How do you help someone get over being abused

kikmosa said:
I guess I need to cut portions again, lol.

Hope everyone is doing well. :rose:

KIKI the new you is doing fantastic & your health issues will also benifit in the long run just make sure your getting levels close to right & be happy.

P.S. would love a pic to ad to my Kiki collection. ;) one of my favorites is the smiling one. :D
 
Wow...lots of familiar faces to a lurker :)

I found myself drawn back to the thread after so long -- lots of people healing, both physically and emotionally. Hope this finds everyone in good health and good moods.

And, Gil, I'm so proud of you for your non-smoking. I wish I could say that I stuck with it, but here I am, 20 lbs and 4 attempts later ... meh. I feel like a mess all around.

Plans are in place -- I'm getting back in school full time this fall after 10+ years of being out. I took a class this spring and it was very, very good for me. Going towards a teaching degree. Hopefully, then, a master's in philosophy. I'm becoming (all in very small degrees) more social ... I even took a chance in December and met someone wonderful, but I've only seen him twice since then.

But lately...there is so much going on that my head is spinning. A man I knew for 5 years, a great friend, has lately become obsessive and controlling. At least I was able to tell him that I choose not to be talked to/treated that way...but damn. After 5 years? There I go, doubting my judgment and my choices in whom I trust.

Work is gearing up, too. I was chosen (meh) to do a job that requires being in a very small room, much like the one I was in when I was attacked at work. I didn't make the connection instantly, but told them I was claustrophobic (a fairly new onset -- something else I didn't make the connection with til afterwards) ... they made me train in the room anyway, basically threatening insubordination. I had trouble breathing, but I made it through the night at work. I went home and was violently ill, and had panic attacks for the first time in a long, long time.

So I went to my supervisor and told her that I simply couldn't do it. I am a damn good employee -- I work, I show up sick and tired and I work when I show up, unlike the clock riders I work with. And that if she wanted to write me up, so be it, but there was some information she needed to be aware of. I told her about the attack, how my manager didn't care, and how I was at this point more angry with my cunt-all manager than I was with the drunk bastard that trapped me. I told her I went to a class that was offered by the hospital -- Non Violent Crises Intervention, and it didn't do anything. I told her I went to counseling, which was horrible in itself, and that didn't do anything.

And I'm pissed again. I'm pissed that this hasn't been dealt with. I thought it was, that I was over it. I'm pissed that I am judged to be a bad employee because of being forced to do something that other people aren't.

And I'm pissed because I sound so damn whiny.

*sigh*
 
Lyrical Fool said:
Wow...lots of familiar faces to a lurker :)

I found myself drawn back to the thread after so long -- lots of people healing, both physically and emotionally. Hope this finds everyone in good health and good moods.

And, Gil, I'm so proud of you for your non-smoking. I wish I could say that I stuck with it, but here I am, 20 lbs and 4 attempts later ... meh. I feel like a mess all around.

Plans are in place -- I'm getting back in school full time this fall after 10+ years of being out. I took a class this spring and it was very, very good for me. Going towards a teaching degree. Hopefully, then, a master's in philosophy. I'm becoming (all in very small degrees) more social ... I even took a chance in December and met someone wonderful, but I've only seen him twice since then.

But lately...there is so much going on that my head is spinning. A man I knew for 5 years, a great friend, has lately become obsessive and controlling. At least I was able to tell him that I choose not to be talked to/treated that way...but damn. After 5 years? There I go, doubting my judgment and my choices in whom I trust.

Work is gearing up, too. I was chosen (meh) to do a job that requires being in a very small room, much like the one I was in when I was attacked at work. I didn't make the connection instantly, but told them I was claustrophobic (a fairly new onset -- something else I didn't make the connection with til afterwards) ... they made me train in the room anyway, basically threatening insubordination. I had trouble breathing, but I made it through the night at work. I went home and was violently ill, and had panic attacks for the first time in a long, long time.

