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Brinnie said:you cannot directly help anyone, they have to have the will to help themselves...
You can inspire them, but that's it.
Brinnie said:you cannot directly help anyone, they have to have the will to help themselves...
You can inspire them, but that's it.

wicked woman said:Gil and Don...you've both been kind...taking the pink comment seriously. While everyone is entitled to their opinion...the pink is making a reputation for herself of being fluff...working her way through a number of 'ignore' buttons. I'd take her comments with a grain of salt. Clearly this thread has done untold good.
btw you're looking very spiffy Gil....congrats to you and Bandit...that's absolutely wonderful.![]()
we are so happy but also sad that so many friends we have made here on LIT won't be able to join us but you & all of them will be with us in our thoughts.Gil_T2 said:HI WWwe are so happy but also sad that so many friends we have made here on LIT won't be able to join us but you & all of them will be with us in our thoughts.
There should be some reports on the wedding from some of the AUSSIE LIT freinds who we hope attend.
HypnoticDreams said:Wow this has been going on for awhile about the abuse. I know that I've been through alot in the past. Has it helped anyone in the end or do you find it a place just to rant about your confusions or both? I am just curious![]()
HypnoticDreams said:Wow this has been going on for awhile about the abuse. I know that I've been through alot in the past. Has it helped anyone in the end or do you find it a place just to rant about your confusions or both? I am just curious![]()

Don K Dyck said:Hi Ginger grl,
Thanks for the inspiring post . . . the breaking away is just the first step, and personal growth is not a static thing, it continues on throughout all of life . . .
But you make so many important points . . .
1. deciding to stop being a victim;
2. dreaming of a better future despite your reality;
3. choosing to make those dreams become your reality, as only each of us knows how;
4. then, as the television show says, "know one, train one" . . . reaching out to inspire others to make the effort to be happy by taking charge of their own lives, and living for themselves without excuses . . .
There is NEVER any excuse for physical or mental abuse . . . EVER!!
Every person has a right to personal safety, a secure relationship and happiness . . . we achieve these things by dreaming, making choices and working to achieve our goals . . .![]()
Thank you for the inspiration . . .![]()
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Ginger_grl said:Thank you and very eloquently put, you've just said what I wanted to, but better...LOL
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curious dom said:hey mate, it is a shame, but yes it happens in over 38% of relationships. That is only physical abuse.
Emotional abuse is higher, but not reported as much even though it still constitutes a breach of human rights.
there is a big focus on studying the huiman mind's adaptive capabilities to abuse over long periods, and why ppl cannot recover,.
Unfortunately most ppl who are victims, or perpetrators of abuse had an abusvie childhood, which can give them a latent vunerability to develp more serious issues, esp in regards to self confidence later in life. Stress is usually the cause of the vunerability to excuse itself from the mind and become apparent. This usually happens after the abuse, or at the end stage of an abusive relationship.
There is a lot of research into counselling techniques on the web, and a lot of free services provided for ppl who want help from this sort of predicament.
Brinnie said:you cannot directly help anyone, they have to have the will to help themselves...
You can inspire them, but that's it.
sweet_marie said:I would really like to say how dare you...if you understood fully, you would know that before one can have the will to help themselves, you have to be confident. And it is a very well known fact that a victim/survivor typcially has precious little confidence, in themselves or human beings in general. There is only distrust and hate...
But Inspiration...that is here in spades....the product of which is the very thing that indeed helps someone recover, gain their confidence again and help in the growth/reconciliation/healing process. Call it faith, call it motivation, call it sharing...its support and it fellowship and its sharing. Its knowing that you're not alone, that you aren't specially picked out to get crapped on. Its knowing that someone else knows what you are saying when you can't get the words out right. Its being looked upon with compassion and soothed with intelligent kind words rather than pity and condescending politically correct phrases taken out of a book. From what I have read here, and I have several more pages to go, that is inspiration...Blessings to all of you, and to Gil (happy wedding) and Don.
Marie
has swung all my past thoughts out the window & my life is happier than it ever has been.Mr.Cadillac said:Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum, and I hope that I can gain some insight through it's use. I'm a 32 year old male, and I'm trying to live a normal life.
Growing up, my family treated me as if I was always "in the way" and constantly made it known. My father was never a part of my life until I turned 18, and even then, it seemed like he didn't want me around.
At a very early age, my 1st recollection of abuse was, when I was around 5 years old, I spilled juice on my aunt's now-ex-husband's suit and he hit me so hard I can still recall it happening like it was yesterday.
