Do submissives

[WriterDom]

enjoy pain because it is a need, or endure it to please their PLYs?

 

[Kajira Callista]

heh...you know i have something to say...but it will have to wait 'til the Dominants in training and i come back from the lake.

 

[crazybbwgirl]

enjoy pain because it is a need, or endure it to please their PLYs?

yes

 

[graceanne]

Re: Re: Do submissives

yes

Very well said.

 

[A Desert Rose]

enjoy pain because it is a need, or endure it to please their PLYs?

I don't know.

Too many deep damned questions all over the place.

What's wrong with just doing something because you and your DOM like it?

 

[tythisredheadup]

concur

It is truly the best of both worlds.

 

[sweet4poison]

endure it as a need to please or need it

for myself... i don't really experience it as pain... i mean yes it IS pain when i am not "there" ... but do i need it... to get to be able to O... yes.
can i without it...
no.
so... yeah. i need it.

 

[meatflower]

for me it is both.

because on some level I understand what I am worth and what I am for. I need to have these things pulled out of me, undeniable in the flesh.

because any man I would let so close to my insides, I would also go to any length to please.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Ok..for me personally its kind of two sided. I love pain, the more the better, the more humiliating the better...i will never cry out a safe word. well lets not say never, but i never have. the reason being because i am for Masters pleasure, whatever that may mean at the moment.
Now lets see if i can get the wording right w/out sounding like an ass.
When trust is in place and i am with a Dominant that i know doesnt have the desire to make me no longer be alive, i will go anyplace that person desires me to go because from that i get a pleasure that can not in any way be compared to sex or pain or anything else i know. To know that i have the ability to "stick it out" until they are fulfilled in any way they want to be at the time, to know that i have the mental and physical strength to endure till their needs are sated fills my heart with happiness... makes me feel alive and for real....places me where i belong.

 

[Netzach]

ahhh....why I love masochists, in a nutshell.

 

[Technodivinitas]

I don't care much for pain- yes, I can get to that adrenalyne/endorphan place, but that doesn't tweak my knobs so much.And I don't exactly "just take it because my Dom wants me to" either. I enjoy the not enjoying it, because it pleases him that I am willing to endure it and suffer at his will. THAT is what tweaks my knobs.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Ok..for me personally its kind of two sided. I love pain, the more the better, the more humiliating the better...i will never cry out a safe word. well lets not say never, but i never have. the reason being because i am for Masters pleasure, whatever that may mean at the moment.
Now lets see if i can get the wording right w/out sounding like an ass.
When trust is in place and i am with a Dominant that i know doesnt have the desire to make me no longer be alive, i will go anyplace that person desires me to go because from that i get a pleasure that can not in any way be compared to sex or pain or anything else i know. To know that i have the ability to "stick it out" until they are fulfilled in any way they want to be at the time, to know that i have the mental and physical strength to endure till their needs are sated fills my heart with happiness... makes me feel alive and for real....places me where i belong.

aww, kc gave me a warm fuzzy.

 

[ownedsubgal]

first, there's a big difference between a submissive and a masochist. but for a submissive who does appreciate pain, the reasons why can vary. maybe they simply find it erotic, a physical turn-on. in my case, i don't enjoy pain, don't like it, don't find it pleasureable in the least. yet i do need it and crave it...i have always had a need to suffer at the hands of a man. it fulfills something deep within me, although on the surface it's torture.

 

[graceanne]

Actually, I've wondered (just wondered, don't know if it's true or not) if we like pain and spankings, not only for the endorphin rush, but because somewhere inside we think we're bad and should be punished. And the spanking (or whatever) makes us feel clean and forgiven. It's a theory at least.

 

[Kajira Callista]

aww, kc gave me a warm fuzzy.

hmmmm only a warm fuzzy eh? i must be slipping

 

[Richard49]

enjoy pain because it is a need, or endure it to please their PLYs?

Would it not depend on weather said submissive's sensuality
leaned towards pain ?

 

[RavenSpirit2k4]

Actually, I've wondered (just wondered, don't know if it's true or not) if we like pain and spankings, not only for the endorphin rush, but because somewhere inside we think we're bad and should be punished. And the spanking (or whatever) makes us feel clean and forgiven. It's a theory at least.

I've known at least one male sub (a bi cross-dresser) who was exactly like that. Pain wasn't fun to him at all, but he loved old-fashioned punishments because they made him feel "cleansed" somehow. It had to do with how he was raised, I think. Strict parents who would not have approved of his sexuality.

But his was a fairly overt case; it didn't take much digging to get that out of him. It might be true for other subs as well, but probably on a more subliminal(sp?) level.

 

[graceanne]

I've known at least one male sub (a bi cross-dresser) who was exactly like that. Pain wasn't fun to him at all, but he loved old-fashioned punishments because they made him feel "cleansed" somehow. It had to do with how he was raised, I think. Strict parents who would not have approved of his sexuality.

But his was a fairly overt case; it didn't take much digging to get that out of him. It might be true for other subs as well, but probably on a more subliminal(sp?) level.

That's what I meant, subconsiously. I sure know it's not on the consious level for me. What would be interested would be to find out how many of us (as a whole, not just in this group) were abused as children. I was, and I often wonder if that's where my need for pain comes from. Even before I was in a relationship I would bite myself and pinch myself till I'd raised huge bruises. It was a way of releaving stress. (I of course kept it a secret - the school shrinks already thought i was wierd enough ) But once I got in this relationship I stopped doing all that. I figure it's cause hubby takes care of those needs for me. *shrugs* I dunno. It's just a theory of mine.

 

[ZenDragoness]

Pain

I enjoy the main only out of selfish reasons, i am masochist. Submission is not my cup of tea

 

[A Desert Rose]

I don't know about the need for pain.

I do know about the need to submit, though. And how it feels when you can't. That's a pain I don't like.

 

[SkyBluAngelEyes]

Re: Re: Do submissives

yes

What she said. i tend to lean more towards the pain.

i do want to please and i do want to submit, but i crave physical pain that goes along with it.

 

[Jack Eagle]

What she said. i tend to lean more towards the pain.

i do want to please and i do want to submit, but i crave physical pain that goes along with it.

We will discuss this later.

 

[ethereal~minx]

enjoy pain because it is a need, or endure it to please their PLYs?

I do not enjoy pain. no no no no no no no the thought of pain brings tears to my eyes. pain = punishment.

I endure pain. I cannot say it is to please a PYL.

 

[Richard49]

I started a thread on weather one is a submissive, slave or sensualist

you all may find what is posted there helpful

 

[AvaAdore]

Re: Re: Re: Do submissives

What she said. i tend to lean more towards the pain.

i do want to please and i do want to submit, but i crave physical pain that goes along with it.

I think I am in the same boat.

Initially when pain is administered (pinching of my inner thighs is one of his favourites), it is immediately satisfying. As the pain builds up, often it gets to a point where I am enduring it. I LIKE enduring it and I like the physical sensations. I LOVE the feeling of happiness and submission afterwords.

If I am being hurt while experiencing direct stimulation (eg. rubbing my clit), it feels good! It doesn't feel like pain at all but pure pleasure. Of course this doesn't count...it's never been used as punishment, but only to help get me off