Democratic Primary Fucktussle!

[SEVERUSMAX]

Gabbard rails against DNC debate criteria even as she qualifies for next debate

Tulsi Gabbard calls for foreign policy-focused debate

Tulsi Gabbard: Transcript doesn't show 'compelling' case for impeachment

Okay, I can not support Tulsi anymore. While I think she's a lot better that the other bottom dwellers, she's lost me now. Even the "Trumped up" transcript showed Trumpski criming and the collusion of Pence, Barr and Rudy.

I disagree with her on impeachment, but I still think that she's the most vetted and qualified candidate to be Commander-in-Chief. The Presidency is far more about foreign policy and national security than about economics or the impeachment of a predecessor.

But, yes, it's disappointing to see her take this track. I consider it tunnel vision, unable to see outside your focus.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well, there are so many political factions that I can't keep up with their definitions or affiliations. The Comrade doesn't believe in billionaires, he wants to steal from the rich and give to the poor, no more billionaires. I see that as Robin Hood with a big red star on his forehead and a sickle instead of a bow and arrow.

Fair enough.

I suppose at the end of the day the government taking all your shit is the government taking all your shit.

 

[JackLuis]

I disagree with her on impeachment, but I still think that she's the most vetted and qualified candidate to be Commander-in-Chief. The Presidency is far more about foreign policy and national security than about economics or the impeachment of a predecessor.

But, yes, it's disappointing to see her take this track. I consider it tunnel vision, unable to see outside your focus.

I agree with her about the Foreign Policy debate, if the moderators are intelligent about the stupidity of the questions the former mods have asked. (I'm looking at you Chuck Toad!)

I think Tulsi would do well in Foreign Policy and "No more Wars" if given the chance, but the "both sider" Mods will just fuck it up.

 

[JackLuis]

Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard changes course on impeachment inquiry

Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard – previously a lone holdout among the crowded field of 2020 presidential hopefuls – says she has changed her mind about an impeachment inquiry after reading the transcript of President Donald Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy urging the foreign leader to help with looking into claims against former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

“Up to this point, I have been opposed to pursuing impeachment because it will further divide our already badly divided country," Gabbard said Friday in a press release from her campaign. "However, after looking carefully at the transcript of the conversation with Ukraine’s President, the whistleblower complaint, the Inspector General memo, and President Trump’s comments about the issue, unfortunately, I believe that if we do not proceed with the inquiry, it will set a very dangerous precedent."

Gabbard said she worries if she doesn't support the impeachment process, future presidents and other federal leaders may get the idea that its OK to abuse their position for personal gain without repercussion.

SHe means like St Ronnie and GHW, Billy BOb, GW and those common Rethuglicunts.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard changes course on impeachment inquiry



SHe means like St Ronnie and GHW, Billy BOb, GW and those common Rethuglicunts.

It's one of my few frustrations with her, along with her lack of clarity on Medicare For All. I'm mostly very happy with her, but those are areas of discord. I understand the dislike of divisive politics, but sometimes, we're just not going to go all "kumbaya," especially in this age of SJWs and cancel culture. I'm a very progressive guy, but cancel culture and "the moral outrage" types that pounce on everything tire me as well.

Tangent over, seriously, this impeachment is worth doing, because Trump is the most corrupt President ever, far worse than Nixon or Reagan or Bush (either of them). He's a con man, a bigot, a demagogue, and a tax cheat.

 

[JackLuis]

It's one of my few frustrations with her, along with her lack of clarity on Medicare For All. I'm mostly very happy with her, but those are areas of discord. I understand the dislike of divisive politics, but sometimes, we're just not going to go all "kumbaya," especially in this age of SJWs and cancel culture. I'm a very progressive guy, but cancel culture and "the moral outrage" types that pounce on everything tire me as well.

Tangent over, seriously, this impeachment is worth doing, because Trump is the most corrupt President ever, far worse than Nixon or Reagan or Bush (either of them). He's a con man, a bigot, a demagogue, and a tax cheat.

Before Trump came along, I mostly looked at DC as a comedy/horror show, only worth the entertainment value they provided. Darth Cheney changed my mind when I saw the depth of the corruption that was increasing it's hold on our government. GW and the Darth were I thought nullified by Obama's election, he brought me real hope again, only to dash it on the sands of Libya.

Now we stand on the eve of electing a new honest President, if we can find one in the ranks of the Democrats running. Based upon the projected trajectories of the current leaders It appears that Liz will be the winner, however Tulsi has yet to get the coverage to make her mark. That will change in the next debate. Wall Streets fear of Liz and Bernie will make them look for a more moderate candidate who has the message that will resonate with the yearnings of the populace who need someone they trust to not be a flaming radical but promises the return to sanity.

I'd like Kamala to be AG though and enforce the law on those who have broken it over the last 20 years or so.

 

[Kantarii]

Or anyone else who has even a shred of respect for the American dream or what the USA stands for.

I'm just American btw.

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit Of Happiness
Freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and due process.