Also around this period, I was sexually abused by one of my friends who was a bit older than I was. In my teens, I had no self-confidence, and I never dated or had a girlfriend. No-one ever talked to me about girls, or sex, like mostly all teens when they have "the talk". That never happened with me.
Because of this, everyone would tease me & say that I was gay. I didn't have any of those kinds of feelings, and the more I said I wasn't, the more it fueled the fire for people to torment me, so I shut that part of my life down.
When I was 17, an uncle of one of my friends got me alone, got me drunk, and without my consent, performed oral sex on me. He tried to make me do it back, but I didn't like it, and I was in no shape to fight back. That was another crushing blow to my already-dysfunctional sexual attitude towards life. He did it to me again when I was 23 years old at a party when I had way too much to drink, and there were drugs involved.
As the years went by, I still didn't have any sexual desires. When I was 20, an older woman I knew who was going through marriage problems, tried to become intimate with me one night while we were drinking. She performed oral sex on me (I didn't climax), and when I tried to have intercourse with her, I kind of started to have sex with her, but I couldn't perform & we didn't resume further. Does this mean that I had my 1st time?
Later on, in my mid-20's, this guy started hanging around my family. He was a bit older, in his mid-30's, he knew my 2 aunts from school, and we became friends. He was like an older brother in alot of ways, which I didn't have growing up. Whenever I was around him, he was intimidating because he was stronger than I was, and I never learned how to defend myself, due to always being picked on, it was (and still is) easy to intimidate me & push me around, because I don't know how to defend or stand up for myself.
One night, after we had been drinking with buddies of his, he asked me to stay at his place because I didn't have a drive home. He lived with his parents after breaking up with his girlfriend, whom he had a small daughter with. Anyways, I was falling asleep, and he started to touch me sexually. He told me to be quiet or I'd be sorry. He performed oral sex on me until I climaxed, and I was so devastated that this was being done to me. He said if I ever said anything, he would kill me, and I believed him, stupid idiot that I am.
It was hard having him around, where he was a family friend. I was scared that if I said anything, nobody would beieve me. We would all get together at times, and he would be there, and he always manipulated a situation to get me alone, like ask me to drive him home in front of everyone, get me in a spot where I couldn't say no without it looking like something was up.
He would get me alone & do stuff like take my car keys away, and make me do things like perform oral sex on him, then he'd use his strength to hold me down while doing the same to me. A few times, he even forced himself into me by having anal sex with me. That hurt alot, and at times, I still feel pain & irritation in that area.
Today (April 21st) I got the ball rolling to make arrangements to get an AIDS test. I had one done in 1997, and I was fine. The majority of the sexual abuse I endured occurred in 1998-early 1999. I was too scared to get the test done, what if it was positive? how do I go on with my life, knowing I'm going to get worse? What would my friends think? would they turn me away? Those were among the concerns that I had.
It's odd I find, even though I've had no "real" sexual experiences in my life, and I'm still scared to at my age, the odd time, I'll flirt with a girl that I'm talking to. Is that odd? I live with 2 friends, and him & her both know what I'm going through, they are the only ones that I've really opened up to about any of this. I tried seeking profressional help awhile back, but that seemed to backfire on me. Should I just say "to hell with my problems" and just go out & have sex with a girl?
Whenever girls walk by that are attractive, I don't react like other guys, saying things like "oh, I'd love to jump in bed with her" or "she's hot". I don't say anything like that, because in alot of ways, I'm very shy. I feel that I wouldn't stand a chance because I consider myself not very good looking. I feel that I am too old to start dating for the 1st time. I never got the chance when I was a teenager like all other guys. Does this make me ruined for life. Am I damaged goods?
Thank you very much for listening, I just needed to get this out. All my life, sex, to me, was something dirty & was always presented to me as a weapon. I've even attempted suicide on a number of occasions over this, hoping that someday my pain would end. Why did this have to happen? Why couldn't I be stronger?
(my lady love) she too never got the talk, we are older than you & it was an era in which these things just weren't mentioned in most families but you are not alone with this problem.You mentioned about the lady & not being able to perform....this too is common from drink & drugs on top of all else including it being your first possible is feeling intimidated by her in her forwardness or even fear of the unknown.Gil_T2 said:If you read this thread you will see that we have helped ppl & yes they have to want help too but having ppl who care is on important aspect of recovery & that is wht this thread is for.I originally started it to help just one person I had made contact with on LIT who wasn't dealing with life to well & so the thread began but many others have also found this thread a big help in their battle to deal with abuse.Brinnie said:you cannot directly help anyone, they have to have the will to help themselves...
