Does the U.N. need to send more Inspector Guys to Iraq?

[Problem Child]

Re: Welcome Putz Partners

Putrid Creep

&

InchWorm

These nicknames are getting so bizarre I'm not sure who's who.

Let's see, I think I'm "putrid creep", so I guess miles is "inch worm".

That means busybody is an idiot, because miles is essentially agreeing with you, dolt.

I, on the other hand, was just re-affirming your general penishead-ness.

 

[Lost Cause]

We already have more inspectors..

About 50,000 and growing, nothing's more scrutinizing than FLIR/NVD. Don't forget to look at the old Persian ruins north of Baghdad, we didn't bomb them because of cultural identity and historical value. Hmm, if I was a piece of shit that ignite oil wells in my own backyard, why not a nuke storage in a national treasure?

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

I, on the other hand, was just re-affirming your general penishead-ness.

Hyperbole Buddy says "penisheadishness".

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

About 50,000 and growing,

There are 50,000 people looking for weapons in Iraq?

 

[Problem Child]

Re: We already have more inspectors..

About 50,000 and growing, nothing's more scrutinizing than FLIR/NVD. Don't forget to look at the old Persian ruins north of Baghdad, we didn't bomb them because of cultural identity and historical value. Hmm, if I was a piece of shit that ignite oil wells in my own backyard, why not a nuke storage in a national treasure?

LC, how you gonna FLIR/NVD 40 feet underground in a hidden underground desert lab complex?

 

[Azwed]

Wouldn't it make more sense to use ground penetrating radar to map any undeground suspected areas for underground structures. We did that with the Soviet missile fields easily enough.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

We should just ask Bill O'Reilly. He knows everything.

 

[Problem Child]

Wouldn't it make more sense to use ground penetrating radar to map any undeground suspected areas for underground structures. We did that with the Soviet missile fields easily enough.

Don't you have to drive a vehicle with the equipment over the area where you think there is something underground? And if that's the case, then you would already have to have a pretty good idea of where such an underground complex was, no?


Ground pen. radar can't be done from an aircraft can it?

 

[Bluesboy2]

Just one. Hanns as foreskin inspector. We need some one with experience.

 

[Problem Child]

We should just ask Bill O'Reilly. He knows everything.

"Mr. Carter we respect your views, even though they're completely wrong and misguided, but thank you for coming on The Factor."

 

[Pyper]

It's not like we try to hide weapons of mass destruction in California anyway.

Hasn't anyone taken a look around Seal Beach in the pasty fifty years? It's one big bunker! They even have a sign that says, "Look! Nuclear weapons! HA HA HA!"

Okay so not really, but it's still pretty obvious.

 

[Azwed]

Don't you have to drive a vehicle with the equipment over the area where you think there is something underground? And if that's the case, then you would already have to have a pretty good idea of where such an underground complex was, no?


Ground pen. radar can't be done from an aircraft can it?

It can be done from certain keyhole satelites. When the US first developed it we used it to map the sewer system in Cario to prove to the soviets that their secret missile bases weren't really secret.

http://www.g-p-r.com/

Short intro on GPR.

I am sure there are ways to fool it or confuse it just like there are normal radar but by changing the frequency or the angle that the radar waves hit I bet many counter measures can be circumvented.

 

[busybody..]

As usual only I the great BUSYBODY tells ot like it is!

Washington Gathers Own Evidence of Saddam’s WMD

As first revealed in latest DEBKA-Net-Weekly Fri. Dec. 6

December 7, 2002, 4:58 PM (GMT+02:00)


Bush already has proofs from field of Iraq`s unconventional weapons


Running circles around the UN arms inspection headed by Swedish diplomat Hans Blix, the Iraqi government dropped a massive pile of documents – its reply to the UN Security Council demand for a full accounting of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction – in the laps of the international media Saturday, December 7, before allowing Blix a peek. The presentation was accompanied by yet another formal denial that Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction.

The 11,880 pages on CD-Rom, landing with a thud in Baghdad, will not reach UN Headquarters in New York before late Sunday, exactly on the dot of the Security Council deadline.

Saddam’s demonstration of openness is in fact another exercise in obfuscation. It will take the world media and the world body days to digest the forbidding mass, particularly when parts are in Arabic and sections are historic and will need to be matched up. It also makes sly fun of Blix’s solemn pledge to hold back sensitive nuclear, chemical and biological data that might be used as recipes for the proliferation of such weapons – even from Security Council members, including the United States.

Washington in any case had no expectation of substance from the UN inspectors.

Thursday, December 5, the White House declared it already had “solid evidence” that Iraq does indeed have weapons of mass destruction. Where did that evidence come from?

DEBKA-Net-Weekly (No. 88, Dec. 6) called on its military sources to divulge the secret, independent inspection project launched by the United States well before the UN Security Council sent its inspectors to Iraq. To subscribe to DNW click HERE .

This project is in the hands of a special multinational task force made up of special elite units and armed with combat helicopters and aircraft, spy-planes and satellites. Unlike the Blix outfit, which is based in Baghdad, the alternative investigators are fanned out across the country. One well-placed source disclosed: “Our men in the field know where 90 percent of Saddam’s missiles and unconventional weapons systems are located, even the mobile ones that are moved from place to place every hour. We are keeping them under tight, on-site observation because when the war begins we want to be there before Saddam orders his men to hit the triggers.”

