Denial Versus the Forced Orgasm

A Desert Rose said:
Good morning, Ma'am.

Who aside from me, has told you how beautiful You are? I love Your AV.

Count me in that Shadows ... very nice AV, your slave is a good photographer ... we need to get a pic that suits us better for ours - but for now, I like what we've got (obviously, since it's the same one that I used for my Aerofreak account ... LOL).
 
SweetDommes said:
Count me in that Shadows ... very nice AV, your slave is a good photographer ... we need to get a pic that suits us better for ours - but for now, I like what we've got (obviously, since it's the same one that I used for my Aerofreak account ... LOL).

~~smile~~ thank You!
The slave is a bit of a photo freak so a one hour session can take all day....hmmm speaking of sessions I suppose he has earned something!

I have always enjoyed Your av as well.
 
Shadowsdream said:
~~smile~~ thank You!
The slave is a bit of a photo freak so a one hour session can take all day....hmmm speaking of sessions I suppose he has earned something!

Heehee ... Our boy got something last night that he's been waiting for ... he also learned something - just cuz it's made of ribbon & looks sissy doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt *evil grin* ... not to mention that he has little marks still from the beads at the ends. I think I'll have to make more - some with fewer falls but beaded, one that is just knotted, a heavy one that's left plain, etc ... :devil:
 
I have experienced both sides of this particular coin. And, to be honest I am not sure which I like more.


Denial:
With Master, this takes the form of teasing me all day - sometimes even two days - long. Playing with me until I am almost there ... and then walking away. By the end of the day, I am wet and 'itchy' ... so wanting to be given that final release. It is sometimes hard to achieve it though, if the denial has been very prolonged ... but when it comes ... Ohhhh boy! does it come with a crash.

Forced:
Master enjoys watching my reactions when he brings me to orgasm over and over and over ... the best (?) I have managed before I reach the point where my body just cannot take any more is 14 or 15 in one session. The forced senario has more impact for me when it has followed a period of denial; or when Master decides He wishes to use me for His amusement in the middle of the night and I wake to His fingers working on me.

During the forced period, I get to the stage where I can be literally running with juice, and would do almost anything to have my cunt filled ... with anything! Once at that stage, Mastewr uses more than just fingers and soon I am being bought to orgasm just by a slight nip to my nipples, or Him whispering into my ear what a slutty cunt I have.

My submission at this point is at the stage where I obey without concious thought. In fact, I am incapable of thought. Often, after such a scene, Master has to rearrange my limbs for me as I am quite beyond moving them myself. It is as if I have lost all control or feeling over every part of my body other than my clit and hole.



I wasn't actually going to post much ... but it turned into a bit of a marathon. Sorry.
 
Respectful Greetings to Ms. Shadowsdream and participants.
New here- and I look forward to contributing to stories and discussions.

This is a fascinating topic and I salute the Ms. for giving it voice!

The denial, and the force of release is certainly very powerful both physically and emotionally. For me, I believe denial has a more long-term effect as it enforces the concept that any pleasure I might experience is at the control of Mistress. The force of pleasure- to the point of sweet agony- is relatively short-term but can be quite bonding and endearing. A Mistress in my past was skilled at forcing me through a rapid succession of orgasms (up to five!) with little or no rest or 'resolution phase' in between (while restrained, of course) and this would put me in a state of absolute obedience for fear she would do it again!
 
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Shadowsdream said:
hello pixie and thank you for sharing more of your reality. It is wonderful that you speak of the sporadic thoughts of how cheating flicks through the mind when a task is not easy or pleasurable.

He must be very proud of your honesty when you pass these tests that He sets.

More or less experience do not make more or less intensity of emotions or sensations. I would take a small bet though that you will find the Forced Orgasm a much different story when you are bound and taken over the edge with no possibility of escape.

So much to look forward to on this amazing journey you are just beginning. There is no finish line so take your time and savour every second of the discovery!
Morning, such a lovely new avatar.

In my opinion, without honesty and real effort it would be quite pointless to call it submission. And if I was to try and cheat, I'd be cheating both of us, not just Him. How would I ever learn and grow if I did that every time things aren't easy... :)

I think I wouldn't take that bet. It will a totally different experience and a different headspace. And one I both dread and can't wait to experience.

