Let's talk about guns, shootings, solutions and idiotic suggestions

[jaF0]

Any weapons confiscated from crimes, or any turned in on buybacks MUST be destroyed. Melted down.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1532738524461539331

 

[jomar]

No..... welfare and authoritarianism aren't the only options, Democrats maximum authoritarian mentality notwithstanding of course.

Ah, you’re back, it seems.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1532738524461539331

Piece of shit cops are pieces of shit.

Ah, you’re back, it seems.

Did the lack of compliance and "Just go with the woke comrades....communism or bust!!" give it away??? LOL

Oh noes, I don't hate civil liberty and white people..... that makes me ULTRAMAGA!!!!!!

 

[icanhelp1]

Ah, you’re back, it seems.

LMFAO

 

[jomar]

Piece of shit cops are pieces of shit.



Did the lack of compliance and "Just go with the woke comrades....communism or bust!!" give it away??? LOL

Oh noes, I don't hate civil liberty and white people..... that makes me ULTRAMAGA!!!!!!

You’re consistent if nothing else

 

[ll74]

A note on arming teachers, by a teacher

https://twitter.com/x/status/1532689658877861889

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Someone is happy...

LMFAO

Your jerk-off partners back......let the sperm begin to fly......*chuckles*

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

A note on arming teachers, by a teacher

https://twitter.com/x/status/1532689658877861889

I agree, teachers (and anyone else for that matter) who don't want to arm or defend themselves SHOULDN'T.

They want to trust their lives to those chicken shit cops, that's their bidnizz.

 

[ll74]

I agree, teachers (and anyone else for that matter) who don't want to arm or defend themselves SHOULDN'T.

They want to trust their lives to those chicken shit cops, that's their bidnizz.

Go figure you'd miss the point.

 

[phrodeau]

I agree, teachers (and anyone else for that matter) who don't want to arm or defend themselves SHOULDN'T.

They want to trust their lives to those chicken shit cops, that's their bidnizz.

Teachers should have a safe workplace. Why is that not clear to you?

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

Go figure you'd miss the point.

I thought I was quite on it.

I mean the teacher came right out and got to the point. They don't want to be armed, defend themselves or kids from lunatics that might attack them and they shouldn't be forced to do so, they are teachers not soldiers.

I 100% agree with that.

If there was some other point??? It wasn't very pointy.

Teachers should have a safe workplace. Why is that not clear to you?

Everyone SHOULD have a safe workplace. That ideal is clear to me.

In the real world evil and dangerous people exist and the 99% work in extremally low security conditions.

The ideal is not the reality and recognizing that reality isn't a denial of the ideal.

Why are these facts so hard for you and yours to grasp??

 

[phrodeau]

I thought I was quite on it.

I mean the teacher came right out and got to the point. They don't want to be armed, defend themselves or kids from lunatics that might attack them and they shouldn't be forced to do so, they are teachers not soldiers.

I 100% agree with that.

If there was some other point??? It wasn't very pointy.



Everyone SHOULD have a safe workplace. That ideal is clear to me.

In the real world evil and dangerous people exist and the 99% work in extremally low security conditions.

The ideal is not the reality and recognizing that reality isn't a denial of the ideal.

Why are these facts so hard for you and yours to grasp??

Have you ever been in a hospital when they call for an active shooter drill? How about a movie theater? Grocery store? House of worship? Are we supposed to be having active shooter drills in every place that people gather?

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

Have you ever been in a hospital when they call for an active shooter drill? How about a movie theater? Grocery store? House of worship?

No. Why??

Are we supposed to be having active shooter drills in every place that people gather?

IDGAF if you do or not.....but if you're not able or willing to defend yourself and totally dependent on those maybe cowardly cops?? You might want to consider it.

 

[pecksniff]

No. Why??

Because mass shootings have happened in all of those settings.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

Because mass shootings have happened in all of those settings.

Mass shootings happen in all sorts of places.....no shit Sherlock.

What does doing some "put your head between your legs, kiss your ass goodbye and hope one of the 30 cops standing around outside decide to maybe do something before you're helplessly gunned down by some lunatic. " drill have to do with me??

That's never happening to me..... I don't do helpless victim, I'm not a male feminist or a progressive lefty.

 

[pecksniff]

Mass shootings happen in all sorts of places.....no shit Sherlock.

What does doing some "put your head between your legs, kiss your ass goodbye and hope one of the 30 cops standing around outside decide to maybe do something before you're helplessly gunned down by some lunatic. " drill have to do with me??

A lot, if one ever happens and you're not armed that day. And I should hope not even you are armed every day.

 

[phrodeau]

Mass shootings happen in all sorts of places.....no shit Sherlock.

What does doing some "put your head between your legs, kiss your ass goodbye and hope one of the 30 cops standing around outside decide to maybe do something before you're helplessly gunned down by some lunatic. " drill have to do with me??

That's never happening to me..... I don't do helpless victim, I'm not a male feminist or a progressive lefty.

Active shooter drills are common in schools nowadays. They conduct them in the hope that, if a gunman opens fire in the school, there will be more survivors, regardless of their family’s politics.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

A lot, if one ever happens and you're not armed that day.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/75/84/04/758404ebc522ce0beff7f02e59fdaf47.jpg

And I should hope not even you are armed every day.

Why??

What's wrong with being armed every day??

Active shooter drills are common in schools nowadays.

Probably a good thing since we made them the ultimate soft helpless targets for lunatic incels seeking their 5 min of fame.

They conduct them in the hope that, if a gunman opens fire in the school, there will be more survivors, regardless of their family’s politics.

