Good Manners

[Stella_Omega]

Borrowing Netzach's phraseology, I'd say that hetero = at-large normal, and everything else = niche-normal.

But the discussion of what's normal, average, or typical vs. not really misses the relevant point. Which is: abnormal, not-average, or atypical is not necessarily bad.

Not necessarily bad in the unethical sense, and not necessarily bad in the personally unhealthy sense.

If I say: "Joe is an abnormally strong guy," that's not a slam.

In some ways I fit the "norm" here. In other ways not.

In some ways I fit the norm at any lesbian fern bar better than I fit in here-- in other ways, most emphatically not.

In some ways I fit in with the gay male leather Old Guard-- in other ways, not.

In some ways I fit in with the women's leather guard the best-- what there is of it, and those women have fought the same battles I have and share the same scars.

On the whole, I am pretty accustomed to being an outsider, and I'm pretty experienced in chewing out a me-shaped hole in whatever group I find. It's wunna them tough noogies. And I have some sympathy, but very little patience, with the folk who already have a hole shaped like themselves but complain about the fact that it's not lined with velvet or some damn thing.

Deal, people. Get over your selves. Leather is not a Hallmark friendship card.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

Grey's Anatomy? Sounds like a textbook, but that can't be right, surely.

Oprah. Christ. Really? I don't watch her show, but I've seen/read clips & quotes and have never gotten the wannabe cutesy vibe from her.

lol It's a TV show involving good looking doctors at a hospital and their drama. Popular one in the ratings. But it took Oprah to really make the word take off.

From the clip I remember, she loved the word and couldn't get enough of it. I believe she even used it on a medical segment on her show.

 

[midwestyankee]

Grey's Anatomy? Sounds like a textbook, but that can't be right, surely.

You're quite right. Gray's Anatomy is a classic anatomy used as a text in most medical schools as I understand it. I have an old copy around somewhere from my grad school days, in fact. The illustrations were fabulous and very, very plentiful.

And, alas, it's also the title of one of the latest in a long string of medical sitcoms on American television.

 

[Netzach]

Borrowing Netzach's phraseology, I'd say that hetero = at-large normal, and everything else = niche-normal.

But the discussion of what's normal, average, or typical vs. not really misses the relevant point. Which is: abnormal, not-average, or atypical is not necessarily bad.

Not necessarily bad in the unethical sense, and not necessarily bad in the personally unhealthy sense.

If I say: "Joe is an abnormally strong guy," that's not a slam.

Right. 'Zactly.

So while you, personally may not fit into a "Leather" archetype perfectly, you're also cognizant that not most women are going to be prohibited from wearing scarves without noticing that it's a little different or wishing all their girlfriends lived under the same kind of perfect harmonic MDom knows best existence.

Something is off kilter and that's OK. No one needs to line the streets to clap, like I said. You're able to find enough in common with people who do fit a "Leather" archetype that I've never seen you wistfully whine that they're not more like you.

 

[where]

I'm sorry you don't enjoy his work. I find Chef to be extraordinarily funny. But then I was raised on Jeeves and Wooster.

it's ok, to each his own. if you like brit comedy, then apart form the divine Eddie, there is also Black Books, The Green Wing and The IT Crowd if you ever come across them

Who the fuck invented the term "va-jay-jay?" I keep hearing it, and thinking it's more idiotic than any term the former half-term governor every dreamed up.


ETA: Should we start referring to cocks as "pe-ni-ni?" Humorous double entendre possibilities aside, wouldn't that seem... I don't know... juvenile? Like we're all regressing to age 2 1/2 or something?

well that could be a match for punani which is some kind of slang for cunt.

Agreed. He's amongst the worst of British comedy.

he's actually married to the very worst.

Edited because this is its own post:

What is the ongoing obsession with being "normal" and "ok" and "healthy" when you're a fucking pervert.

What you like, if you are here, is freaky in regard to the bell curve.

Deal.

I don't consider myself any of these things in particular and oh look, the sun rose this morning upon me, as well!

I listened to a great lecture last week by someone pretty big in the field or normalcy who was arguing that diversity was in fact becoming the new normalcy.

Seconded.

And let's not underestimate the value of a good double entendre.

(I will not be able to order a panini with a straight face ever again).

true story: My sis in Law went into a sandwich bar and ordered a mozzarella and tomato punani.