So I went to my supervisor and told her that I simply couldn't do it. I am a damn good employee -- I work, I show up sick and tired and I work when I show up, unlike the clock riders I work with. And that if she wanted to write me up, so be it, but there was some information she needed to be aware of. I told her about the attack, how my manager didn't care, and how I was at this point more angry with my cunt-all manager than I was with the drunk bastard that trapped me. I told her I went to a class that was offered by the hospital -- Non Violent Crises Intervention, and it didn't do anything. I told her I went to counseling, which was horrible in itself, and that didn't do anything.

And I'm pissed again. I'm pissed that this hasn't been dealt with. I thought it was, that I was over it. I'm pissed that I am judged to be a bad employee because of being forced to do something that other people aren't.

And I'm pissed because I sound so damn whiny.

*sigh*
WHOA, stop it right there. First off, you are not being whiny. You are expressing anger and that's good for you. You have been through a tramatic experience and it's natural for things that remind you of it to give you problems.

Second, if your insensitive prick of a manager tries to give you a hassle like that again you threaten him (or her) with charges of emotional abuse. And follow through. And claustrophobia is a serious problem that managers are supposed to make allowences for. That would be mental abuse. If you've been diagnosed with it and they force you to work in a place that will trigger it or lose your job, that's harrasment. OSHA guarantees all workers a safe and healthy work enviroment and that includes mental health.

Third, some friend. Sounds like he's jealous to me. Set boundries and if he crosses them say goodbye. I know it's not easy but sometimes you have to do it. Better a little pain now then a lot of pain latter. As for your choices, Hun, we all look back and ask ourselves why, how, and many other questions. Reality is that we all make mistakes, but we have to get past them and not dwell on them to the point of them ruling our lives. We can't see the future and we can't predict how people are going to change. All we can do is judge on what we know right now and make the best choice we can.

We can't live in yesterday, we can't live in tomorrow, all we can do is live in today. It's taken me a long time to realize this but it's how I need to live now. I can't move forward as long as I'm chained to the past.

I don't know if any of this will help you, I hope so. And never think your being whiny. We all need to get things off our chests now and then. That's what this place is for. So rant, rave and lose control. We all understand and have been there. :rose: ((((((((((Lyrical Fool))))))))))
 
Lyrical Fool said:
Wow...lots of familiar faces to a lurker :)

I found myself drawn back to the thread after so long -- lots of people healing, both physically and emotionally. Hope this finds everyone in good health and good moods.

And, Gil, I'm so proud of you for your non-smoking. I wish I could say that I stuck with it, but here I am, 20 lbs and 4 attempts later ... meh. I feel like a mess all around.

Plans are in place -- I'm getting back in school full time this fall after 10+ years of being out. I took a class this spring and it was very, very good for me. Going towards a teaching degree. Hopefully, then, a master's in philosophy. I'm becoming (all in very small degrees) more social ... I even took a chance in December and met someone wonderful, but I've only seen him twice since then.

But lately...there is so much going on that my head is spinning. A man I knew for 5 years, a great friend, has lately become obsessive and controlling. At least I was able to tell him that I choose not to be talked to/treated that way...but damn. After 5 years? There I go, doubting my judgment and my choices in whom I trust.

Work is gearing up, too. I was chosen (meh) to do a job that requires being in a very small room, much like the one I was in when I was attacked at work. I didn't make the connection instantly, but told them I was claustrophobic (a fairly new onset -- something else I didn't make the connection with til afterwards) ... they made me train in the room anyway, basically threatening insubordination. I had trouble breathing, but I made it through the night at work. I went home and was violently ill, and had panic attacks for the first time in a long, long time.

So I went to my supervisor and told her that I simply couldn't do it. I am a damn good employee -- I work, I show up sick and tired and I work when I show up, unlike the clock riders I work with. And that if she wanted to write me up, so be it, but there was some information she needed to be aware of. I told her about the attack, how my manager didn't care, and how I was at this point more angry with my cunt-all manager than I was with the drunk bastard that trapped me. I told her I went to a class that was offered by the hospital -- Non Violent Crises Intervention, and it didn't do anything. I told her I went to counseling, which was horrible in itself, and that didn't do anything.

And I'm pissed again. I'm pissed that this hasn't been dealt with. I thought it was, that I was over it. I'm pissed that I am judged to be a bad employee because of being forced to do something that other people aren't.

