Harry Reid and Barack Obama want a government shutdown.

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'd offer you market value for your puny little garden, tell you to take your crappy sweet potatoes, and plant something good to eat. Everybody wins.

You just made his point.

Advice

 

[zipman]

Zip, a good little apparatchik, will parrot his mentors, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi...no negotiation with terrorist Republicans but appeasement for real terrorists like Iran.

I know you think you're fighting some kind of noble war over the interwebs, but you and A_J are just two old men trying desperately to reassure each other you're warped views are right.

You see far more clearly through the lens of your camera. Get out, go enjoy nature. Do something meaningful.

 

[Adre]

You just made his point.

Advice

He clearly could use it.

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

zip just wants to make sure women will not get their free contraception.

They need to be punished for sending Republicans to the House.




(It is funny that none of them see the parody of this thread; nothing original here, just a reposting of their antics over every other shutdown and the sequester.)

 

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[RobDownSouth]

I do every god damn day, but it's fun pushing your buttons before getting started.

Old men like you think this is a swell game.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

*snicker*

Bill Clinton - tax deduction

I was thinking of Hillary, I thought of Hillary when I read it. BUT MIZZ HILLARY I GOTTA PAYS MY RENT TO YO HUSBAND AN HE DONT WANT NO STAINED PANTIES WIFF HOLES IN EM FO DEH RENT MONEY.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You're one of them.

Bullshit.

I'm asking that the Tea Party respect the concept of majority rule in America.

Bottom Line: Let's have an up-or-down vote on the clean CR and let the chips fall where they may. No Tears.

Of course, I know, just as you do, that the votes are there to pass a clean CR.

That's why whiners such as you, AJ and JamesBitterRecluse keep coming up with rationalizations and specious reasons as to why we can't have an up-or-down vote in the House.

 

[landslider2000]

There are no govt shutdowns -- merely slowdowns.

The label "old" is relative.

du Nouy noted in Biological Time that physiological time may be quite different from chronological.

Thus, people die at different ages.

An obese person with a musculoskeletal impairment may be "old" in his 40s.

A fit person with a good genetic legacy may be "young" in his 60s.

 

[RobDownSouth]

There are no govt shutdowns -- merely slowdowns.The label "old" is relative.du Nouy noted in Biological Time that physiological time may be quite different from chronological.
Thus, people die at different ages.An obese person with a musculoskeletal impairment may be "old" in his 40s.A fit person with a good genetic legacy may be "young" in his 60s.

^^^rationalization.

 

[landslider2000]

Reality.

The govt doesn't shut down. The subject is a slowdown.

People age at different rates depending on fate, exercise, non-atherogenic diet, and genetic legacy.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Democrats and moderate Republicans want a functioning government and a stable economy.

Radical Republicans don't.

Therefore, all 3 sides are bad!

 

[mercury14]

There are no govt shutdowns -- merely slowdowns.

The label "old" is relative.

du Nouy noted in Biological Time that physiological time may be quite different from chronological.

Thus, people die at different ages.

An obese person with a musculoskeletal impairment may be "old" in his 40s.

A fit person with a good genetic legacy may be "young" in his 60s.

Republicans got hammered for the government shutdown in the 90's and that was after several appropriations bills were already passed. This time zero appropriations bills were passed so it will be worse.

I'm getting emails from my Wing Commander telling us that we will most likely not be paid and who to contact to apply for base emergency resources in case we need to buy food or pay rent. Those resources are funded by an annual Christmas charity drive. So yeah... go tell service members who don't get paid that they're just getting slower pay and see how they feel about it.

 

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[zipman]

Republicans got hammered for the government shutdown in the 90's and that was after several appropriations bills were already passed. This time zero appropriations bills were passed so it will be worse.

I'm getting emails from my Wing Commander telling us that we will most likely not be paid and who to contact to apply for base emergency resources in case we need to buy food or pay rent. Those resources are funded by an annual Christmas charity drive. So yeah... go tell service members who don't get paid that they're just getting slower pay and see how they feel about it.