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Come as you are, as you were
As I want you to be
As a friend, as a friend
As an known enemy

 

[YDB95]

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit Of Happiness
Freedom of speech, the right to bare arms, and due process.

Meaning the right to wear a sleeveless dress?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Meaning the right to wear a sleeveless dress?

No comrade.

Meaning the individual right to own scaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaary looking guns.

 

[Dumpington]

The current Democratic Party tactic to bring down the Trump presidency (e.g. IMPEACHMENT) is backfiring, but the House Democrats hate him so much that they're oblivious to the damage that they're doing to their own party nationwide!

"After this he has a much better chance of winning another election, as scary as that sounds," says 39-year old Richard Sibilla, a resident of Pinellas County, Florida, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. "It's not even worth following because it's all going to help him."

Among the public, interviews with more than 60 voters across four of the most important counties in the 2020 election showed Republicans largely confident the impeachment process will backfire and Trump will win re-election. Democrats, on the other hand, are increasingly worried that they may be right. Marc Devlin, a 48-year-old consultant from Northampton County, Pennsylvania, says he expects the inquiry to "incense" supporters of the president. "This is my fear, that it will actually add some flame to his fire with his base," he says. "I just fear 'party over country.'"

Throughout the 2020 election cycle, Reuters is monitoring voters in four areas that could determine the outcome of the Nov. 3 presidential contest: Pinellas County, Florida; Maricopa County, Arizona; Northampton County, Pennsylvania; and Racine County, Wisconsin. Given the sharply divided electorate and the rules in America's state-by-state races that determine the winner in the Electoral College, those four states will be among the most targeted by presidential candidates next year. Public opinion has time to shift before voters cast their ballots next November. But for now, the prospect of impeachment has done little to sway opinions, largely formed along party lines, according to the interviews and polling. A Reuters/Ipsos poll taken on Monday and Tuesday showed 37% of respondents favored impeaching the president versus 45% who were opposed. That 37% figure was down from 41% three weeks earlier and down from 44% in May, after the release of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

"I don't think he did anything wrong," says Joe D'Ambrosio, 78, who runs a barber shop in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, who cheers on Trump's efforts to crack down on illegal immigration. Lee Snover, chair of the Northampton County Republican Committee, says she feels that the impeachment inquiry is the latest instance of the Democrats using unfair tactics to try to take Trump down. It shows, she says, how disconnected Washington's politicians are from the rest of the country. "I have not had one Republican crack or say they're turning or going the other way. They're laughing it off. I think it's going to help him," said Snover, 50.

"They have this idea that everyone is siding with them, that Trump is an impeachable president, when really it's only a minority," Rose Mulet, 19, said of the Democratic leadership in Congress. "It's not a reflection of the general public."

Moreover, odds of impeachment succeeding are all-but-impossible. None of America's 45 presidents have EVER been removed in that way. Though the Democrats control the House of Representatives, where only a simple majority is needed, the U.S. Senate, controlled by Republicans, would have to vote with a two-thirds majority to remove the president from office. That's NEVER going to happen, and everybody knows it!

 

[KeithD]

Meaning the right to wear a sleeveless dress?

Yes, I laughed.

 

[JKendallDane]

The current Democratic Party tactic to bring down the Trump presidency...

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....That's NEVER going to happen, and everybody knows it!

Had to do that to Dump's post because virtually everything in between was C&P'd and then had a dozen or so words changed and/or added which means the entire post is just another laughable attempt by Dump at trying to get away with fucking plagiarism yet again.

I'm not wasting the time to sort through whether you thieved what you wanted from Reuters (which I'd be surprised you ever read) or just stole huge chunks from the Freepers or some blog site called "chicksonright" since those words that aren't yours show up in those places also.

For anyone that's interested in the story, withOUT the plagiarized & altered slants Dump has done to it, here's proper attribution and a link for your convenience.....

Republicans see impeachment backfiring ~ Reuters USA



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(Prediction: Dump will respond with a weaselly, one sentence, semi-confession and then immediately launch into a two or three paragraph, spittle-filled rant about "Joe Biden in 1988 somethin' somethin' somethin' " )

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[JKendallDane]

Originally Posted by Kantarii:
"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit Of Happiness Freedom of speech, the right to bare arms, and due process."


Meaning the right to wear a sleeveless dress?

Yes, I laughed.

Gotta hate it when that GED fails ya'

All is okie-dokie now though because....

"Last edited by Kantarii : Today at 11:20 AM."

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[Dumpington]

Joe Biden's once formidable lead over his 2020 Democratic Party contenders for the nomination continues to wither-away now that more people are becoming acquainted with his effort to BLOCK American aid to the Ukraine unless that nation fired a prosecutor who was investigation his son!

27.8% - Joe Biden - (Crooked Joe's attic is rapidly filling-up with skeletons!)

21.3 - Elizabeth Warren - (Liz appears to be the primary beneficiary of Crooked Joe's steady & ongoing collapse in the polls!)

17.5 - Bernie Sanders - (Bernie remains in 3rd-place, but he's further behind Liz than he once was!)