And I'm pissed because I sound so damn whiny.

*sigh*

I was going to offer all sorts of stuff here-but kiki said pretty much what i was going to so i wont! I will emphasize tho you are not being whiny-you are being open in a thread that encourages being open. It's not whining, it's just letting out some frustration! and if you feel better for it then the threads serving it's purpose. (((((((((((((((((((((lyrical)))))))))))))))))))))))))-hope things get better!
 
kikmosa said:
WHOA, stop it right there. First off, you are not being whiny. You are expressing anger and that's good for you. You have been through a tramatic experience and it's natural for things that remind you of it to give you problems.

Second, if your insensitive prick of a manager tries to give you a hassle like that again you threaten him (or her) with charges of emotional abuse. And follow through. And claustrophobia is a serious problem that managers are supposed to make allowences for. That would be mental abuse. If you've been diagnosed with it and they force you to work in a place that will trigger it or lose your job, that's harrasment. OSHA guarantees all workers a safe and healthy work enviroment and that includes mental health.

Third, some friend. Sounds like he's jealous to me. Set boundries and if he crosses them say goodbye. I know it's not easy but sometimes you have to do it. Better a little pain now then a lot of pain latter. As for your choices, Hun, we all look back and ask ourselves why, how, and many other questions. Reality is that we all make mistakes, but we have to get past them and not dwell on them to the point of them ruling our lives. We can't see the future and we can't predict how people are going to change. All we can do is judge on what we know right now and make the best choice we can.

We can't live in yesterday, we can't live in tomorrow, all we can do is live in today. It's taken me a long time to realize this but it's how I need to live now. I can't move forward as long as I'm chained to the past.

I don't know if any of this will help you, I hope so. And never think your being whiny. We all need to get things off our chests now and then. That's what this place is for. So rant, rave and lose control. We all understand and have been there. :rose: ((((((((((Lyrical Fool))))))))))

heheheheh . . . you were correct Gil ;) :D . . . that Kiki is a fiesty one!!! :nana: :devil: :nana:
 
Forgot to mention-my mothers surgery last monday which some of you knew about. saw her briefly last night-she's well. I still have no idea how much bowel they removed but i do know while they were playing in there they took her gall bladder as well-no idea why as my family very rarely tells me this sort of stuff-i'm surprised i was told it was happening at all. Anyway-looks like she'll be round for a while yet which means i dont have to spend hours trying to think of something nice to say at her funeral. I assume the operation was a success as far as removing the cancer goes-I haven't been told that either.
and i still really have no feelings on the whole subject
 
Don K Dyck said:
heheheheh . . . you were correct Gil ;) :D . . . that Kiki is a fiesty one!!! :nana: :devil: :nana:

i wouldn't say fiesty but a wonderful lady who has discovered what we knew about her . :nana: :nana: :D
 
mortalwombat said:
Forgot to mention-my mothers surgery last monday which some of you knew about. saw her briefly last night-she's well. I still have no idea how much bowel they removed but i do know while they were playing in there they took her gall bladder as well-no idea why as my family very rarely tells me this sort of stuff-i'm surprised i was told it was happening at all. Anyway-looks like she'll be round for a while yet which means i dont have to spend hours trying to think of something nice to say at her funeral. I assume the operation was a success as far as removing the cancer goes-I haven't been told that either.
and i still really have no feelings on the whole subject

i do know a bit about what has passed in your life Wombat but you could have asked :confused:
 
Gil_T2 said:
i do know a bit about what has passed in your life Wombat but you could have asked :confused:
yes i could have-i did think of it and i actually did ask my brother but he didn't know either. I wasn't going to ask her when i saw her before surgery as i knew she was trying not to think about it, last night i wasn't there long-about 45 minutes, and i didn't bring it up because of the presense of her boyfriend who i have trouble being in the same room as. you know the type of person that makes you want to shower straight after being with them? he's one of them, comes across as being really sleazy. no idea why-i cant put my finger on it. Whats really odd is his son and i were pretty good friends many years ago. I will find out all the mother details but it might take some time. After all this is the woman who told me about a family reunion in tasmania 3 weeks after it happened!
 