According to our sources, this highly sensitive, elaborate and secret inspection project has been going for more than three months. Its success could pre-determine the course of the war before it begins. Its members are drawn from the United States, Britain, Jordan and Turkey and possibly Israel. They operate under the Special Forces command at Al Udeid in Qatar and its sub-command in the Jordanian base of Mafraq.

For the purpose of the search, Iraq has been divided into 16 squares, each the province of an elite unit for a set period. The Talil air base complex in north Iraq, for instance, with its air fields, missile bases and air defense batteries, was assigned for the first three weeks of December to US special forces.

When these units end their tour of duty, they return to base and are replaced.

All the units on this mission are briefed down to the last detail on the unconventional weapons in their zone, their precise locations and the names of the Iraqi officers and men assigned to each site. They keep watch around the clock over the comings and goings inside those sites and are on the ready at all times to move in and seize the facility if ordered to do so.

Conscious of those watchful eyes, the Iraqis have made almost all their weapons systems mobile and shift them perpetually. Each of these elite units is afforded broad autonomy of action. They may call up reinforcements as needed, or air assistance from their home base. The Turkish northern Iraqi observation unit, for example, is in the care of the south Turkish military command. Any urgent medical aid requirement will therefore be supplied by the Turkish air force.

However, when aerial bombardment is called for to prevent the movement of weapons from one square to another, or air cover is required in the frequent cases of the special units coming under artillery or tank gun fire, the request for aerial assistance is routed through the US headquarters in Qatar or Jordan and US and UK warplanes scramble to raid Iraqi military targets.

Most of the dozens of “Western” or “allied” air sorties against Iraqi ground targets that are reported every few days are connected, DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources can reveal, with Iraq’s maneuvers for concealing its weapons of mass destruction.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s sources say that this invisible arms inspection project has a dual purpose: it locks suspected weapons of mass destruction in position under close observation; it harvests the data inaccessible to the UN inspection teams and holds it ready for the Bush administration whenever it is called for.

The White House is therefore able to call on General Tommy Franks, commander of the Iraqi sector, to produce the evidence needed to prove Iraq’s mountainous declaration false. All the general needs do is to order the elite unit guarding any one of the 16 squares to seize a weapons system, possibly with its Iraqi crew.

Since no one has any notion of how Saddam Hussein will react to this denouement, all American and allied forces in the Middle East and the Gulf were put on a high state of preparedness as of Wednesday, December 4. General Franks’ arrival at the Qatari rear base of Al Udeid on Friday, December 6, was timed accordingly.

The story going around the Gulf, according to DEBKAfile’s sources, is that in the week since the UN inspection team started work, it has been well penetrated by Iraqi agents.The most disturbing aspect of this - and the reason for the sharp responses coming from the White House - is that the spies have managed to fit "electronic jackets" on the UN measuring instruments, which throw them off and make them emit false data. The technical assistants, some from Arab countries, are also thoroughly infiltrated by Iraqi intelligence

 

[Pyper]

Re: As usual only I the great BUSYBODY tells ot like it is!

That's very funny considering you didn't write the article and didn't bother to mention who did.

 

[busybody..]

PutzO

If u read it.......u would c that its DEBKA.......it sez so

 

[Pyper]

Re: PutzO

If u read it.......u would c that its DEBKA.......it sez so

Riiiight...an organization wrote that article.

Doesn't change the fact that you didn't.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

R U Prince, and when's the next album coming out?

 

[Problem Child]

Re: PutzO

If u read it.......u would c that its DEBKA.......it sez so

It's customary to provide a link. That's just common courtesy. There may be one or two people that want to go and read the source material for themselves.

 

[busybody..]

PUTZo

Whats the point?

Did I say I did?

Doesnt the article convey some information?

Do you ONLY read what some individual writes?

Do you know you are a REtard?

 

[Problem Child]

Re: PUTZo

Whats the point?

Did I say I did?

Doesnt the article convey some information?

Do you ONLY read what some individual writes?

Do you know you are a REtard?

Translation:

Pyper made a good point and I look like a fool. Now I must try to demean her. REtard is as witty as I can get. I think I'm losing this battle of wits, and what's worse, I don't think she's even really trying.

Please help me.

 

[Pyper]

Re: PUTZo

Whats the point?

Did I say I did?

Doesnt the article convey some information?

Do you ONLY read what some individual writes?

Do you know you are a REtard?

The title then should have read:

"As usual only the great DEBKA tells it like it is"

Seeing as how you can't think for yourself long enough to write out your own opinions coherently and have to cut and paste someone else's.

 

[Azwed]

OH please i have crazy person on ignore so I don't lose more brain cells don't quote it.

Frogs for no reason

 

[busybody..]

PUTZo

You are from California........I understand.

The place is FULL of SHORT BUSES

 

[Lost Cause]

FLIR detects heat exhaust.......

A product of any machinery like A/C, and other powered systems. Having a few divisions on the less populated stash areas wouldn't be intrusive. A few cross overs from CIA Predators without being shot at will produce solid data. Besides, we already know they have at least two nukes. Wait till that gets out!

There's plenty to look for; http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/index.html

 

[Pyper]

OH please i have crazy person on ignore so I don't lose more brain cells don't quote it.

I'm sorry, Azwed. I promise I'm done with him. Hanns is more fun anyway.