Good Manners

[Netzach]

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What is the ongoing obsession with being "normal" and "ok" and "healthy" when you're a fucking pervert.

What you like, if you are here, is freaky in regard to the bell curve.

Deal.

I don't consider myself any of these things in particular and oh look, the sun rose this morning upon me, as well!

 

[Cattypuss]

There is little similarity in style between Wodehouse and Chef (all I know of Lenny Henry) other than that both can be seen as extensions of the comedy of manners.

Speaking of Pelham Grenville, I have a Netflix DVD of the Laurie/Fry Jeeves and Wooster sitting next to my television awaiting a quiet evening.

Hmmm.... I count Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry amongst the BEST of British comedy, and they could have been born to play those roles.... but I can never bring myself to watch more than five minutes of that programme. Somehow it's all much funnier on the page, for me.

For me PG Wodehouse is comedy of language, primarily, with the comedy of manners coming a distant second.

 

[Cattypuss]

What is the ongoing obsession with being "normal" and "ok" and "healthy" when you're a fucking pervert.

 

[Netzach]

I don't think being queer is unhealthy, but I don't think it's "perfectly normal" either - it's an exception not a rule, duh.

I abhor the pursuit of normality as a condition for having human rights, legal rights, or a right to be left the fuck alone "an' it harm none."

 

[KoPilot]

I'm about the facts. Unclouded by clueless dismissals but also free of the Goddess Matriarchy before everything got ruined bullshit as well.

So goddamn sick of that excuse being used by GTS fans. You have no idea.

 

[teknight]

So goddamn sick of that excuse being used by GTS fans. You have no idea.

Pssst! GTS=?

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Edited because this is its own post:

What is the ongoing obsession with being "normal" and "ok" and "healthy" when you're a fucking pervert.

What you like, if you are here, is freaky in regard to the bell curve.

Deal.

I don't consider myself any of these things in particular and oh look, the sun rose this morning upon me, as well!

Mmmm, I consider my pervertedness to be normal (well, normal for me of course) and the expression of it to be healthy.

 

[Keroin]

Yes we should. It would make the cock threads infinitely more readable.

Seconded.

And let's not underestimate the value of a good double entendre.

(I will not be able to order a panini with a straight face ever again).

 

[Stella_Omega]

Edited because this is its own post:

What is the ongoing obsession with being "normal" and "ok" and "healthy" when you're a fucking pervert.

What you like, if you are here, is freaky in regard to the bell curve.

Deal.

I don't consider myself any of these things in particular and oh look, the sun rose this morning upon me, as well!

quoted for the muthafucking trooth.

 

[JMohegan]

I think it is human nature to want to fit in somewhere. That is, to have a group in which one does feel normal, and in which one's behavior is considered okay.

We're wired to be social. There's a spectrum for this tendency, of course, but it's a fundamental part of our innate survival-of-the-species plan.

 

[JMohegan]

quoted for the muthafucking trooth.

Exhibit A. From the person who complains, on a regular basis, about this board's heteronormative slant.

I'm not saying you're wrong to do so. I'm trying to make a point about the human desire to be accepted, to fit in.

 

[teknight]

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What is the ongoing obsession with being "normal" and "ok" and "healthy" when you're a fucking pervert.

What you like, if you are here, is freaky in regard to the bell curve.

Random thought...but I wonder if it's actually a bell curve, or more of an F distribution:
http://content.answcdn.com/main/content/img/oxford/Oxford_Statistics/0199541454.f-distribution.3.jpg
But that's not what you're asking. I guess it's validation: no one wants to really be the antagonist in their own life movie, do they?

I don't think being queer is unhealthy, but I don't think it's "perfectly normal" either - it's an exception not a rule, duh.

I abhor the pursuit of normality as a condition for having human rights, legal rights, or a right to be left the fuck alone "an' it harm none."

I hate to say it, but, referring to the definition of abnormality from my Abnormal Psych class, it is, in part, a democratic thing: behaving in a culturally acceptable fashion. Why, yes, it is 100% arbitrary....

 

[Netzach]

I think it is human nature to want to fit in somewhere. That is, to have a group in which one does feel normal, and in which one's behavior is considered okay.

We're wired to be social. There's a spectrum for this tendency, of course, but it's a fundamental part of our innate survival-of-the-species plan.