mortalwombat said:
yes i could have-i did think of it and i actually did ask my brother but he didn't know either. I wasn't going to ask her when i saw her before surgery as i knew she was trying not to think about it, last night i wasn't there long-about 45 minutes, and i didn't bring it up because of the presense of her boyfriend who i have trouble being in the same room as. you know the type of person that makes you want to shower straight after being with them? he's one of them, comes across as being really sleazy. no idea why-i cant put my finger on it. Whats really odd is his son and i were pretty good friends many years ago. I will find out all the mother details but it might take some time. After all this is the woman who told me about a family reunion in tasmania 3 weeks after it happened!

the surgery notes will be easy to find or even ask the nursing staff you don't even need to ask her & yes do know what you mean about your mum's B/F as several friends have similar sadly they do not see it yet. :rolleyes:
 
Gil_T2 said:
the surgery notes will be easy to find or even ask the nursing staff you don't even need to ask her & yes do know what you mean about your mum's B/F as several friends have similar sadly they do not see it yet. :rolleyes:
you know i never even thought of asking the staff! or looking at the notes
 
mortalwombat said:
you know i never even thought of asking the staff! or looking at the notes

when i'm in hospital BANDIT :heart: always gives me a kiss then grabs the notes & if something she dosen't know or has question on she grabs staff to explain which is great for me as i don't give a damn as long as i get out ASAP (hate the place), i am blessed to have her love. :rose:
 
apastromance said:
I've read many pages of this thread, and it has helped a lot during a number of bad times. My heart goes out to all of you. Thank you.

The one thing I never got was real closure. Because of the nature of the man I was in love with, I learned that it would never come mutually. It had to come from within myself. And that's been difficult because of my own neuroses. It takes two to tango. Not an easy thing to face. But easier than what he faces. I'd like my last words to him, should he ever choose to read them, to be less angry than the ones I chose before.

So Gil, I hope you don't mind too much if I post a letter of closure here. I'll only make one post; it won't take up too much space, but it's the only place I could think of that was appropriate. You needn't reply. I can't come back here to read answers.

God bless you.

* * *

SNIP

And all of it now, just a last prayer on the wind.

Hi Apastromance . . . sometimes we have to fold up our tents and move on to a new camp site . . . it is hard without doubt . . .

. . .but there is always the future that YOU want to create for YOURSELF . . . ;)

{{{{{{{ :kiss: Apastromance :kiss: }}}}}}}

Take care and come back when you need to . . . :rose: :kiss: :rose:
 
(((apastromance)))

great letter, reading it I realized I could have written parts of it too.
 
Don K Dyck said:
Hi Apastromance . . . sometimes we have to fold up our tents and move on to a new camp site . . . it is hard without doubt . . .

. . .but there is always the future that YOU want to create for YOURSELF . . . ;)

{{{{{{{ :kiss: Apastromance :kiss: }}}}}}}

Take care and come back when you need to . . . :rose: :kiss: :rose:

Ditto what Don said. :rose:
 
I havent dropped in here for some time and only read back a few pages.

Some mention of coldness of themselves or unto others, even family. The coldness each mentioned was due to what others did to yourself and safety mechanisms. Each are natural reactions to each situation and doesnt make you some kind of freak or less of a person... it makes you as you are, some one real !

It also makes you some one whom is coping as best they can... a survivor.

If you are indifferent to family because of what they have done to you then dont fault yourself in this. "Blood doesnt make a family... love does", millions of adopted children, orphans and those of broken homes find this special family love proving this to be so every day. It is also apparent herein with how so wonderfully many treat and share with each other, each a member of a special family sharing in the best of ways... from the heart.

I wish each of you great happiness, healing and hearts peace :)

( Hugs for those whom wish, and honored silent moments for those whom dont )
 
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Hi to all.

Sorry I haven't been on lately, haven't been feeling very well for a bit. I keep getting a repeating virus or something. Everytime I think I've gotten rid of it here it comes again. Oh well, I'm sure it'll pass.

Hope everyone is doing well. Leaving (((((hugs))))) and :kiss: 's for all who want one. Properly sterilized ones so I won't pass this damn bug to anyone else, lol.
 
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