You can inspire them, but that's it.
Mr.Cadillac said:Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum, and I hope that I can gain some insight through it's use. I'm a 32 year old male, and I'm trying to live a normal life.
Growing up, my family treated me as if I was always "in the way" and constantly made it known. My father was never a part of my life until I turned 18, and even then, it seemed like he didn't want me around.
At a very early age, my 1st recollection of abuse was, when I was around 5 years old, I spilled juice on my aunt's now-ex-husband's suit and he hit me so hard I can still recall it happening like it was yesterday.
Also around this period, I was sexually abused by one of my friends who was a bit older than I was. In my teens, I had no self-confidence, and I never dated or had a girlfriend. No-one ever talked to me about girls, or sex, like mostly all teens when they have "the talk". That never happened with me.
Because of this, everyone would tease me & say that I was gay. I didn't have any of those kinds of feelings, and the more I said I wasn't, the more it fueled the fire for people to torment me, so I shut that part of my life down.
When I was 17, an uncle of one of my friends got me alone, got me drunk, and without my consent, performed oral sex on me. He tried to make me do it back, but I didn't like it, and I was in no shape to fight back. That was another crushing blow to my already-dysfunctional sexual attitude towards life. He did it to me again when I was 23 years old at a party when I had way too much to drink, and there were drugs involved.
As the years went by, I still didn't have any sexual desires. When I was 20, an older woman I knew who was going through marriage problems, tried to become intimate with me one night while we were drinking. She performed oral sex on me (I didn't climax), and when I tried to have intercourse with her, I kind of started to have sex with her, but I couldn't perform & we didn't resume further. Does this mean that I had my 1st time?
Later on, in my mid-20's, this guy started hanging around my family. He was a bit older, in his mid-30's, he knew my 2 aunts from school, and we became friends. He was like an older brother in alot of ways, which I didn't have growing up. Whenever I was around him, he was intimidating because he was stronger than I was, and I never learned how to defend myself, due to always being picked on, it was (and still is) easy to intimidate me & push me around, because I don't know how to defend or stand up for myself.
One night, after we had been drinking with buddies of his, he asked me to stay at his place because I didn't have a drive home. He lived with his parents after breaking up with his girlfriend, whom he had a small daughter with. Anyways, I was falling asleep, and he started to touch me sexually. He told me to be quiet or I'd be sorry. He performed oral sex on me until I climaxed, and I was so devastated that this was being done to me. He said if I ever said anything, he would kill me, and I believed him, stupid idiot that I am.
It was hard having him around, where he was a family friend. I was scared that if I said anything, nobody would beieve me. We would all get together at times, and he would be there, and he always manipulated a situation to get me alone, like ask me to drive him home in front of everyone, get me in a spot where I couldn't say no without it looking like something was up.
He would get me alone & do stuff like take my car keys away, and make me do things like perform oral sex on him, then he'd use his strength to hold me down while doing the same to me. A few times, he even forced himself into me by having anal sex with me. That hurt alot, and at times, I still feel pain & irritation in that area.
Today (April 21st) I got the ball rolling to make arrangements to get an AIDS test. I had one done in 1997, and I was fine. The majority of the sexual abuse I endured occurred in 1998-early 1999. I was too scared to get the test done, what if it was positive? how do I go on with my life, knowing I'm going to get worse? What would my friends think? would they turn me away? Those were among the concerns that I had.
It's odd I find, even though I've had no "real" sexual experiences in my life, and I'm still scared to at my age, the odd time, I'll flirt with a girl that I'm talking to. Is that odd? I live with 2 friends, and him & her both know what I'm going through, they are the only ones that I've really opened up to about any of this. I tried seeking profressional help awhile back, but that seemed to backfire on me. Should I just say "to hell with my problems" and just go out & have sex with a girl?
Whenever girls walk by that are attractive, I don't react like other guys, saying things like "oh, I'd love to jump in bed with her" or "she's hot". I don't say anything like that, because in alot of ways, I'm very shy. I feel that I wouldn't stand a chance because I consider myself not very good looking. I feel that I am too old to start dating for the 1st time. I never got the chance when I was a teenager like all other guys. Does this make me ruined for life. Am I damaged goods?
Thank you very much for listening, I just needed to get this out. All my life, sex, to me, was something dirty & was always presented to me as a weapon. I've even attempted suicide on a number of occasions over this, hoping that someday my pain would end. Why did this have to happen? Why couldn't I be stronger?

