It's Time To Abolish Teacher's Unions

[pecksniff]

Elections are won by independents. That still doesn't explain Bud's point. Blue states like CA, NY and IL are losing residents and FL., TX. and AZ are gaining them.

Florida has been receiving a steady flood of NY immigrants, by no means all of them retirees, ever since the 1950s, it's nothing new. I once lived in Volusia County, and the bedroom community of Deltona (most residents commuted to Orlando for work) had a local directory sorted by resident's state of origin, and the New York section was the thickest in the book.

 

[Rightguide]

No, they're not, no more than any other kind of labor union.

You're full of crap. Teachers are government employees, their unions represent the interests of the government as they apply to the government schools and the interests of government teachers. There should be no government employee unions, period.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

No, that you'd talk about anything but the issue. And I was right again.

Again, you're making a claim with zero evidence to back it up.

Exactly. You're asking me to prove a negative, Dud. Bring proof or STFU.

 

[pecksniff]

You're full of crap. Teachers are government employees, their unions represent the interests of the government as they apply to the government schools and the interests of government teachers. There should be no government employee unions, period.

Nevertheless, any union of civil servants is still a private organization, just as much as the United Auto Workers or the Teamsters.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You're full of crap. Teachers are government employees, their unions represent the interests of the government as they apply to the government schools and the interests of government teachers. There should be no government employee unions, period.

Some of us believe in the tenets of capitalism and will disagree with you.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Florida has been receiving a steady flood of NY immigrants, by no means all of them retirees, ever since the 1950s, it's nothing new. I once lived in Volusia County, and the bedroom community of Deltona (most residents commuted to Orlando for work) had a local directory sorted by resident's state of origin, and the New York section was the thickest in the book.

NY lost 1.6% of its population in one year.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

NY lost 1.6% of its population in one year.

And Cali lost .60% of the 7% it gained over the past 10 years but you keep sounding that retarded alarm, Dud.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Exactly. You're asking me to prove a negative, Dud. Bring proof or STFU.

He's balked at providing any proof of his claims through these 2 threads.

 

[pecksniff]

NY lost 1.6% of its population in one year.

Good. In the next election, the NY newcomers will not vote for DeSantis.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Exactly. You're asking me to prove a negative, Dud. Bring proof or STFU.

Go back and re-read: I'm asking you why CA is bleeding population. Repeating my question here: California, New York and Illinois are bleeding people. Texes, Florida and Arizona are swelling with the influx. Why?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Go back and re-read: I'm asking you why CA is bleeding population. Repeating my question here: California, New York and Illinois are bleeding people. Texes, Florida and Arizona are swelling with the influx. Why?

It's your claim, it falls on you to prove it.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Go back and re-read: I'm asking you why CA is bleeding population. Repeating my question here: California, New York and Illinois are bleeding people. Texes, Florida and Arizona are swelling with the influx. Why?

Same as you, I don't know. And where the fuck is "Texes?"

 

[LukSkyFokker]

He's balked at providing any proof of his claims through these 2 threads.

His dipshittery is bringing me Christmas cheer.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Same as you, I don't know. And where the fuck is "Texes?"

New York, California and Illinois saw the largest declines in population due to outmigration in 2020, according to new U.S. Census Bureau data, as overall population growth slowed to the lowest levels since the nation's founding.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/nat...cle_8949488c-628a-11ec-be41-87ebc896aaf7.html

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Yes, moron, we are aware people are leaving. Now, back up your claim as to why they are leaning.

I swear, for the anti fake news crowd, you all sure do like to spew bullshit.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Yes, moron, we are aware people are leaving. Now, back up your claim as to why they are leaning.

I swear, for the anti fake news crowd, you all sure do like to spew bullshit.

My peersonal view matches pretty well with this analysis:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...businesses_are_dumping_california_146938.html

Lack of ecnomic freedom, lack of personal freedom, horrid schools, confiscatory taxes, poor public services, rampant crime, an aloof and insular political class. People will pay a bit more for the lovely scenery, but not what CA is charging.

 

[pecksniff]

. . . an aloof and insular political class.

There is no "political class."

 

[Bud_Spencer]

There is no "political class."

Jedi mind tricks by non-Jedis are just pathetic and hollow. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Gavin Newsom is Pelosi's nephew, who is the former Mayor of Baltimore's daughter.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

My peersonal view matches pretty well with this analysis:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...businesses_are_dumping_california_146938.html

Lack of ecnomic freedom, lack of personal freedom, horrid schools, confiscatory taxes, poor public services, rampant crime, an aloof and insular political class. People will pay a bit more for the lovely scenery, but not what CA is charging.

An op-ed from a talk show host. Solid facts, Dud! Why do you do this to yourself?

Not what CA is charging? I'm in Cali, going to my parent's house in Cali, and will visit my brothers and sister who also live in Cali. Along with my grown nieces and nephews.

I hope Santa brought you a few remedial English classes at your local JuCo.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

An op-ed from a talk show host. Solid facts, Dud! Why do you do this to yourself?

Not what CA is charging? I'm in Cali, going to my parent's house in Cali, and will visit my brothers and sister who also live in Cali. Along with my grown nieces and nephews.

I hope Santa brought you a few remedial English classes at your local JuCo.

I can post other links to analyses, but strangely say much the same thing as I do: Rotten public services, crime, congestion, taxes, the lot. Here's a typical pece:

https://travelmedium.com/why-are-people-leaving-california

It's only one data point, but when I was doing an arc flash study in NoCal a couple of years ago, the lead electrician told me he and his family were moving to Utah because he saw who the government of CA protected and who it didn't, and being a productive, white, heterosexual, Christian male, it sure wasn't him or his family.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I can post other links to analyses, but strangely say much the same thing as I do: Rotten public services, crime, congestion, taxes, the lot. Here's a typical pece:

https://travelmedium.com/why-are-people-leaving-california

It's only one data point, but when I was doing an arc flash study in NoCal a couple of years ago, the lead electrician told me he and his family were moving to Utah because he saw who the government of CA protected and who it didn't, and being a productive, white, heterosexual, Christian male, it sure wasn't him or his family.

You haven't posted any analyses. You posted an article about a study. You haven't provided any data either.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

I can post other links to analyses, but strangely say much the same thing as I do: Rotten public services, crime, congestion, taxes, the lot. Here's a typical pece:

https://travelmedium.com/why-are-people-leaving-california

It's only one data point, but when I was doing an arc flash study in NoCal a couple of years ago, the lead electrician told me he and his family were moving to Utah because he saw who the government of CA protected and who it didn't, and being a productive, white, heterosexual, Christian male, it sure wasn't him or his family.

"Other links to analyses" implies you posted any in the first place. Cool anecdote, Dud. Now bring some facts, monkey.

 

[pecksniff]

Jedi mind tricks by non-Jedis are just pathetic and hollow. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Gavin Newsom is Pelosi's nephew, who is the former Mayor of Baltimore's daughter.

Oh, of course influential relatives help, in politics as in business. Nevertheless, the U.S. does not have and never has had a political class, the way a Communist state or an aristocratic republic does.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You haven't posted any analyses. You posted an article about a study. You haven't provided any data either.

LMAO...let me guess...you're saying these links aren't analysis, right? So we are, yet again, at the point of arguing over the meanings of words?

Imagine my surprise.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

"Other links to analyses" implies you posted any in the first place. Cool anecdote, Dud. Now bring some facts, monkey.

All of the links are to explanations of the loss in population (known as "analysis"), and all say much the same thing as the links I posted. But rejecting reality is at the center of your politics, so it should surprise no one.