It's Time To Abolish Teacher's Unions

[SgtSpiderMan]

All of the links are to explanations of the loss in population (known as "analysis"), and all say much the same thing as the links I posted. But rejecting reality is at the center of your politics, so it should surprise no one.

An analysis is by definition a detailed examination, that's very different from an explanation.

You would think an engineer would know the difference.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

An analysis is by definition a detailed examination, that's very different from an explanation.

You would think an engineer would know the difference.

I rest my case.

 

[pecksniff]

I rest my case.

You only say that when you have failed to prove it.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I rest my case.

You haven't made a case yet, that's what we all keep telling you but you refuse to believe. The best you have is stuff you claim to have seen but no one has any way of confirming that.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You haven't made a case yet, that's what we all keep telling you but you refuse to believe. The best you have is stuff you claim to have seen but no one has any way of confirming that.

So when someone says, "I left because of the filth," that doesn't count as analysis? Does he have to say "I left because of the pile of shot at 1107 Lobbard St. that I encountered on June 17, 2021?"

These stories are analysis; broad, yes, but still analysis. And when all of them say prety much the samething, they're on to something.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

So when someone says, "I left because of the filth," that doesn't count as analysis? Does he have to say "I left because of the pile of shot at 1107 Lobbard St. that I encountered on June 17, 2021?"

These stories are analysis; broad, yes, but still analysis. And when all of them say prety much the samething, they're on to something.

No, it doesn't. One person is a sample size that's way too small. Sure, you might find one person, 10 or 100 who say that, but if thousands are saying they left for something else then filth isn't the main reason people are leaving.

When you use a term like "pretty much" it tells everyone that you're not using research or an analysis to make these claims.

 

[Cubantripod]

You'll find that most people who support CRT are self-ID'd liberals (using the word as it is commonly used in American political discourse).

Just because they identify as liberals doesn't mean they are. Many of them are leftists. Their beliefs are contrary to the basic tenets of liberalism.

 

[Rightguide]

Nevertheless, any union of civil servants is still a private organization, just as much as the United Auto Workers or the Teamsters.

No it isn't.

 

[Rightguide]

You'll find that most people who support CRT are self-ID'd liberals (using the word as it is commonly used in American political discourse).

Because they are either too dumb or too embarrassed to admit the truth. They are leftist or Marxists.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

No, it doesn't. One person is a sample size that's way too small. Sure, you might find one person, 10 or 100 who say that, but if thousands are saying they left for something else then filth isn't the main reason people are leaving.

When you use a term like "pretty much" it tells everyone that you're not using research or an analysis to make these claims.

i trust that the journalists I cited talked to more than one person for their story.

If you have some data showing other reasons for CA bleeding population, I'm all ears.

 

[pecksniff]

Because they are either too dumb or too embarrassed to admit the truth. They are leftist or Marxists.

Only in the sense of knowing some little about what Marx wrote.

 

[Rotadom]

All of the links are to explanations of the loss in population (known as "analysis"), and all say much the same thing as the links I posted. But rejecting reality is at the center of your politics, so it should surprise no one.

What happened yesterday when you said you had Peer-Reviewed links and never provided said Peer-Reviewed links? You're losing here.

 

[pecksniff]

No it isn't.

Well, it's not a government agency, is it? The only thing to distinguish a civil-service union from the UAW is the nature of its employer -- which makes little difference when you're negotiating for benefits or whatever.

 

[pecksniff]

Say, how come we're not seeing the same RW hostility to police unions?

 

[GothTalk]

You'll find that most people who support CRT are self-ID'd liberals (using the word as it is commonly used in American political discourse).

They aren't even CLOSE to being what is commonly used in American political discourse.


Progressive leftist are NOT liberal by any definition.

This is an objective fact regardless of the feelings of the idiots who don't understand the difference.

 

[Rotadom]

Say, how come we're not seeing the same RW hostility to police unions?

Because that means they would have to be honest and we all know that ain't happening.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

What happened yesterday when you said you had Peer-Reviewed links and never provided said Peer-Reviewed links? You're losing here.

I did provide those from both UC Davis and The Lancet. Go find my posts for verification.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

i trust that the journalists I cited talked to more than one person for their story.

If you have some data showing other reasons for CA bleeding population, I'm all ears.

Then it's an article, not research or an analysis. If the journalist talked to ten people that's still too small a sample size.

It's not my claim, it's yours, and it's one you've realized you can't prove.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Then it's an article, not research or an analysis. If the journalist talked to ten people that's still too small a sample size.

It's not my claim, it's yours, and it's one you've realized you can't prove.

And tell us all how many it takes to meet a Sarge level for analysis.

 

[pecksniff]

Because that means they would have to be honest and we all know that ain't happening.

Well, a police union is just as much civil-service as a teachers' union. And rather more politicized, as we have seen in the role the police unions have played in the BLM controversies over the past two years.

 

[Rightguide]

Well, it's not a government agency, is it? The only thing to distinguish a civil-service union from the UAW is the nature of its employer -- which makes little difference when you're negotiating for benefits or whatever.

It is a collaboration of government employees to threaten the taxpayers with labor stoppages if elected representatives don't do their bidding and increase their benefits and wages. Meanwhile their productivity and worth to the public never increases and the added costs are piled onto the debt for which the taxpayers are forever taxed and their own livelihoods diminished. it's a racket that has crippled CA with a 1.5 trillion dollar debt which has increased by 15% since January 2017. Taxes required to service this debt is the main reason why people are leaving in droves. The state is in an economic death spiral.

 

[Rotadom]

I did provide those from both UC Davis and The Lancet. Go find my posts for verification.

Were they both Peer-Reviewed?

 

[pecksniff]

It is a collaboration of government employees to threaten the taxpayers with labor stoppages if elected representatives don't do their bidding and increase their benefits and wages.

So what? That's just what the UAW does, only the taxpayers aren't involved.

 

[GothTalk]

So what? That's just what the UAW does, only the taxpayers aren't involved.

Exactly.

 

[Rotadom]

Were they both Peer-Reviewed?

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Bud? Did you OD on egg nog?