I hope McDonalds people get $15/hr

[dan_c00000]

What kind of company do you own/run Jen?

It gives away its writing for free on the internet. Its job is socialism!

 

[Liar]

Yes, Laurel, as I can discern in this post is being a simpleton. Is she a simpleton all the time? I don't know. Here's why I call this post as evidence of her being a simpleton.

Most of the arguments for wage increase pre-suppose one thing. That companies will exist and continue to exist profitably. To that point, she argues that its ok for company's costs to increase and increasing costs will not put them out of business. This is the main fallacy of all arguments like Laurel's. And then she argues that companies need government intervention to stay healthy in the long run, which is a circular and contradictory to the first argument. To the second point, Laurel argues that no one will buy a company's products if they don't increase their employees' wages. Why don't you leave that for the companies to decide? You think the government is smarter than companies about what is good for them? It has been tried before - it was called communism. The government with all good intentions tried to get involved in what a company should produce, what price they should sell it for, and how much they should pay the employees. It didn't work. It failed miserably.

I know what her response will be -- "well let's not talk about extreme situations here. I'm only talking about a small wage increase". What is small? Where do you draw the line?

Here's my response: If not letting the companies mooch of the taxpayer's dime with a welfare subsidized workforce like they do now, mean that those companies go out of business, then GOOD. They depend on an unsound business model and deserve to go titsup. In the short term this will mean some ppl gets laid off, but in the long run it will be healthy both for the market and the general workforce once lowest-wage employers starts payng the actual cost for labor like they should in a free market.

 

[jeninflorida]

It gives away its writing for free on the internet. Its job is socialism!

There are those of us that get up in the morning and make things happen...


Then there is your kind that stumbles out of bed at noon and lie on their back to allow things to happen to them!

Summy:
Dan and those like him are bitches owned by the world

 

[jeninflorida]

Good post! When will it end!

Yes, Laurel, as I can discern in this post is being a simpleton. Is she a simpleton all the time? I don't know. Here's why I call this post as evidence of her being a simpleton.

Most of the arguments for wage increase pre-suppose one thing. That companies will exist and continue to exist profitably. To that point, she argues that its ok for company's costs to increase and increasing costs will not put them out of business. This is the main fallacy of all arguments like Laurel's. And then she argues that companies need government intervention to stay healthy in the long run, which is a circular and contradictory to the first argument. To the second point, Laurel argues that no one will buy a company's products if they don't increase their employees' wages. Why don't you leave that for the companies to decide? You think the government is smarter than companies about what is good for them? It has been tried before - it was called communism. The government with all good intentions tried to get involved in what a company should produce, what price they should sell it for, and how much they should pay the employees. It didn't work. It failed miserably.

I know what her response will be -- "well let's not talk about extreme situations here. I'm only talking about a small wage increase". What is small? Where do you draw the line?

 

[jeninflorida]

Here's my response: If not letting the companies mooch of the taxpayer's dime with a welfare subsidized workforce like they do now, mean that those companies go out of business, then GOOD. They depend on an unsound business model and deserve to go titsup. In the short term this will mean some ppl gets laid off, but in the long run it will be healthy both for the market and the general workforce once lowest-wage employers starts payng the actual cost for labor like they should in a free market.

Socialist pile of derp!

If Google doesnt pay their people what they are worth then they need to jump ship.

People must be paid what they are worth...and market conditions

 

[dan_c00000]

Do they ever read the articles that bolster their main premise?

I'll bet that flawed study of municipalities has even been dusted off despite reaching the opposite conclusion of what these economic socialists/interventionists think it does.

It also does not go into what the other mandated costs and taxes are so that we are not comparing apples to apples.

You might want to re-read your cherry picked quote. Here I'll do the work for you since you clearly can't read:

But as the international market shows, the models are out there. It would certainly mean more expensive burgers. It would almost definitely mean fewer workers, as restaurants found ways to streamline their staffs, either through better management or technology. And it might mean fewer chains catering to the bottom of the market.

Of course there could be a loss of jobs, however, by making companies pay a fair wage less people will be forced to do stuff like this, or this, and this.

Of course you seem to lack the ability to find other sources so I've done that for you as well. Most studies show that raising the minimum wage won't reduce employment.

So you want to take another crack it or just give up?

 

[daddy4romance]

Here's my response: If not letting the companies mooch of the taxpayer's dime with a welfare subsidized workforce like they do now, mean that those companies go out of business, then GOOD. They depend on an unsound business model and deserve to go titsup. In the short term this will mean some ppl gets laid off, but in the long run it will be healthy both for the market and the general workforce once lowest-wage employers starts payng the actual cost for labor like they should in a free market.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Get rid of welfare to address the problem of "mooching off welfare subsidized workforce". Don't try to do more government planning to fix problems caused by previous planning.

 

[jeninflorida]

The obama kind will not fix things....

We must force obana and family, harrie reid to go on obamaxare!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Who cares!

Sounds like a government dole sucking socialist to me....

 

[jeninflorida]

When did your kind strive to be so low?

When did wal mart /mcdonadls become "careers"

Screw welfare, get a 2nd job

 

[BotanyBoy]

When did your kind strive to be so low?

