Do you agree with this statement?

[Never]

This might get contested by others here, but I really do believe that people are people are people foremost. A gay female, a straight male, a bi-curious accountant or a nymphomanic gardener... the difference in thinking and reacting to a situation is still more attributed to individual traits than gender or sexual preference.

I have written from the perspective of a homosexual female. The only difference between her and a straight man was the social situation that came with it re society's prejudices against her. Read up on that, or transfer it from another situation of prejudice and discrimination thst you might be more familiar with.

I am ambivalent about my reaction to this post. I want to believe that people are people but at the same time, the idea that a lesbian is a straight man someone trimmed the dick off of and gave issues to strikes me as wrong.

You can't have it both ways, though. Either people are people and things like race, gender, and sexuality are just add-ons one could easily swap or race, gender, and sexuality are integral to personhood.

 

[Equinoxe]

From a personal perspective, no I don't agree with the statement; I just plain don't buy the whole "we're all the same" argument. Either as regards gender and sexuality or as regards other things. People think differently and people act differently, sometimes as a group, based upon a variety of factors; language and culture shape the individual in a group framework for instance.

Although the study of neuroscience is still in its infancy and the psychology of gender can be a bit unclear, there are generally accepted to be differences in the patterns of thought and feeling for men and women. There are a lot of claims which are suspect and a lot of shady books on the subject, but there is some decent science on the matter.

Besides, just from my own personal observation, which I admit is hardly expansive, I just don't see that as being true.

 

[brw02]

Not sure

I'm not entirely comfortable with the statement but I think it is worthy of consideration. Even the luckiest among us spends less than 3% of our time in sexual activity. The rest of the time we are parents, mechanics, nurses, coaches, etc. One's sexual preference should not define who they are.

 

[Never]

Survival and reproduction do seem to be the focus of all life, however. The fact that I didn't have sex last year doesn't change the fact that I think of sex on a daily basis, that I am aware of other women as sexual objects, and that orientation defines me in my own minds and those of others.

I might go without bumping uglies for the rest of my life but as long as I'm a healthy adult, I'll always be ghey.

 

[M_ber166]

Sounds good to me

"Originally Posted by Liar
This might get contested by others here, but I really do believe that people are people are people foremost. A gay female, a straight male, a bi-curious accountant or a nymphomanic gardener... the difference in thinking and reacting to a situation is still more attributed to individual traits than gender or sexual preference.

I have written from the perspective of a homosexual female. The only difference between her and a straight man was the social situation that came with it re society's prejudices against her. Read up on that, or transfer it from another situation of prejudice and discrimination thst you might be more familiar with."

Well, I think that people are people are people, too, regardless of the label. The label
is an adjective, isn't it. People use adjectives to discriminate between one class, or preference of some kind, and another. I also think prejudice is when one person shows disdain or disagrees with the actions of another. Having said that...I find that I've been a hypocrite for a long time and every day I live I see my attitude towards others change as I get to understand them. Maybe, one of these days, I'll turn into a nymphomaniac gardener and see the world from those eyes. I've probably met a few and didn't even recognise what they were. . So there!

 

[Netzach]

I am ambivalent about my reaction to this post. I want to believe that people are people but at the same time, the idea that a lesbian is a straight man someone trimmed the dick off of and gave issues to strikes me as wrong.

You can't have it both ways, though. Either people are people and things like race, gender, and sexuality are just add-ons one could easily swap or race, gender, and sexuality are integral to personhood.

I think we're different based on race, gender, sexuality and the way we are as individuals complicates how we navigate that difference. I also don't think we're *inherently* different, I do think that we are trained to react to one another in certain ways based on those things. I don't think we could possibly *un* train ourselves fully from our cultures, so to me it doesn't really make a difference. People would be people if we allowed it, but people being people we notice difference and we can't and don't.

Chauvenism about your own culture IS a universal trait, possibly one of the only few.

 

[sweetsyn]

I am ambivalent about my reaction to this post. I want to believe that people are people but at the same time, the idea that a lesbian is a straight man someone trimmed the dick off of and gave issues to strikes me as wrong.

You can't have it both ways, though. Either people are people and things like race, gender, and sexuality are just add-ons one could easily swap or race, gender, and sexuality are integral to personhood.

Never,
On another thread I may have seemed to be attacking you, I wasn't. I do see alot of wisdom in your post, wish life were truly that simple. In another post someone said that we are all basicly the same, I pray that isn't true. The beautiful part of this life is that we are all SO different, it is our differences that keep this life interesting. I do not view a lesbian as a man without a penis, that's silly. This world will be better off when people finally realize it is the differences that make people 'click', if we were all the same it would be one boring as hell binary life.

 

[killallhippies]

i do tend to think of lesbians as straight men, but only in the sense that i really shouldn't waste my time hitting on them no matter how much i may want to because it'll only be a waste of time as well as potential problem starter that may create a level of discomfort that will prevent me from being on truly friendly terms with them.

i'm not even going to think about whether or not we are all the same. i could only answer with a cop out like yes and no or something like that because that's the only answer i can come up with at the moment.

 

[sweetsyn]

i do tend to think of lesbians as straight men, but only in the sense that i really shouldn't waste my time hitting on them no matter how much i may want to because it'll only be a waste of time as well as potential problem starter that may create a level of discomfort that will prevent me from being on truly friendly terms with them.

i'm not even going to think about whether or not we are all the same. i could only answer with a cop out like yes and no or something like that because that's the only answer i can come up with at the moment.

you're right that is a cop-out. we're all different that's what makes life and people interesting/

 

[killallhippies]

you're right that is a cop-out. we're all different that's what makes life and people interesting/

yeah, but we aren't that different or we'd have no common ground and we would be unable to communicate with each other in any significant way ever. yes and no. get it?

 

[timberwolf05]

hmmmmmmmm

re society's prejudices against ;

why is it blacks, mexicans, chinese, whatever, hate whites even when we try to be nice?

sounds like double standards. they bitch and complain the world is unfair yet most of us normal folks are not in power to change the world.
why in hell get mad at me just coz i am white?

there is social prejudice!


the wolf

 

[deezire1900]

I didn't know what to think...so I asked a straight male friend of mine. He said, even though I am very femme, I fit into the hetrosexual male world best out of any of the others. I said what about the lesbian world...he said of course, but not in the same way.
I took him to be saying that I am comfortable around straight men, because I am so much like them. Career, relationships, ect.

 

[onceburned]

Originally Posted by Liar
A gay female, a straight male, a bi-curious accountant or a nymphomanic gardener... the difference in thinking and reacting to a situation is still more attributed to individual traits than gender or sexual preference.

eh... individual thinking and reacting is rooted in our past experiences and the beliefs, attitudes and values that we have come to accept based what we have encountered in life..

Gender and sexual orientation are powerful shapers of experience. Therefore, it stands to reason that lesbians and straight men, as a group, will have different outlooks. But certainly that doesn't mean that a lesbian and straight man can't react to a situation in exactly the same way, either.

 

[Liar]

Never thought I'd ever say anything significant enough to be quoted by strangers.

I'm not a regular visitor to these parts of the forum, so it was pure luck I saw it. Interresting replies. I don't exactly have anything to back my statement, other than my own experience and people I know.

All I really said was that there are so many things that makes a personality, and that I think we often hang too much on sexuality labels when we shape our preconceptions and expectations of people. It might be an important shaper of experience, but it's far from the only one.

#L