Seems pretty weak.....

 

[jaF0]

Lemmeguess, SillyGagMeGoon is Cornpone?

 

[phrodeau]

Schools would not be “soft targets” if the weapons available to everyone weren’t so lethal.

 

[butters]

multi-faith Utah religious leaders speak out... 'no more'. prayers, yes, but prayers without actions are not good enough from political powers

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...pc=U531&cvid=1e827f9239124d519b806d5905383728

The religious leaders from various faiths on Friday asked Utah lawmakers to "heed our cries of war and to do what is right and just.

The Rev. Curtis Price, pastor at the First Baptist Church in Salt Lake City, said it is an issue of keeping families safe and loving neighbors. He said it is frustrating and infuriating that change is taking so long. The religious leaders prayed, but they also focused on action.

"We have gathered here to pray, yes, but to also follow up those prayers with demands," the Rev. Price said. "As people of faith we know that how prayer is answered is by people responding to a call. To our legislators here in the state of Utah we say this is your call, and we are asking, we are pleading, we are demanding that you answer."

 

[pecksniff]

What's wrong with being armed every day??

It is a symptom of mental illness.

 

[DroolinFool]

My bona fidas: I am a gun owner. I've had one in my hand since I was ten or eleven, back when I'd take my dads single shot Springfield .22 and go out hunting for grouse. I intend to keep them too. So I have a stake in gun ownership. But I've also been to war, have seen bodies of those who have been killed by guns. And make no mistake, we are in a war. Well more accurately it's a one sided massacre perpetrated by deranged people who have no regard for the sanctity of life.

With every thing going on, all the senseless kill's happening, the one question asked by everyone is: How do we stop it?

Let's look at the suggestions, the road blocks to them and what we need to do to stop it.

One of the major suggestions, made over and over, is to harden our schools. Lock the doors, metal detectors at the entrances, armed security guards, those are the most frequently voiced ones. Locked doors don't help if they are left open. they don't help if the shooter can shoot the lock out and enter. Metal detectors don't help if the shooter, like the last one, doesn't give a rats ass about hiding the gun. Armed guards don't help if they refuse to engage or if the shooter has the guard out gunned and kills them.

If the shooter gets past those, which viewing recent history it doesn't seem to be a problem, because of the way classrooms are designed (single entry/exit doors) they have a 'fish in a barrel' scenario. For the sake of argument, let's say we do all that for the schools. But wait! What about supermarkets? Churches? Musical events? Are we going to set up sanded bagged fighting positions around those too? That suggestion doesn't fly because unless we turn the whole country into a war zone, with all the associated hardening of EVERYTHING, shooters will find another target.

That's out then.

All almost everyone agrees the kid that killed all those children was mentally disturbed. And almost everyone agrees we need to find a way to keep those who are mentally disturbed and who would perpetrate such an action from having a gun. That, for the lack of a better term, would be a Red Flag Law. However, when we get to that point, many who agree intervention before the event needs to be done balk and refuse to do it. Why? It's EXACTLY WHAT EVERYONE AGREES NEEDS TO BE DONE. Why then do they suggest one thing, then refuse to implement it?

The same goes for mental health. Almost everyone agrees people like the one in Texas need mental health help. Not just to better their lives, but to protect others from them. But when it comes down to implementation, the funding for such things never gets passed, or disappears, ala Texas Governor Abbott.

Every extreme right wing gun supporter will point to Chicago or Detroit and tell us that those are Democratically controlled bastions ave tightly controlled guns, and they have gun violence all the time. What they fail to say is all those guns are brought in from out of town, out of state in some instances, by people who buy them, legally, and sell them at a huge profit. That is a fabulous argument for a national date base of gun owners. The scream about that is "They'll have my name so they can come and take my guns!" That's true. If you break the law, if you're subject to a Red Flag hearing, they will, and can, and should. But it isn't going to happen for the law abiding citizen. The 2nd amendment see's to that. The reasoning of "I don't want them to know what I have, 'cause the government will come take them" is paranoid bullshit, or a perceived defense for those who do have them, but shouldn't.

There should be a national data based of those who own guns. There should be an FFL check on EVERY gun sale, even private ones. The right to own guns via the 2nd amendment has been reaffirmed by the courts over and over, even liberal lead courts. They have also affirmed that right doesn't mean that gun ownership can't be regulated and licensed.

The right blindly refuses to support ANY logical rules and regulations that are suggested. The left mean while, passes stupid ass laws that do nothing but make it harder on the legal, law abiding gun owner. It's time for both sides to get their head out of their asses and get some things done to protect those who can't protect themselves. It's time to stop the murder of our vulnerable, stop the killing of our kids and elderly who are dying for no other reason than the two sides are so invested, so narrow in their vision of how it should be, they can't see what needs be.


Comshaw

Not a single 1 of you that claim to care about the lives of fellow human beings are addressing any of the top 10 forms of preventable death in the world. So remind me why anyone should care about your thoughtless diatribes about your subjective knee jerk over gun deaths? You can't get Congress to ban cigarettes or Big Macs. But you expect someone to think you care and have a solution to a rinky dink, drop in the bucket issue like mass shootings? You don't care about life. You're a slave to what CNN tells you to care about.

 

[phrodeau]

Here’s a good example of how Fox News operates. This article mainly covers interviews with a black couple and a Mexican immigrant who attended the NRA convention. They discuss mental health and school security issues. But the article opens with the scary news that minorities are buying up weapons more than ever before.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mi...tick-firearm-purchases-gun-control-debate.amp