When did wal mart /mcdonadls become "careers"

Screw welfare, get a 2nd job

Irrelevant.....socialist companies are gouging the tax payer for labor subsidies.

Why do you keep defending that shit?

Are you going to make them cover the cost of having employees and doing business?

or

Are you going to keep supporting their abuse of the welfare system, subsidizing their labor cost via min wage<->welfare laws ?

And again not a single republican on the board will answer that shit b/c it the only way it says in your bullshit narrative is to admit what corporate dick suckers you actually are.

http://totemz.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/purepwnage.jpg

 

[contrifan32]

Irrelevant.....socialist companies are gouging the tax payer for labor subsidies.

Why do you keep defending that shit?

Are you going to make them cover the cost of having employees and doing business?

or

Are you going to keep supporting their abuse of the welfare system, subsidizing their labor cost via min wage<->welfare laws ?

And again not a single republican on the board will answer that shit b/c it the only way it says in your bullshit narrative is to admit what corporate dick suckers you actually are.

That must be some really good dope your smokin'... your shits all fucked up.

 

[Liar]

Two wrongs don't make a right. Get rid of welfare to address the problem of "mooching off welfare subsidized workforce". Don't try to do more government planning to fix problems caused by previous planning.

Fair enough. If you are ready to scrap the social contract that says we don't let those that really can't support themselves die in a damp ditch.

I say we don't get rid of welfare, just make anyone who has employment ineligble for it. Any of it.

Labor like all services has a minimum price - the cost of production. The cost of production is the money a laborer have to spend in order to be able to do the job.

Let me dumb it down for you. Say you have a company. It makes bicycles. You buy tires from the cheapest available supplier. It costs the supplier $3 to make one tire. Your business rely on buying tires for $1. If you can't buy tires for a buck, your business fails. Does your business deserve to not fail?

 

[jeninflorida]

Im sorry but is there a reason to respond to your liberal dribble?

Irrelevant.....socialist companies are gouging the tax payer for labor subsidies.

Why do you keep defending that shit?

Are you going to make them cover the cost of having employees and doing business?

or

Are you going to keep supporting their abuse of the welfare system, subsidizing their labor cost via min wage<->welfare laws ?

And again not a single republican on the board will answer that shit b/c it the only way it says in your bullshit narrative is to admit what corporate dick suckers you actually are.

http://totemz.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/purepwnage.jpg

 

[Liar]

Im sorry but is there a reason to respond to your liberal dribble?

Not for you, uinless you enjoy getting stomped with logic.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That must be some really good dope your smokin'... your shits all fucked up.

Well how do you propose we stop these companies from relying on public assistance to feed their employees?

Seriously what other option do you see? Unless you too support these companies handing out food stamp applications to their new employees.....

Im sorry but is there a reason to respond to your liberal dribble?

LOL you couldn't if you tried...because you got fucking owned, that's why you refuse to take a position on the issue and instead rant about irrelevant shit.

Are you a lock step hack republican voting in favor of corporate welfare?

Or are you in favor of making the companies pay their employees above the level that they qualify for welfare??

Which one is it?

 

[unregistered]

 

[BotanyBoy]

Best you can do is state your case.

RUN YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU GROW A PAIR BITCH.

You refuse to give a direct answer or even take a stance on the issue you spineless fucking worm. You know it would break your lock step republicanism to say anything that didn't make you look like the corporate dick sucker you are.

Wouldn't answer then and you won't answer now you fucking coward.

How do you suggest we stop companies TODAY from gouging the tax payer by using min wage to keep their employees on public assistance??

HMMMM??

That's right...tuck tail and run bitch.

 

[Liar]

Seriously Bot, I think it's time to...

http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/05/colbert_mic_drop-52522.gif

...right about now.

Leave the people who want their tax money to funnel into McD's profit margin to their derpfest.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Seriously Bot, I think it's time to...

http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/05/colbert_mic_drop-52522.gif

...right about now.

Leave the people who want their tax money to funnel into McD's profit margin to their derpfest.

lulz well on the bright side a good chunk of them are going to die in the next 10 years or so......

 

[jeninflorida]

Seriously Bot, I think it's time to...

http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/05/colbert_mic_drop-52522.gif

...right about now.

Leave the people who want their tax money to funnel into McD's profit margin to their derpfest.

No...welfare and the pension system both need to be terminated

 

[BotanyBoy]

No...welfare and the pension system both need to be terminated

Meanwhile back in reality.........

 

[Skiddles2014]

I hope you get the raise Jen, then maybe you'll clean your rotten twat.

 

[jeninflorida]

Meanwhile back in reality.........

You should try reality and free thinking some time. Put diwn the obana juice and turn off msnbc tbem join us in the real world

 

[BotanyBoy]

You should try reality and free thinking some time. Put diwn the obana juice and turn off msnbc tbem join us in the real world

You keep cheering that corporate welfare all you want but you and everyone else knows it's true, that's why you have refused for pages to answer the simple question:

Do you support companies using min wage law to subsidize their labor force via public assistance?


It's a simple yes or no question, even vette knew better,tucked tail and ran just like you will keep dancing around it, because you know I'm right .

Put down the Limbaugh juices...turn of FOX and join us in the real world.