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[Guest]

If it weren't for the quotation marks, I would have guessed that you also have a piece of crap Zanussi.

I'd never call him that. Not in a million years.

 

[NoJo]

You lie like a rug, that's right, just keep paddling that canoe down to Smut town you tramp.

I hope you were talking to me. I'm going to pretend you were.

 

[NoJo]

I'd never call him that. Not in a million years.

I guess he's more of a Bosch.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

I hope you were talking to me. I'm going to pretend you were.

Yes, you too.....it's a two person canoe.

 

[BlackShanglan]

You don't think the Pre-Raphaelites sent back the advancement of Victorian women just a little? All that romantacised imagery, manly pursuits like the Arts and Crafts movement. A tinge subversive, objectifying and portraying women largely as beautiful, to be an adornment. Madox Brown was singular in portraying 'life in the raw' (Work), though even he had to resort to 'beautifying' to survive as an artist.

The Pre-Raphaelites were the cinematographers of their day, distributing eye candy pictures to the municipalities of England for edification of the urban masses.

As a prelude to the Symbolists, they objectify pretty much everything. It's all about beauty and not about realism. I think the real test of any gender oppression issue is disparity; I'd argue that in the Pre-Raphs there's no more than in the rest of Victorian society. Indeed, given their propensity for sensual and powerful female figures in comparison to the pristine virgins of much of the rest of the time, some women might have found them positively liberating. I can't say that I see them as distinctly more rough on women than on men, or at all any worse than the world around them.

But that's just one horse's perspective.

 

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I think Svenska is with me when I say, WHERE IS SNAPE?!

 

[Guest]

You lie like a rug, that's right, just keep paddling that canoe down to Smut town you tramp.

You think that was bad, check out my post in the "three things about me" thread. Bitch.

 

[NoJo]

As a prelude to the Symbolists, they objectify pretty much everything. It's all about beauty and not about realism. I think the real test of any gender oppression issue is disparity; I'd argue that in the Pre-Raphs there's no more than in the rest of Victorian society. Indeed, given their propensity for sensual and powerful female figures in comparison to the pristine virgins of much of the rest of the time, some women might have found them positively liberating. I can't say that I see them as distinctly more rough on women than on men, or at all any worse than the world around them.

But that's just one horse's perspective.

I guess this is a bad time to say I find long-haired redheads hot.

 

[Guest]

I guess he's more of a Bosch.

Yes, perfect.

Are you a Whirlpool?

 

[ABSTRUSE]

As a prelude to the Symbolists, they objectify pretty much everything. It's all about beauty and not about realism. I think the real test of any gender oppression issue is disparity; I'd argue that in the Pre-Raphs there's no more than in the rest of Victorian society. Indeed, given their propensity for sensual and powerful female figures in comparison to the pristine virgins of much of the rest of the time, some women might have found them positively liberating. I can't say that I see them as distinctly more rough on women than on men, or at all any worse than the world around them.

But that's just one horse's perspective.

The Dead Milkmen and Pre-Raphs??? God I love you...let's run off now and live happily ever after.

 

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[dr_mabeuse]

How come there are no post-Raphaelites? Was he that much of a disappointment?

 

[neonlyte]

As a prelude to the Symbolists, they objectify pretty much everything. It's all about beauty and not about realism. I think the real test of any gender oppression issue is disparity; I'd argue that in the Pre-Raphs there's no more than in the rest of Victorian society. Indeed, given their propensity for sensual and powerful female figures in comparison to the pristine virgins of much of the rest of the time, some women might have found them positively liberating. I can't say that I see them as distinctly more rough on women than on men, or at all any worse than the world around them.

But that's just one horse's perspective.

I'm afraid mine was the view of a cynic who had too many years of the pre-Raphs through Architecture School, then when I finished, I ended up living 2 minutes walk from William Morris's Red House. The whole Arts and Crafts movement weighed heavily on Victorian and Post-Victorian architecture, and rarely in a pretty way. That and being wed to a 'modern artist' (strictly non-figurative) excuses my view

There are other reasons as you mention, but not for this thread.