Mr.Cadillac said:Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum, and I hope that I can gain some insight through it's use. I'm a 32 year old male, and I'm trying to live a normal life.
Growing up, my family treated me as if I was always "in the way" and constantly made it known. My father was never a part of my life until I turned 18, and even then, it seemed like he didn't want me around.
At a very early age, my 1st recollection of abuse was, when I was around 5 years old, I spilled juice on my aunt's now-ex-husband's suit and he hit me so hard I can still recall it happening like it was yesterday.
Also around this period, I was sexually abused by one of my friends who was a bit older than I was. In my teens, I had no self-confidence, and I never dated or had a girlfriend. No-one ever talked to me about girls, or sex, like mostly all teens when they have "the talk". That never happened with me.
Because of this, everyone would tease me & say that I was gay. I didn't have any of those kinds of feelings, and the more I said I wasn't, the more it fueled the fire for people to torment me, so I shut that part of my life down.
When I was 17, an uncle of one of my friends got me alone, got me drunk, and without my consent, performed oral sex on me. He tried to make me do it back, but I didn't like it, and I was in no shape to fight back. That was another crushing blow to my already-dysfunctional sexual attitude towards life. He did it to me again when I was 23 years old at a party when I had way too much to drink, and there were drugs involved.
As the years went by, I still didn't have any sexual desires. When I was 20, an older woman I knew who was going through marriage problems, tried to become intimate with me one night while we were drinking. She performed oral sex on me (I didn't climax), and when I tried to have intercourse with her, I kind of started to have sex with her, but I couldn't perform & we didn't resume further. Does this mean that I had my 1st time?
Later on, in my mid-20's, this guy started hanging around my family. He was a bit older, in his mid-30's, he knew my 2 aunts from school, and we became friends. He was like an older brother in alot of ways, which I didn't have growing up. Whenever I was around him, he was intimidating because he was stronger than I was, and I never learned how to defend myself, due to always being picked on, it was (and still is) easy to intimidate me & push me around, because I don't know how to defend or stand up for myself.
One night, after we had been drinking with buddies of his, he asked me to stay at his place because I didn't have a drive home. He lived with his parents after breaking up with his girlfriend, whom he had a small daughter with. Anyways, I was falling asleep, and he started to touch me sexually. He told me to be quiet or I'd be sorry. He performed oral sex on me until I climaxed, and I was so devastated that this was being done to me. He said if I ever said anything, he would kill me, and I believed him, stupid idiot that I am.
It was hard having him around, where he was a family friend. I was scared that if I said anything, nobody would beieve me. We would all get together at times, and he would be there, and he always manipulated a situation to get me alone, like ask me to drive him home in front of everyone, get me in a spot where I couldn't say no without it looking like something was up.
He would get me alone & do stuff like take my car keys away, and make me do things like perform oral sex on him, then he'd use his strength to hold me down while doing the same to me. A few times, he even forced himself into me by having anal sex with me. That hurt alot, and at times, I still feel pain & irritation in that area.
Today (April 21st) I got the ball rolling to make arrangements to get an AIDS test. I had one done in 1997, and I was fine. The majority of the sexual abuse I endured occurred in 1998-early 1999. I was too scared to get the test done, what if it was positive? how do I go on with my life, knowing I'm going to get worse? What would my friends think? would they turn me away? Those were among the concerns that I had.
It's odd I find, even though I've had no "real" sexual experiences in my life, and I'm still scared to at my age, the odd time, I'll flirt with a girl that I'm talking to. Is that odd? I live with 2 friends, and him & her both know what I'm going through, they are the only ones that I've really opened up to about any of this. I tried seeking profressional help awhile back, but that seemed to backfire on me. Should I just say "to hell with my problems" and just go out & have sex with a girl?
Whenever girls walk by that are attractive, I don't react like other guys, saying things like "oh, I'd love to jump in bed with her" or "she's hot". I don't say anything like that, because in alot of ways, I'm very shy. I feel that I wouldn't stand a chance because I consider myself not very good looking. I feel that I am too old to start dating for the 1st time. I never got the chance when I was a teenager like all other guys. Does this make me ruined for life. Am I damaged goods?
Thank you very much for listening, I just needed to get this out. All my life, sex, to me, was something dirty & was always presented to me as a weapon. I've even attempted suicide on a number of occasions over this, hoping that someday my pain would end. Why did this have to happen? Why couldn't I be stronger?
quoll said:Just bumping this thread back to where it belongs.