LOL, that's why A_J and crew are trying to blame democrats for it.

I know this thread gave me a ton of laughs.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Democrats and moderate Republicans want a functioning government and a stable economy.

Radical Republicans don't.

Therefore, all 3 sides are bad!

You act as though the left would NEVER use government services to hold the people hostage for more money/power

You're so full of fucking shit and one of the bigger hypocrite embarrassments the LW of the GB has....please stop.

Acting like evil alternate Loony Left Glenn Beck is not the way man.....

 

[Wrong Element]

The majority of Americans oppose a clean CR without spending concessions. I posted the poll the other day. Read it and weep.

Those same polls reveal that the American people somehow believe the deficit is rising, when in fact it's falling and quite rapidly.

Which is another way of saying that when you take a poll that asks, "Duh, should we cut government spending?" you sort of know ahead of time what answer you're going to get. It's when you get down to specifics that people start complaining. Hell, according to you, the military actually requires more spending and not less.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Those same polls reveal that the American people somehow believe the deficit is rising, when in fact it's falling and quite rapidly.

Which is another way of saying that when you take a poll that asks, "Duh, should we cut government spending?" you sort of know ahead of time what answer you're going to get. It's when you get down to specifics that people start complaining. Hell, according to you, the military actually requires more spending and not less.

All spending for the government is good, as long as it's going into your teams pocket....and fuck the other team at all cost.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Learn about the true deficit here son, and stop falling for the Obama/Reid spin:

Real federal deficit dwarfs official tally
By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY Updated 5/24/2012 12:46 AM

The typical American household would have paid nearly all of its income in taxes last year to balance the budget if the government used standard accounting rules to compute the deficit, a USA TODAY analysis finds.

Under those accounting practices, the government ran red ink last year equal to $42,054 per household — nearly four times the official number reported under unique rules set by Congress.

A U.S. household's median income is $49,445, the Census reports.

The big difference between the official deficit and standard accounting: Congress exempts itself from including the cost of promised retirement benefits. Yet companies, states and local governments must include retirement commitments in financial statements, as required by federal law and private boards that set accounting rules.

The deficit was $5 trillion last year under those rules. The official number was $1.3 trillion. Liabilities for Social Security, Medicare and other retirement programs rose by $3.7 trillion in 2011, according to government actuaries, but the amount was not registered on the government's books.
Contrasting deficits

The federal government calculates the deficit in a way that makes the number smaller than if standard accounting rules were followed (in trillions).


Sources: USA TODAY research; Congressional Budget Office

Deficits are a major issue in this year's presidential campaign, but USA TODAY has calculated federal finances under accounting rules since 2004 and found no correlation between fluctuations in the deficit and which party ran Congress or the White House.

Key findings:

•Social Security had the biggest financial slide. The government would need $22.2 trillion today, set aside and earning interest, to cover benefits promised to current workers and retirees beyond what taxes will cover. That's $9.5 trillion more than was needed in 2004.

•Deficits from 2004 to 2011 would be six times the official total of $5.6 trillion reported.

•Federal debt and retiree commitments equal $561,254 per household. By contrast, an average household owes a combined $116,057 for mortgages, car loans and other debts.

"By law, the federal government can't tell the truth," says accountant Sheila Weinberg of the Chicago-based Institute for Truth in Accounting.
Jim Horney, a former Senate budget staff expert now at the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, says retirement programs should not count as part of the deficit because, unlike a business, Congress can change what it owes by cutting benefits or lifting taxes.

"It's not easy, but it can be done. Retirement programs are not legal obligations," he says.

Save your breath, the Usual Suspects live on drugs and Obama flatulence.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Obama is THE national resource for gut wind.

He'll keep things afloat till the elites liquidate their money for land, real estate, stocks, and gold. Then we can burn our social security chex to keep warm.