OF THE MENSTRUAL CYCLE (Day 1 to About Day 14 in a 28-Day Cycle)
The Menstrual Phase
The first day of your menstrual period is considered Day 1 of your cycle. The menstrual phase includes your period. During this time, the endometrium (the built-up lining of the uterus) is shed, along with a little blood. Many of the problems that women experience with their menstrual cycle occur during this phase. For example, someone with endometriosis, uterine fibroids, or ovarian cysts is likely to experience menstrual disorders such as dysmenorrhea (painful periods) or menorrhagia (unusually heavy periods).
The Follicular/Proliferative Phase
During the proliferative phase, the body produces a hormone called follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH). Follicle-stimulating hormone promotes the growth of a follicle (egg sac) within the ovary. An ovum matures in the follicle during the proliferative phase. FSH also stimulates the ovary to produce increasing amounts of estrogen. In turn, the estrogen causes endometrial tissue to build up (or proliferate), lining the interior of the uterus.
THE MIDPOINT OF THE MENSTRUAL CYCLE (About Day 14 in a 28-Day Cycle)
The mature ovum bursts forth from the follicle about midway (approximately 2 weeks before onset of next menstrual period) through the menstrual cycle. This process is known as ovulation. The ovum then travels from the ovary down the fallopian tube, and into the uterus.
THE SECOND HALF OF THE MENSTRUAL CYCLE (About Day 14 to Day 28)
The Luteal/Secretory Phase
Once the ovum has been released, the follicle becomes a sac known as the corpus luteum ("yellow body," because it contains yellowish, fatty matter). A hormone called luteinizing hormone (LH) causes the corpus luteum to grow and to secrete progesterone, another female hormone.
During the secretory phase, progesterone makes the endometrial lining stronger and spongy in texture. Progesterone also stimulates glands in the endometrium. These glands produce uterine fluid, and their purpose is to support embryonic development if fertilization has occurred at or around the time of ovulation.
It is in this phase of the menstrual cycle that women who suffer from premenstrual syndrome (PMS) may begin to experience their symptoms. Generally symptoms are worse during the last seven to ten days of the cycle, ending at or soon after the start of the menstrual period.
In a woman who hasn't become pregnant, the level of progesterone peaks about a week after ovulation and then begins to drop along with the estrogen level. The flow of blood to the endometrium decreases, and its upper portion is broken down and shed during menstruation. At the same time, the corpus luteum withers.
The dip in estrogen and progesterone at the end of the cycle help let the body know that it's time to start the cycle all over again.
The Menstrual Phase
The first day of your menstrual period is considered Day 1 of your cycle. The menstrual phase includes your period. During this time, the endometrium (the built-up lining of the uterus) is shed, along with a little blood. Many of the problems that women experience with their menstrual cycle occur during this phase. For example, someone with endometriosis, uterine fibroids, or ovarian cysts is likely to experience menstrual disorders such as dysmenorrhea (painful periods) or menorrhagia (unusually heavy periods).
The Follicular/Proliferative Phase
During the proliferative phase, the body produces a hormone called follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH). Follicle-stimulating hormone promotes the growth of a follicle (egg sac) within the ovary. An ovum matures in the follicle during the proliferative phase. FSH also stimulates the ovary to produce increasing amounts of estrogen. In turn, the estrogen causes endometrial tissue to build up (or proliferate), lining the interior of the uterus.
THE MIDPOINT OF THE MENSTRUAL CYCLE (About Day 14 in a 28-Day Cycle)
The mature ovum bursts forth from the follicle about midway (approximately 2 weeks before onset of next menstrual period) through the menstrual cycle. This process is known as ovulation. The ovum then travels from the ovary down the fallopian tube, and into the uterus.
THE SECOND HALF OF THE MENSTRUAL CYCLE (About Day 14 to Day 28)
The Luteal/Secretory Phase
Once the ovum has been released, the follicle becomes a sac known as the corpus luteum ("yellow body," because it contains yellowish, fatty matter). A hormone called luteinizing hormone (LH) causes the corpus luteum to grow and to secrete progesterone, another female hormone.
During the secretory phase, progesterone makes the endometrial lining stronger and spongy in texture. Progesterone also stimulates glands in the endometrium. These glands produce uterine fluid, and their purpose is to support embryonic development if fertilization has occurred at or around the time of ovulation.
It is in this phase of the menstrual cycle that women who suffer from premenstrual syndrome (PMS) may begin to experience their symptoms. Generally symptoms are worse during the last seven to ten days of the cycle, ending at or soon after the start of the menstrual period.