 

[teknight]

true story: My sis in Law went into a sandwich bar and ordered a mozzarella and tomato punani.

The really important question: What did they give her?!

 

[where]

The really important question: What did they give her?!

she got what she wanted. it's a bit like the time I ordered conjo a la plancha in a super-bourgeois spanish restaurant. *winces*

 

[teknight]

she got what she wanted. it's a bit like the time I ordered conjo a la plancha in a super-bourgeois spanish restaurant. *winces*

LOL. Nice...(Umm...what were you asking for?...and by that I mean both, what's the dish, and what's it called. Gracias, chica!)

 

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LOL. Nice...(Umm...what were you asking for?...and by that I mean both, what's the dish, and what's it called. Gracias, chica!)

I wanted conejo a la plancha, or grilled rabbit. I asked for grilled cunt. loudly. three times because the waiter kept saying 'que?'

 

[Netzach]

I listened to a great lecture last week by someone pretty big in the field or normalcy who was arguing that diversity was in fact becoming the new normalcy.

That darn interwebs.

 

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That darn interwebs.

ummmm... no, I think it was less to do with the impact of the internet, though it was connected with the way post-modernism allows us to choose our identities.

 

[teknight]

There is a field of normalcy?! Who gave the lecture, and would it be available online? Or other work by said person...

 

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[intothewoods]

Who the fuck invented the term "va-jay-jay?" I keep hearing it, and thinking it's more idiotic than any term the former half-term governor every dreamed up.


ETA: Should we start referring to cocks as "pe-ni-ni?" Humorous double entendre possibilities aside, wouldn't that seem... I don't know... juvenile? Like we're all regressing to age 2 1/2 or something?

You'll like this: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/fashion/28vajayjay.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

true story: My sis in Law went into a sandwich bar and ordered a mozzarella and tomato punani.

Um, that's hysterical.

 

[Cattypuss]

Kybele, I had sort-of forgotten about Green Wing. That was spectacularly good comedy at times.

ETA I also cried laughing at The IT Crowd the other night

 

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You'll like this: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/fashion/28vajayjay.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1



Um, that's hysterical.

you needed to be there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0wx9-kvr6U

 

[where]

Kybele, I had sort-of forgotten about Green Wing. That was spectacularly good comedy at times.

I loved that show. Black books makes me cry it's so funny. I wanna have bill bailey's babies.

 

[JMohegan]

You'll like this: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/fashion/28vajayjay.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

“It sounds warm and familiar and it almost makes the vagina feel like a little cartoon character with eyes that walks around.”

 

[where]

“It sounds warm and familiar and it almost makes the vagina feel like a little cartoon character with eyes that walks around.”

which is why we should stick with 'cunt'

 

[bhndblueyes88]

Aww I like vajayjay. It amuses me However I don't think there's any special dignity or anything in saying it. It just amuses me. And people look at me funny if I say vagina, even in a scientific context. get over it folks 9_9

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

Aww I like vajayjay. It amuses me However I don't think there's any special dignity or anything in saying it. It just amuses me. And people look at me funny if I say vagina, even in a scientific context. get over it folks 9_9

You said, vagina.

 

[intothewoods]

“It sounds warm and familiar and it almost makes the vagina feel like a little cartoon character with eyes that walks around.”

Hee hee, exactly.

I just think the word is funny sometimes. Vajayjay, I mean.

That reminds me, I've heard of prenatal exams where the gender is identified by "girl parts" or "boy parts." So I guess it's just a handy summary since there's more there than a penis or vagina, but still...so goofy to me.

 

[KoPilot]

Pssst! GTS=?

Giantess. ;P

As the token macro fetishist, I feel that it is my duty to weigh in on things on behalf of the large family of size fetishes.

-clears throat, straightens lapels-z

And criminey, I'm gone for 5 hours and have to go through all these replies? Sheesh.

 

[teknight]

Giantess. ;P

As the token macro fetishist, I feel that it is my duty to weigh in on things on behalf of the large family of size fetishes.

-clears throat, straightens lapels-z

And criminey, I'm gone for 5 hours and have to go through all these replies? Sheesh.

谢谢

 

[intothewoods]

you needed to be there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0wx9-kvr6U

Ali G!!!! My favorite M.O.T.