Iran

[SpeareChucker]

At this point, what it matter?





But, that is now confirmation for Walter's edification,
that Iran is, indeed, exporting terrorism...

And President Obama helped pay for it.

 

[icanhelp1]

Don't we kind of owe them a pass on them shooting down an unmanned aircraft since we did shoot down a passenger liner with civilians?

Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai, via Bandar Abbas, that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided missile cruiser of the United States Navy. The aircraft, an Airbus A300, was destroyed, and all 290 people on board, including 66 children, were killed.[1] The jet was hit while flying over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, along the flight's usual route, shortly after departing Bandar Abbas International Airport, the flight's stopover location. Vincennes had entered Iranian territory after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits.

wiki

You bring up a very good point. We made every mistake in the book that day and it was a tragic event. The Vincennes was being probed by Iranian gunboats during that period of time and disobeyed orders to disengage and a tragic mistake happened. ROEs were changed after that incident. Maybe Trump was briefed on that incident and decided to stand down rather than engage in military conflict. Just a thought.

 

[DMBFFF]

What America needs is another war in the Middle East. :/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran



[tr][td]countries[/td][td]Iraq[/td][td]Iraq[/td][/tr][tr][td]area[/td][td]437 072 sq km (58th)[/td][td]1 648 195 sq km (17th)[/td][/tr][tr][td]population[/td][td]37 202 572 (36th)[/td][td]82 531 700 (18th)[/td][/tr][tr][td]density[/td][td]82.7/sq km (125th)[/td][td]48/sq km (162nd)[/td][/tr][tr][td]GDP[/td][td]GDP (nominal) 2019 estimate $250.070 billion (48th)[/td][td]GDP (nominal) 2019 estimate $484 billion (27th)[/td][/tr][tr][td]per capita[/td][td]$6,116[/td][td]$5,820[/td][/tr][tr][td]main ethnic group[/td][td]75% to 80% Arabs[/td][td]79% Persians[/td][/tr][tr][td]2nd main ethnic group[/td][td]15% Kurds[/td][td]10% Kurds[/td][/tr][tr][td]main religion[/td][td]55% to 60% Shia[/td][td]90% to 95%[391][392]Shia[/td][/tr][tr][td]2nd main religion[/td][td]40% Sunni[/td][td]About 4% to 8% Sunni, mostly Kurds and Baloches [/td][/tr][tr][td]Christian[/td][td]< 1% (thanks to America's misadventure in the 2000s)[/td][td]0.1566% (2011 census)[/td][/tr][tr][td]geography[/td][td]"Iraq mainly consists of desert"[/td][td]"Iran consists of the Iranian Plateau, with the exception of the coasts of the Caspian Sea and Khuzestan. It is one of the world's most mountainous countries, its landscape dominated by rugged mountain ranges that separate various basins or plateau from one another."[/td][tr][td]when current constitutions came into effect[/td][td]15 October 2005[/td][td]24 October 1979[/td][/tr][/tr]



My prediction? For the most part, Trump will do nothing about Iran, though he might use the issue to con enough votes to win in 2020.

 

[phrodeau]

Is Iran responsible for some acts of terrorism? Sure.

Is Iran developing WMD’s? No, they are not.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Is Iran responsible for some acts of terrorism? Sure.

Is Iran developing WMD’s? No, they are not.

Are you sure of that? https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-military-weapons-of-mass-destruction-germany

 

[Rightguide]

History of Iranian attacks on Americans.

https://www.infoplease.com/world/disasters/man-made/terrorist-attacks-in-the-us-or-against-americans

https://www.aipac.org/-/media/publi...a-history-of-iranian-attacks-on-americans.pdf

 

[Rightguide]

It is being reported the President has called off initial plans for airstrikes against Iran because they weren't proportionate and would have killed 150 people. I guess this shoots down the left's argument about Trump being a warmonger.

 

[Rightguide]

General Jack Keane told Varney this morning the Iranian leadership was irate with the tactical commander who launched the attack on the drone. Remember Trump's initial reaction was that it was an overzealous commander doing something stupid. This doesn't mean he isn't going to retaliate in some way.

 

[phrodeau]

Are you sure of that? https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-military-weapons-of-mass-destruction-germany

Someone’s beating a drum.

 

[DMBFFF]

History of Iranian attacks on Americans.

or support of proxies, and apparently none on American soil.

It is being reported the President has called off initial plans for airstrikes against Iran because they weren't proportionate and would have killed 150 people. I guess this shoots down the left's argument about Trump being a warmonger.

I didn't argue that. Indeed, Trump might be the most pacifist GOP president since Hoover.

I figure his reason for not attacking Iran is it'd escalate things to something even Trump wouldn't want.

 

[Adre]

Trump this week formally kicked off his reelection campaign amid sagging poll numbers, an ironic coincidence given that his past tweets predicted in 2011 that President Barack Obama would bomb Iran to raise his own ratings and win reelection.

When the 2012 election came and went and Obama didn’t attack Iran, Trump continued to make the same prediction, shifting the reasons to “save face” or “show how tough he is.”

-HuffPost

There’s a tweet for every reason, every season.

 

[Rightguide]

Trump this week formally kicked off his reelection campaign amid sagging poll numbers, an ironic coincidence given that his past tweets predicted in 2011 that President Barack Obama would bomb Iran to raise his own ratings and win reelection.

When the 2012 election came and went and Obama didn’t attack Iran, Trump continued to make the same prediction, shifting the reasons to “save face” or “show how tough he is.”

-HuffPost

There’s a tweet for every reason, every season.

Trump has already shown his courage by attacking Syria twice.

Trump numbers are growing and him raising almost 25 million in less than 24 hours says a lot.