In a woman who hasn't become pregnant, the level of progesterone peaks about a week after ovulation and then begins to drop along with the estrogen level. The flow of blood to the endometrium decreases, and its upper portion is broken down and shed during menstruation. At the same time, the corpus luteum withers.
The dip in estrogen and progesterone at the end of the cycle help let the body know that it's time to start the cycle all over again.
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Vivacia
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I haven't been in for awhile but thought it was time to catch up with you lovely lasses...
I hope none of you are suffering too badly atm!
I have recently been in hospital for a laporoscopy (sp?) and they have finally given me the reason for all my pain the last god knows how many years...
I have finally been diagnosed with Endometriosis, apparently a fairly severe case of it too - on the plus side they have said that with surgery they should be able to reduce my symptoms and hopefully allow me to concieve.
I am due to go back in in mid Feb for the corrective surgery, so fingers crossed.
Seasons greetings to you all (and hot water bottles for those that need them...)
I hope none of you are suffering too badly atm!
I have recently been in hospital for a laporoscopy (sp?) and they have finally given me the reason for all my pain the last god knows how many years...
I have finally been diagnosed with Endometriosis, apparently a fairly severe case of it too
- on the plus side they have said that with surgery they should be able to reduce my symptoms and hopefully allow me to concieve.I am due to go back in in mid Feb for the corrective surgery, so fingers crossed.
Seasons greetings to you all (and hot water bottles for those that need them...)
Vivacia
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I found this on the net and some of it really touched a nerve for me, knowing that there are others that suffer Endo on these boards (some of you with it a lot worse then me) I wanted to share it...
LIVING WITH ENDOMETRIOSIS " THE LETTER FROM SURVIVORS"
THIS LETTER IS FOR ALL OF US.
Dear Parents, Partners, Friends, Families, Employers & Doctors:
We have spent the last years of our lives apologising for being stricken with a disease we did nothing to contract, and we can do it no longer. We are not responsible for not living up to your expectations the way you think we should. What you seem to fail to realise, is that you are just as much a part of the cycle of the disease as we are, because you are not getting the whole of our person and capabilities.
We are not lazy, we are not whiners, and we do not make the pain up in our heads.
WE HAVE ENDOMETRIOSIS.
We know that we look healthy on the outside, and that is sometimes harder to accept than if we exhibited the disease in our everyday appearances. What you don't see is what our organs look like on the inside, and you don't see what living with it has done to our mental state.
When we call in sick, it's not because we need a mental health day or to "go shopping." Its because we can't get out of bed from the pain. Do you think we like letting our careers pass us by? Would it be easier for you to understand if we said we had cancer and looked the part?
When we get emotional and cry at the seemingly silliest things, or get angry for even less reason, it's not because we are "flaky females." It is because we taking drug therapies to combat the disease, or perhaps because we have come close to breaking point after dealing day in and day out with the pain for which there is no defined cause or absolute cure.
When we can't have intimate relations with our partners, it is not because we don't love you or want to. It's because we can't. It hurts too much. And we aren't feeling real attractive right now.
When you as our parents can't understand that since you are healthy, we should be but aren't - try harder. We don't understand it either. We need your support more than anyone's.
When we can't go to family gatherings or accept social invitations, it's not because we don't wish to share in your fun. It's because we feel like pariahs. You are all having such a nice time with your children and loved ones- we can't remember the last time, or the last time pain-free. We can't have a nice time with our children (some of us), because we were robbed of that chance before we were old enough to even care about having them in the first place. Do you think we need to be reminded of our battle with infertility by watching you and your babies? Or for those of us who were blessed enough to be able to conceive, do you think we want a constant reminder that we never feel well enough to spend enough quality time with our children, or worse- that we might of passed this disease down through our blood onto our daughters?
When you married us you didn't know that we meant the " in sickness and in health" part literally, did you? We bet you were counting on at least a 50/50 split of that combination, rather than the 90/10 ratio you got. You are our caretakers, the ones who drive us to and from our doctors, countless surgeries, and emergency rooms visits. You are the ones who hear us crying in the night and see us break down during the day. You are the ones who wait on us hand and foot after surgery. You are the ones that go for months on end without sharing our beds with us. You are the ones that deal with our infertility right along with us. We strike out at you when we are hurting and angry, and you take it in stride. You are perhaps bigger victims of endometriosis than ever we are. You are appreciated more than words can ever say.