 

[BlackShanglan]

I'm afraid mine was the view of a cynic who had too many years of the pre-Raphs through Architecture School, then when I finished, I ended up living 2 minutes walk from William Morris's Red House. The whole Arts and Crafts movement weighed heavily on Victorian and Post-Victorian architecture, and rarely in a pretty way. That and being wed to a 'modern artist' (strictly non-figurative) excuses my view

There are other reasons as you mention, but not for this thread.

I enjoy your perspective, Neonlyte. (Sorry, threw myself there as I nearly put your name.) In the interest of full disclosure - are you reading, Abs? - I have my own bias. I'm a passionate lover of the Decadence, and the Pre-Raphs are the roots of it. True, one really had to have Pater, but it's hard to miss Rossetti's contribution as well. He's a quirky, strange, and times awful creature, is Dante ... but without him, so much else falls apart. Something perhaps like Pound - I loathe the man (although I have to bow to some of his poems), but I couldn't sacrifice Eliot to get rid of him.

Shanglan

 

[ABSTRUSE]

I enjoy your perspective, Neonlyte. (Sorry, threw myself there as I nearly put your name.) In the interest of full disclosure - are you reading, Abs? - I have my own bias. I'm a passionate lover of the Decadence, and the Pre-Raphs are the roots of it. True, one really had to have Pater, but it's hard to miss Rossetti's contribution as well. He's a quirky, strange, and times awful creature, is Dante ... but without him, so much else falls apart. Something perhaps like Pound - I loathe the man (although I have to bow to some of his poems), but I couldn't sacrifice Eliot to get rid of him.

Shanglan

Can I ride you bareback now? feed you apples and brush your mane??? Eliot too???..........sigh

 

[BlackShanglan]

Can I ride you bareback now? feed you apples and brush your mane??? Eliot too???..........sigh

Absolutely. And I will recite Dowson to you as you do.

 

[OhMissScarlett]

I enjoy your perspective, Neonlyte. (Sorry, threw myself there as I nearly put your name.) In the interest of full disclosure - are you reading, Abs? - I have my own bias. I'm a passionate lover of the Decadence, and the Pre-Raphs are the roots of it. True, one really had to have Pater, but it's hard to miss Rossetti's contribution as well. He's a quirky, strange, and times awful creature, is Dante ... but without him, so much else falls apart. Something perhaps like Pound - I loathe the man (although I have to bow to some of his poems), but I couldn't sacrifice Eliot to get rid of him.

Shanglan

I have to agree with you here. I hate Rossetti and love him at the same time. He's the guy who treats you like crap, but you can't stop fucking. The whole movement is filled with bad boys and shrinking violets. It's sort of a brilliant soap opera that's better than fiction. As far as the Arts and Crafts era goes, they really made some ugly stuff, but don't throw away those hammered copper ashtrays, they're worth a small fortune.

 

[elsol]

I guess this is a bad time to say I find long-haired redheads hot.

Try not to feel special, Joe.

Driftwood finds long-haired redheads hot.

In fact, long-haired redheads are the little known secret weakness of most men... just ask around.

'What's your type?'

"I like short curvy blondes with mischievous blue eyes!"

"What about a redhead?"

"I'm straight, dude!"

"That doesn't answer the question?"

"Are you gay?"

"NO!"

"What do you think of redheads?"

"Oh! Never mind."

"Good boy... next question."

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

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[OhMissScarlett]

In fact, long-haired redheads are the little known secret weakness of most men... just ask around.

Sincerely,
ElSol

I've heard.

 

[Guest]

• tomato sauce
• mushrooms
• onions
• tomato paste
• sam adams
• break
• sex
• sex
• sex
• sex

 

[lil_elvis]

• tomato sauce
• mushrooms
• onions
• tomato paste
• sam adams
• break
• sex
• sex
• sex
• sex

You forgot:

• Gloat
• Gloat
• Gloat

 

[Guest]

You forgot:

• Gloat
• Gloat
• Gloat

didnt forget, hunk o hunk o burning lurve
i just thought i would be less conspicuous....
howevah...now that you mention it

• GLOAT
• GLOAT
• GLOAT

 

[NoJo]

didnt forget, hunk o hunk o burning lurve
i just thought i would be less conspicuous....
howevah...now that you mention it

• GOAT
• GOAT
• GOAT

Are they gruff?

 

[Guest]

Are they gruff?

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what sound does the monkey boy make? hrm...