It's not a good idea to piss off the Judge that controls your life.

[SeaDaddy1]

Giggling teen flips judge the bird, judge not amused.

http://peoplestrustmalaysia.wordpre...g-teen-flips-judge-the-bird-judge-not-amused/

 

[marshalt]

That's fucking bullshit. Judges should not be able to raise someone's bail just because they got their feelings hurt.

The whole contempt of court is crap too. How can you throw someone in jail for 30 days with no trial?

 

[SeaDaddy1]

That's fucking bullshit. Judges should not be able to raise someone's bail just because they got their feelings hurt.

The whole contempt of court is crap too. How can you throw someone in jail for 30 days with no trial?

Say that to a judge next time you're you're standing in front of one that controls your sentencing. See what happens.

 

[Phelia]

Yikes. I don't see this girl going to jail for thirty days and then leaving the better for it.

 

[marshalt]

Say that to a judge next time you're you're standing in front of one that controls your sentencing. See what happens.

I'd be smart enough to have a lawyer there with me.

 

[1sickbastard]

That's fucking bullshit. Judges should not be able to raise someone's bail just because they got their feelings hurt.

The whole contempt of court is crap too. How can you throw someone in jail for 30 days with no trial?

Which is a good reason to show the judge respect and use one's manners. If one disrespects the judge (showing contempt), then the judge has every right to assign penalties for said contempt.

And as it was assigned by the judge sitting in his own court, it was done at trial.

 

[marshalt]

Which is a good reason to show the judge respect and use one's manners. If one disrespects the judge (showing contempt), then the judge has every right to assign penalties for said contempt.

And as it was assigned by the judge sitting in his own court, it was done at trial.

It was done at a bail hearing for a different crime.

The whole issue of contempt is, again, bullshit.

 

[XdOu™]

*clicks

 

[Colonel Hogan]

That's fucking bullshit. Judges should not be able to raise someone's bail just because they got their feelings hurt.

The whole contempt of court is crap too. How can you throw someone in jail for 30 days with no trial?

From Wiki:

Currently in the United States every person accused of a crime punishable by incarceration for more than six months has a constitutional right to a trial by jury, which arises in federal court from Article Three of the United States Constitution, which states in part, "The Trial of all Crimes...shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed." Most states' constitutions also grant the right of trial by jury in lesser criminal matters, though most have eliminated that right in offenses punishable by fine only. The Supreme Court has ruled that if imprisonment is for six months or less, trial by jury is not required, (BALDWIN v. NEW YORK, 399 U.S. 66 (1970)) meaning a state may choose whether or not to permit trial by jury in such cases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juries_in_the_United_States#Scope_of_constitutional_right

Obviously states would be free to deny jury trials for those jailed for contempt of court as long as the imposed incarceration was for less than six months. If the state allows for jury trial in cases of criminal contempt, then obviously the defendant could post bail and dispute the charges at a separate trial on the contempt charge alone.

In the case of civil contempt, violators are almost always incarcerated for their failure to obey the lawful order or verdict of the court (i.e. failure to pay child support, failure to appear and testify as a material witness, etc). The length of incarceration under civil contempt is solely determined by the violator's obstinance. He or she has the ability to "free" themselves at any time by entering into compliance with the court.

Contempt of court is NOT bullshit. The criminal and civil procedures which courts, lawyers, plaintiffs and defendants must follow in order to fairly dispense justice is as much a rational and appropriate body of law as the prohibitions and protections that the law attempts to identify as its primary reason for being.

Moreover, since juries are almost always the sole "trier of fact," it is the alleged violation(s) of judicial procedure that is the basis for all successful appeals.

 

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[Busybody]

they shoulda chopped the CUNTS finger off

and let her walk

 

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[Busybody]

did he say the same?

 

[1sickbastard]

It was done at a bail hearing for a different crime.

The whole issue of contempt is, again, bullshit.

Doesn't matter if it was a bail hearing, not does it matter if you think it's bullshit. When one is in court, especially when the judge is present, one must respect the decorum of that court as well as the authority of the judge, even if one does not respect the person who is the judge.

Failure to do so has consequences, as little miss thing found to her dismay.