DON'T GIVE UP ON US NOW.
As medical professional, we are coming to you for help. We are asking you to do the job you were trained to do and ease our suffering. We do not need you to tell us that we are imagining the excruciating pain we live in or worse yet, that is "normal for a women to hurt." Keep up with your research, find the cause of this disease and better yet, find a cure! Stop taking the easy
way out and drugging us to oblivion so that we will quiet down. We are not going to quiet down. We want answers and it is your job to provide them. You were the ones that took the oath to heal, why do we have to try to do your job? Do you understand what it means when we tell you that we literally can no longer live a normal life and care for ourselves and our families?
Are you not up to the challenge to find the answers?
To those we have called friends all our lives, why have you deserted us when we needed your compassion and understanding the most? Do you see the selfishness of your actions? When we can't "hang out" and get together with you, its not because we don't like you or we don't care - it's because we no longer capable of enjoying healthy leisure time. Our minds are consumed with our next doctor's appointment, what surgery we are going to have next, and why we feel so sick all the time. This is not about us. Please try to remember what the term "friend" means.
Try to walk one minute in our shoes. We have fought a war for the better part of our years. We are faced daily with physical pain we can't understand and mental anguish we can barely cope with. We have to face a society which doesn't even know the word Endometriosis, much less the ramifications of living with the disease. We have to face uneducated and unsympathetic doctors who tell us things like, "it's all in your head", and "have a hysterectomy, it will cure you", and "get pregnant, it will also cure you", When we know that it won't and have been dealing with infertility for the last however many years. We in our 20s and 30s do not wish to give up our organs just yet. That would be like giving in to the endo.
CAN'T YOU SEE THAT?
We have to fight to get medical treatment the insurance companies don't deem necessary, or worse, we deplete our savings because aren't able to obtain proper care unless we pay for it ourselves. We have to have surgery after surgery and subject ourselves to horrific medications just to be able to get out of bed in the morning. This is not a conscious choice we made, it was the hand we were dealt. It is enough of war we wage just to try and live with some modicum of normalcy don't make it harder on us by not seeing the reason why.
ENDOMETRIOSIS IS A DISEASE THAT AFFECTS ALL OF US.
Take the time to learn about it and understand why we are the way we are. If you can do that, and you can join us in the battle for a cure, then we can one day return to our old selves and live a normal, productive life. We can have a healthy relationship with our loved ones, We can contribute meaningfully to our work environments. We can stop taking the painkillers that numb our suffering to a degree and become part of the living again.
Please don't judge us and declare that we are all the things we are not - until you have lived with this disease ravaging your mind and body, you cannot speak on it.
Whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger, someone once said. While Endometriosis may not kill our physical body, it kills our spirit. It kills every hope and dream we ever had of doing the things that make us happy. All of us are out here searching for a cure to put an end to the disease… we are asking you to take part in that battle and work with us on doing so. Wouldn't it be nice to have backed the daughter, wife, friend, or family member you once knew?
THINK ABOUT IT.
~ The Sentiments of Millions of Endometriosis Survivors around the World
LIVING WITH ENDOMETRIOSIS " THE LETTER FROM SURVIVORS"
THIS LETTER IS FOR ALL OF US.
Dear Parents, Partners, Friends, Families, Employers & Doctors:
We have spent the last years of our lives apologising for being stricken with a disease we did nothing to contract, and we can do it no longer. We are not responsible for not living up to your expectations the way you think we should. What you seem to fail to realise, is that you are just as much a part of the cycle of the disease as we are, because you are not getting the whole of our person and capabilities.
We are not lazy, we are not whiners, and we do not make the pain up in our heads.
WE HAVE ENDOMETRIOSIS.
We know that we look healthy on the outside, and that is sometimes harder to accept than if we exhibited the disease in our everyday appearances. What you don't see is what our organs look like on the inside, and you don't see what living with it has done to our mental state.
When we call in sick, it's not because we need a mental health day or to "go shopping." Its because we can't get out of bed from the pain. Do you think we like letting our careers pass us by? Would it be easier for you to understand if we said we had cancer and looked the part?
When we get emotional and cry at the seemingly silliest things, or get angry for even less reason, it's not because we are "flaky females." It is because we taking drug therapies to combat the disease, or perhaps because we have come close to breaking point after dealing day in and day out with the pain for which there is no defined cause or absolute cure.
When we can't have intimate relations with our partners, it is not because we don't love you or want to. It's because we can't. It hurts too much. And we aren't feeling real attractive right now.