Yes.

But hammering your concept of yourself to fit into at-large normal rather than niche-normal when it doesn't seems like the tendency. I'm not saying we have to go off in the woods and eat twigs and love ourselves only.

People who want to "not be one of those" while you know - being totally one of those.

 

[JMohegan]

Yes.

But hammering your concept of yourself to fit into at-large normal rather than niche-normal when it doesn't seems like the tendency. I'm not saying we have to go off in the woods and eat twigs and love ourselves only.

People who want to "not be one of those" while you know - being totally one of those.

Oh, okay. I misunderstood what you were saying. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Netzach]

I hate to say it, but, referring to the definition of abnormality from my Abnormal Psych class, it is, in part, a democratic thing: behaving in a culturally acceptable fashion. Why, yes, it is 100% arbitrary....

I thought we're moving more into a model of harm reduction and "if you don't have a problem with it, and you're not harming other people, let's fix what you consider a problem"

 

[bhndblueyes88]

Yes.

But hammering your concept of yourself to fit into at-large normal rather than niche-normal when it doesn't seems like the tendency. I'm not saying we have to go off in the woods and eat twigs and love ourselves only.

People who want to "not be one of those" while you know - being totally one of those.

I'd hope they didn't try to eat twigs...that's not very good nutrition for a human :[

And I hate those people XD "I am totally UNIQUE!! *shops at Hot Topic*"

EDIT: (PS. I have nothing against Hot Topic, nor believe that all such people shop there. it's just a common analogy that leads people to intuitively know exactly who THOSEthose people are)

 

[Stella_Omega]

Exhibit A. From the person who complains, on a regular basis, about this board's heteronormative slant.

I'm not saying you're wrong to do so. I'm trying to make a point about the human desire to be accepted, to fit in.

Wrong, I remind people that they cannot assume that everyone fits their personal model of "normal."

Or of "abnormal" that matter...

 

[bhndblueyes88]

R

I hate to say it, but, referring to the definition of abnormality from my Abnormal Psych class, it is, in part, a democratic thing: behaving in a culturally acceptable fashion. Why, yes, it is 100% arbitrary....

Perhaps this is part of the problem. There are way too many definitions of normal/abnormal

 

[Stella_Omega]

Wrong, I remind people that they cannot assume that everyone fits their personal model of "normal."

Or of "abnormal" that matter...

Perhaps this is part of the problem. There are way too many definitions of normal/abnormal

Jinx!

 

[bhndblueyes88]

Jinx!

Lol. I do not owe you a coke!!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Lol. I do not owe you a coke!!

A beer maybe?

Coffee?

 

[teknight]

Let me make this clear- this was an intro class, hence I can't speak for what oaths a psychiatrist/psychologist has to swear to and what codes of morals and ethics apply. What you're describing is the client model, currently being taught and followed, for sure. I'm just pointing out that "abnormality", in a psych context, is still culturally dependent, alas.

 

[JMohegan]

Wrong, I remind people that they cannot assume that everyone fits their personal model of "normal."

Or of "abnormal" that matter...

Borrowing Netzach's phraseology, I'd say that hetero = at-large normal, and everything else = niche-normal.

But the discussion of what's normal, average, or typical vs. not really misses the relevant point. Which is: abnormal, not-average, or atypical is not necessarily bad.

Not necessarily bad in the unethical sense, and not necessarily bad in the personally unhealthy sense.

If I say: "Joe is an abnormally strong guy," that's not a slam.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

Who the fuck invented the term "va-jay-jay?" I keep hearing it, and thinking it's more idiotic than any term the former half-term governor every dreamed up.


ETA: Should we start referring to cocks as "pe-ni-ni?" Humorous double entendre possibilities aside, wouldn't that seem... I don't know... juvenile? Like we're all regressing to age 2 1/2 or something?

It originated on Grey's Anatomy and then Oprah used it and the masses followed.

 

[JMohegan]

It originated on Grey's Anatomy and then Oprah used it and the masses followed.

Grey's Anatomy? Sounds like a textbook, but that can't be right, surely.

Oprah. Christ. Really? I don't watch her show, but I've seen/read clips & quotes and have never gotten the wannabe cutesy vibe from her.