That is true, it's a journey I never thought I'd be taking, but it feels right. And I'm very grateful for having a place like this where I can learn from others who are willing to share their knowledge :)
 
denial vs forsed

I personaly prefer the Denial with a final mind blowing release at the end. Had a good sesion last night my cock and balls were bound and the end of the rope was tied to my colar so that if I uncurled my body the bindings tightened. A couple of hours of MS touching, rubbing, slaping keeping me on the edge. Allong wit the instruction that I was not allowed. Made for a good case of blue balls, and made the power of the finaly allowed climax so intence it hurt.

Pleasure/pain where is the line? Who cares?

Forced orgasm has each of the times it has been aplied left friction burns on my cock. A reminder for several days. Great for bussiness trips. Dos not afect me as intencely as denial.

As for my wife (we switch). She enjoys the denial more. She says that it makes for a grander climax when finaly allowed.

I know that forced climaxes will leave her a quivering mass. I so enjoy enflicting this on her.

Sifer
 
Almost forgot we to use the "telling a story" both on the dom and sub side.

Either telling the sub something that we know they enjoy or something that is at their tollerance limits that we plan on doing to them in the future.

Or we have the sub tell us of a fanticy using it as a grounds to ridicule and taunt the sub. Also a good sourse for ideas for future scenes.

Sifer
 
SweetDommes said:
We technically haven't done either with our boy ... he does have to ask permission first, but as of yet, we haven't told him no when he asked ... and we haven't really spent enough time with him for forced orgasm.

So now we wait to see if he has any thoughts on the subject (he always manages to rat himself out & tell us stuff that he doesn't intend to LOL)

-Miss Karen

Just returning to this for a brief moment ... I know the boy reads our posts, and now that he has experienced one side of this discussion (denial), maybe he'll post his thoughts ....
 
Willowpuss

Thank you for the nice long descriptive explanation and peek inside of your bedroom when the Boss takes supreme control!
He does know how to play you like a fine violin..which is a good thing!
 
tropix said:
Respectful Greetings to Ms. Shadowsdream and participants.
New here- and I look forward to contributing to stories and discussions.

This is a fascinating topic and I salute the Ms. for giving it voice!

The denial, and the force of release is certainly very powerful both physically and emotionally. For me, I believe denial has a more long-term effect as it enforces the concept that any pleasure I might experience is at the control of Mistress. The force of pleasure- to the point of sweet agony- is relatively short-term but can be quite bonding and endearing. A Mistress in my past was skilled at forcing me through a rapid succession of orgasms (up to five!) with little or no rest or 'resolution phase' in between (while restrained, of course) and this would put me in a state of absolute obedience for fear she would do it again!

Hello tropix and thank you for joining the conversation!
Good point ( fear She would do it again ) Truly is an agony worth exploring!
The first orgasm can be welcomed and even the second...occassionally a sub begins to get that little satisfied smirk on their face but by orgasm 4 or 5 the smirk is replaced with a grim expression.
Ahhh how obedient that toy becomes with the ending of all orgasms..Denial truly becomes a welcome thought for the sub or slave!
 
Denial *sigh*...lol

this weekend my Dommes decided that regardless how good i was, it wasn't proper for me to recieve their blessings every time (all damn weekend:p) i was aroused. it was a lesson in self control, and behavior modification.

My idea of denial was, "ok boy, no pleasuring yourself while out on the road, you must wait til you're in Our presence to relieve yourself." ...

Their idea, (wicked wicked Dommes:)) was to tease, torment, and generally keep me aroused all weekend, without the benefits of blessed releif. much to my chagrin.

i learned a very valuable lesson on self control, Ownership, and the art of begging while gagged:p.

the more time i spend with my Dommes, the more i realize that i am owned, and just how lucky i am:)
 
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Well I have been lurking here for quite a while, but had to register to share my experiences...

Denial -- his control over me is primarily emotional -- he loves to tease and torture over the course of the day -- then allow my release at his whim -- the physical aspect is a sweet torture

Forced -- his control is primarily physical -- my lack of control over my body makes me feel completely dominated -- the sensations become more torture than sweet

Jenny

PS -- Shadowsdream, thank you for always beginning the most intriquing converstations!
 
His_good_girl said:
Well I have been lurking here for quite a while, but had to register to share my experiences...

Denial -- his control over me is primarily emotional -- he loves to tease and torture over the course of the day -- then allow my release at his whim -- the physical aspect is a sweet torture

Forced -- his control is primarily physical -- my lack of control over my body makes me feel completely dominated -- the sensations become more torture than sweet

Jenny

PS -- Shadowsdream, thank you for always beginning the most intriquing converstations!