When you as our parents can't understand that since you are healthy, we should be but aren't - try harder. We don't understand it either. We need your support more than anyone's.
When we can't go to family gatherings or accept social invitations, it's not because we don't wish to share in your fun. It's because we feel like pariahs. You are all having such a nice time with your children and loved ones- we can't remember the last time, or the last time pain-free. We can't have a nice time with our children (some of us), because we were robbed of that chance before we were old enough to even care about having them in the first place. Do you think we need to be reminded of our battle with infertility by watching you and your babies? Or for those of us who were blessed enough to be able to conceive, do you think we want a constant reminder that we never feel well enough to spend enough quality time with our children, or worse- that we might of passed this disease down through our blood onto our daughters?
When you married us you didn't know that we meant the " in sickness and in health" part literally, did you? We bet you were counting on at least a 50/50 split of that combination, rather than the 90/10 ratio you got. You are our caretakers, the ones who drive us to and from our doctors, countless surgeries, and emergency rooms visits. You are the ones who hear us crying in the night and see us break down during the day. You are the ones who wait on us hand and foot after surgery. You are the ones that go for months on end without sharing our beds with us. You are the ones that deal with our infertility right along with us. We strike out at you when we are hurting and angry, and you take it in stride. You are perhaps bigger victims of endometriosis than ever we are. You are appreciated more than words can ever say.
DON'T GIVE UP ON US NOW.
As medical professional, we are coming to you for help. We are asking you to do the job you were trained to do and ease our suffering. We do not need you to tell us that we are imagining the excruciating pain we live in or worse yet, that is "normal for a women to hurt." Keep up with your research, find the cause of this disease and better yet, find a cure! Stop taking the easy
way out and drugging us to oblivion so that we will quiet down. We are not going to quiet down. We want answers and it is your job to provide them. You were the ones that took the oath to heal, why do we have to try to do your job? Do you understand what it means when we tell you that we literally can no longer live a normal life and care for ourselves and our families?
Are you not up to the challenge to find the answers?
To those we have called friends all our lives, why have you deserted us when we needed your compassion and understanding the most? Do you see the selfishness of your actions? When we can't "hang out" and get together with you, its not because we don't like you or we don't care - it's because we no longer capable of enjoying healthy leisure time. Our minds are consumed with our next doctor's appointment, what surgery we are going to have next, and why we feel so sick all the time. This is not about us. Please try to remember what the term "friend" means.
Try to walk one minute in our shoes. We have fought a war for the better part of our years. We are faced daily with physical pain we can't understand and mental anguish we can barely cope with. We have to face a society which doesn't even know the word Endometriosis, much less the ramifications of living with the disease. We have to face uneducated and unsympathetic doctors who tell us things like, "it's all in your head", and "have a hysterectomy, it will cure you", and "get pregnant, it will also cure you", When we know that it won't and have been dealing with infertility for the last however many years. We in our 20s and 30s do not wish to give up our organs just yet. That would be like giving in to the endo.
CAN'T YOU SEE THAT?
We have to fight to get medical treatment the insurance companies don't deem necessary, or worse, we deplete our savings because aren't able to obtain proper care unless we pay for it ourselves. We have to have surgery after surgery and subject ourselves to horrific medications just to be able to get out of bed in the morning. This is not a conscious choice we made, it was the hand we were dealt. It is enough of war we wage just to try and live with some modicum of normalcy don't make it harder on us by not seeing the reason why.
ENDOMETRIOSIS IS A DISEASE THAT AFFECTS ALL OF US.
Take the time to learn about it and understand why we are the way we are. If you can do that, and you can join us in the battle for a cure, then we can one day return to our old selves and live a normal, productive life. We can have a healthy relationship with our loved ones, We can contribute meaningfully to our work environments. We can stop taking the painkillers that numb our suffering to a degree and become part of the living again.
Please don't judge us and declare that we are all the things we are not - until you have lived with this disease ravaging your mind and body, you cannot speak on it.
Whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger, someone once said. While Endometriosis may not kill our physical body, it kills our spirit. It kills every hope and dream we ever had of doing the things that make us happy. All of us are out here searching for a cure to put an end to the disease… we are asking you to take part in that battle and work with us on doing so. Wouldn't it be nice to have backed the daughter, wife, friend, or family member you once knew?
THINK ABOUT IT.
~ The Sentiments of Millions of Endometriosis Survivors around the World
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