See the USA Today Suffolk Poll:

But the USA Today/Suffolk University survey showed 49 percent of Americans approving of the job Trump’s doing as president, with 48 percent giving him a thumbs down.

That’s a more positive showing for Trump compared with other recent polling of his presidential approval rating.

And in the new survey, 49 percent of voters predicted Trump would win re-election, with 38 percent pointing to a victory by the eventual Democratic presidential nominee. Further, the poll indicated that if the November 2020 general election were held today, the president would narrowly edge an unnamed Democratic nominee -- 40-37 percent, with 9 percent supporting an unnamed third-party candidate and 14 percent undecided.


https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suf...hash=0A8B98E4C936874B91CECF3F3B51939D5D9E8D9E

 

[Luk]

It is being reported the President has called off initial plans for airstrikes against Iran because they weren't proportionate and would have killed 150 people. I guess this shoots down the left's argument about Trump being a warmonger.

45 changes his mind more than you talk about man asshole.

 

[Adre]

Trump has already shown his courage by attacking Syria twice.

Trump numbers are growing and him raising almost 25 million in less than 24 hours says a lot.

He’s in deep shit in swing states, no matter how you spin it. Courage? He lobbed a few bombs on a runway, which was rebuilt and back in use in days. And besides, what’s courageous about telling someone else to drop a bomb ten thousand miles from where you are? You set a mighty low bar for courage.

 

[Luk]

Trump has already shown his courage by attacking Syria twice.

Trump numbers are growing and him raising almost 25 million in less than 24 hours says a lot.

See the USA Today Suffolk Poll:

But the USA Today/Suffolk University survey showed 49 percent of Americans approving of the job Trump’s doing as president, with 48 percent giving him a thumbs down.

That’s a more positive showing for Trump compared with other recent polling of his presidential approval rating.

And in the new survey, 49 percent of voters predicted Trump would win re-election, with 38 percent pointing to a victory by the eventual Democratic presidential nominee. Further, the poll indicated that if the November 2020 general election were held today, the president would narrowly edge an unnamed Democratic nominee -- 40-37 percent, with 9 percent supporting an unnamed third-party candidate and 14 percent undecided.


https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suf...hash=0A8B98E4C936874B91CECF3F3B51939D5D9E8D9E

45's own polls show him losing hugely, vettebitch.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It is being reported the President has called off initial plans for airstrikes against Iran because they weren't proportionate and would have killed 150 people. I guess this shoots down the left's argument about Trump being a warmonger.

They said that because they know there's naive fools like you who will believe it and repeat it as gospel.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpj6grFIe1qcaomb.gif

 

[phrodeau]

It is being reported the President has called off initial plans for airstrikes against Iran because they weren't proportionate and would have killed 150 people. I guess this shoots down the left's argument about Trump being a warmonger.

It bolsters the argument that Trump is a loose cannon. Warmonger, peacenik, what will he be an hour from now?

 

[silver gurl]

It is being reported the President has called off initial plans for airstrikes against Iran because they weren't proportionate and would have killed 150 people. I guess this shoots down the left's argument about Trump being a warmonger.

No, it is typical Trump. Running his mouth before looking at a situation. That is what Trump does. Over and over again

 

[icanhelp1]

It bolsters the argument that Trump is a loose cannon. Warmonger, peacenik, what will he be an hour from now?

I truly hope that in an hour from now he'll revert back to being a loose cannon, warmonger bomber and drop a fucking bunker buster right on your fucking house with you in it.

 

[icanhelp1]

No, it is typical Trump. Running his mouth before looking at a situation. That is what Trump does. Over and over again

You're the one not looking at the situation. If this would have been Obama we would've lost a carrier already.

 

[icanhelp1]

They said that because they know there's naive fools like you who will believe it and repeat it as gospel.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpj6grFIe1qcaomb.gif

Can you dispute what was said. Do you know why he made the decision he made? Maybe the IRPG was moving innocent women and children to the target sites willing to sacrifice their own citizens to create a international incident. Loud mouths like you don't use reason, you just spout off more Trump hatred. When you have nothing just blame Trump, if you only knew how stupid you look.

 

[KeithD]

They said that because they know there's naive fools like you who will believe it and repeat it as gospel.

Absolutely right. Taking advantage of one circumstance to serve another need. Neither Trump nor anyone else in his "administration" has an ounce of credibility. His earlier statements offered the incident up as a rogue individual action unintended by the Iranian government. He was fishing for a simple apology agreeing to that basis, knowing he doesn't want a war and figuring the Iranian government doesn't want one either. The "I thought about 150 dead people" rings hollow coming from Trump or anyone else around him.

That said, it is one of the better moves his incompetent people can be making at this point, so that's good for now--as long as people don't swallow his crap on why he called the strike off.

 

[phrodeau]

I truly hope that in an hour from now he'll revert back to being a loose cannon, warmonger bomber and drop a fucking bunker buster right on your fucking house with you in it.

How deplorable. You should seek help.

 

[icanhelp1]

Absolutely right. Taking advantage of one circumstance to serve another need. Neither Trump nor anyone else in his "administration" has an ounce of credibility. His earlier statements offered the incident up as a rogue individual action unintended by the Iranian government. He was fishing for a simple apology agreeing to that basis, knowing he doesn't want a war and figuring the Iranian government doesn't want one either. The "I thought about 150 dead people" rings hollow coming from Trump or anyone else around him.

That said, it is one of the better moves his incompetent people can be making at this point, so that's good for now--as long as people don't swallow his crap on why he called the strike off.

Hillary would've just press the reset button.

 

[Rightguide]

No, it is typical Trump. Running his mouth before looking at a situation. That is what Trump does. Over and over again

That's disingenuous BS, SG. I know you hate the President but that isn't true.