Hello Jenny and thank you for delurking and adding your voice to the conversation!

A skilled Master can certainly make a submissive turn to putty in His hands can't He?
....a thin line between sweet torture and torturously sweet is an edge worth striving to balance upon.
 
ghosst_K&H said:
Denial *sigh*...lol

this weekend my Dommes decided that regardless how good i was, it wasn't proper for me to recieve their blessings every time (all damn weekend:p) i was aroused. it was a lesson in self control, and behavior modification.

My idea of denial was, "ok boy, no pleasuring yourself while out on the road, you must wait til you're in Our presence to relieve yourself." ...

Their idea, (wicked wicked Dommes:)) was to tease, torment, and generally keep me aroused all weekend, without the benefits of blessed releif. much to my chagrin.

i learned a very valuable lesson on self control, Ownership, and the art of begging while gagged:p.

the more time i spend with my Dommes, the more i realize that i am owned, and just how lucky i am:)

I have a gut feeling that you and your two Dommes will have many agonizing pleasures to explore and enjoy on this journey you are all beginning together.

Thank you for giving U/us a peek at your learning experience.
 
ghosst_K&H said:
Their idea, (wicked wicked Dommes:)) was to tease, torment, and generally keep me aroused all weekend, without the benefits of blessed releif. much to my chagrin.

Trust me, there are more than a few Doms around who have similar ideas! :devil:
 
FungiUg said:
Trust me, there are more than a few Doms around who have similar ideas! :devil:

Thank the gods.

Make me beg to cum oh please please pleeeeease!!!!

Sifer
 
It may be appropriate to mention another type of 'forced' orgasm- that which is not brought about by overstimulation but through the mental pressure of command.

I had a favourite Mistress who at times in the midst of stimulation would order: "You are to cum at My count of Ten.... not before.... not after.... not at Nine.... not at Eleven..... TEN. Now, My Sweet- One......... Two.......... Three......"
This would be surrounded by many variations- the speed of Her count- the tone of Her voice which could be stern and demanding or sweet and taunting- whether She was stimulating me or I was permitted to touch myself...... keeping in mind this point would arrive usually after an extended period of denial and edging- it was a very delicate balance.
What a conflict of emotions would engulf me!
Excitment.... that I would be allowed release. Worry.... that I might lose control and cum too soon. Fear.... that I might disappoint Her and take too long. Devotion.... to following Her command. Relief.... that our session would soon resolve. Desire... to show Her affect on me........
It was very pure control.
How did I do?
Most times..... I was able.... to follow instructions! ;)
 
No not you I was thinking of my MS and typing out loud.

You have to earn a begging and it would not be easy

Sifer:eek:
 
I enjoy orgasm control greatly. Denial is a powerful tool.

My favorite game is to have my lover rate themselves on a scale of one to ten, ten being the point of orgasm. I like to see how close they can get to ten without going over. I like to make them whimper and beg as they writhe at 9.5. (getting wet here)

On the other hand, forced orgasm is nice, too. Even better, it can be a tool for training. I sometimes threaten my husband that if he cums before I give permission, then he will have to cum ten times that night. That helps him gain some control.

One of my gf's loves when I make her cum over and over. I like to make her cum until her pussy starts to cramp from it. It's a beautiful sight to see her covered in a sheen of sweat, panting like a bitch in heat, her arms and legs trembling uncontrollably. Usually, she's in tears, which is another turn on for me.

I've never made my husband cum more than three times in a night. It quickly gets to a point where the spirit is willing but the body is weak. What is fun for me is to continue to stroke the head of his cock right after he cums. It gets so sensitive that each stroke sends a shock wave through him.

be right back after I change panties


Hugs,



Kat
 
Gods I know how your husband feels.

Hyper sensitive after cumming, shit I've been hit by high voltage lines that felt as if they were less!!!!!!


It feels as if pleasure is crossing the line to pain insted of the other way around.
 
stimulation after orgasm

One of my hottest fantasies is being tied up and brought to orgasm....but the stimulation keeps going...even though my penis is screaming to have it stopped.

I have had this happen a couple times, but I start writhing and gasping so much my domm has stopped after a short time.

For some reason, like a moth attracted to a flame, I want to be tortured like this some more.

gregor
 
Thank you one and all for keeping this thread alive in My absense.
The conversation remains very interesting and I am quite sure many new evil ideas are being formulated even as I type.
 
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