Maybe your whole point is that you don't feel actions should not have consequences.

In which case, your attitude is bullshit.

A little respect and courtesy go a long way to a more civil society.

 

[1sickbastard]

Is it normal procedure for a judge to sentence personal contempt, or should he have referred the matter to another judge for sentence? I'm referring to the flipping of the bird event.

It's normal for a judge to deal with matters of contempt in his/her own courtroom.

However, if one is jailed for contempt and one feels such actions require legal remedy, said proceedings would be presided over by a different judge.

 

[Porkwarrior]

How much decorum are you supposed to have when you just got ripped off for $5k for no reason other than dislike of personal lifestyle and small dick power waving?

Are Florida bail hearings sat on by circuit court judges or appointed JP's (who are nothing but political lackeys)

 

[KRCummings]

You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They're out of order!

 

[KRCummings]

Look, Marge, you don't know what it's like. I'm the one out there every day putting his ass on the line. And I'm not out of order! You're out of order. The whole freaking system is out of order. You want the truth? You want the truth?! You can't handle the truth! 'Cause when you reach over and put your hand into a pile of goo that was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do! Forget it, Marge, it's Chinatown!

 

[1sickbastard]

How much decorum are you supposed to have when you just got ripped off for $5k for no reason other than dislike of personal lifestyle and small dick power waving?

Are Florida bail hearings sat on by circuit court judges or appointed JP's (who are nothing but political lackeys)

As much decorum as needed so as not to make one's situation worse.

Circuit Court Judges are elected officials in Florida

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Is it normal procedure for a judge to sentence personal contempt, or should he have referred the matter to another judge for sentence? I'm referring to the flipping of the bird event.

Firstly, it is important to recognize that this is a matter of criminal contempt, which is defined as "an act of disrespect that impedes the administration of justice."

In those cases where jury trials are not guaranteed, then judges act as the sole trier of fact. This is true whether you are disputing a parking ticket or have stepped over the line into behavior that is properly viewed as displaying contempt for the court. The difference in the latter is that one is actually committing the crime in the very presence of the court who will take note of it, render a decision and impose sentence with what may appear to be blinding speed.

The predominant items at issue in such cases, I would think, would be whether the initial conduct of the contemnor is legally contemptible and whether the court overreacted in its judgment and sentencing. Most judges issue several warnings from the bench before holding someone in contempt.

In the video, the girl has obviously displayed a frivolous attitude to the judge's request for information related to financial assets she might use to retain an attorney or perhaps post bail. We don't know how long the exchange has been going on. I thought the judge may have been a bit harsh in raising her bail in reaction to her flippant "adios" as she turned to leave, but as long as he was within the customary bounds of whatever bail was for her infraction, she has no beef.

The contempt order only took place, and rightly so, with her flipping the bird and uttering the F-bomb.

No matter what excesses the judge may have committed prior to that moment, none would serve to justify her vulgar response. And, no, the simple fact that he imposed sentence for contempt of court would not be an example of "excess." There is no requirement to refer contempt orders to other judges for enforcement or sentencing.

And I have no doubt that that is what her attorney would tell her if she could suspend her stupidity long enough to get one. The second thing he should tell her is that, "you can fight this if you want to, but if you're this fucking clueless about when to keep your mouth shut, I don't think I'll be putting you on the witness stand."

 

[LadyVer]

I watched the video yesterday. I thought it was a good example of teaching personal responsibility, especially for those who think they can act like a smartass in front of the judge who's setting their bail.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

It was done at a bail hearing for a different crime.

The whole issue of contempt is, again, bullshit.

If you do it in front of a judge GAME OVER.

 

[tactful]

Kids, she was just foolin' around, with him, they all do it.
Fuckin' idiot.

 

[1sickbastard]

Kids, she was just foolin' around, with him, they all do it.
Fuckin' idiot.

So what?

There's a time and a place for everything.

The first time the judge warned her he told her she wasn't at a club hanging out with her friends, i.e. not "foolin' around time".

I'll bet the next time she's standing before a judge she acts with a proper amount of respect.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Another stunning victory in The War on Drugs™