5.3 - Pete Buttigieg - (And in a distant 4th-place sits Mayor Pete!)

4.7 - Kamala Harris - (The only candidate dropping as quickly as Crooked Joe is the senator from California!)

3.3 - Andrew Yang - (I'm guessing that Yang is hoping for a cabinet position should the Democrats win?)

2.5 - Francis Buttigieg - ("Beto" remains deep in 7th-place!)

source: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ - The other dozen-or-so candidates still running have no serious support!

 

[JackLuis]

Bankers ‘confirm Warren’s whole worldview’ by saying they’ll donate to Trump to defeat anti-Wall Street Senator in 2020

For the second time in three weeks, Sen. Elizabeth Warren embraced Wall Street executives’ fear of her potential presidency after CNBC reported Thursday that several anonymous bankers threatened to back President Donald Trump in the 2020 election if Warren becomes the Democratic nominee.

“I think if she can show that the tax code of 2017 was basically nonsense and only helped corporations, Wall Street would not like the public thinking about that.”
—Wall Street executive

So the Dark Lords plot, their minions squealing in fear!

 

[JackLuis]

Julián Castro warns supporters it’ll be ‘the end of my campaign’ if he doesn’t qualify for November debate

Beto O’Rourke calls on Trump to resign from the White House: ‘Do the right thing’


Kamala Harris calls for New York Bar to investigate Rudy Giuliani — ‘and probably disbar him’

Bernie Sanders rips ‘casual cruelty that motivates Trump and his billionaire friends’

 

[YDB95]

Had to do that to Dump's post because virtually everything in between was C&P'd and then had a dozen or so words changed and/or added which means the entire post is just another laughable attempt by Dump at trying to get away with fucking plagiarism yet again.

Not to mention that it's mostly about poll numbers, which Dump routinely dismisses out of hand because they were wrong once.

 

[JKendallDane]

Not to mention that it's mostly about poll numbers, which Dump routinely dismisses out of hand because they were wrong once.

Plus he found the time to wander in, do his "daily update and slams" of the RC Politics Dem polling (which is the ONLY time he ever bothers with attributions & links), but couldn't find the time to address getting busted fucking plagiarising another whole article for the third time this week.

With his track history of late, I wonder if he just makes up whatever poll numbers he wants to for his "spin of the day" he intends on spewing put.

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[JackLuis]

Dump is a Trumpian bot. His RCP numbers are National Averages.

Fear not the Bot, fear Bill Barr who is the Dark Lords representative.

The Fucktussle will play out over the next year as the Republic is intended to work.

The Rethuglicans will have their own Fucktussle to play. As more Rethug Senators lose their grip, have faith.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Bankers ‘confirm Warren’s whole worldview’ by saying they’ll donate to Trump to defeat anti-Wall Street Senator in 2020



So the Dark Lords plot, their minions squealing in fear!

Yes, people who enjoy private property, individual rights and prosperity fear the anti-American politics promoted by Warren.

Why do you hate the pursuit of happiness so much Jack?

Why can't you lift others up instead of tearing people down??

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "Not to mention that it's mostly about poll numbers, which Dump routinely dismisses out of hand because they were wrong once."

The Democratic Party polls may very well actually be accurate, as the national news media outlets conducting them don't really have an agenda to help a particular candidate, at least not one that I'm aware of. But where President Trump is concerned, they've been repeatedly proven FAR FROM CREDIBLE. Any poll that shows candidates like Bernie Sanders, Liz Warren, Pete Buttigieg, and/or Creepy-Sleepy Joe Biden all defeating President Trump in 2020 are WORTHLESS!

JKendallDane writes: "With his track history of late, I wonder if he just makes up whatever poll numbers he wants to for his "spin of the day" he intends on spewing put."

Those RealClearPolitics.com numbers are taken directly off of that web-site, Jay-Kendall: http://www.realclearpolitics.com - you can go directly to the site if you doubt me! And WHY would they lie, showing "Gropin' Joe" Biden holding a shrinking lead over Liz Warren? They amass data from a half-a-dozen different national polls, and everage them out on a daily basis!

 

[JKendallDane]

JKendallDane writes: "With his track history of late, I wonder if he just makes up whatever poll numbers he wants to for his "spin of the day" he intends on spewing put."

Those RealClearPolitics.com numbers are taken directly off of that web-site, Jay-Kendall: http://www.realclearpolitics.com - you can go directly to the site if you doubt me!

Which is exactly what I do when you post something as your own words that you've obviously fucking plagiarized but not bothered to attribute or link like you do with the RCP polling posts. I've never once bitched at you for adding your snarky opines in blue after the poll numbers, have I, Dump? That's because you make it clear what is fact from RCP and what is Dump..

How come why for can't you do the same thing with stuff you lift and post from everything from obscure blogs to Faux Noise to Reuters?

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[Dumpington]

JKendallDane writes: "Which is exactly what I do when you post something as your own words that you've obviously fucking plagiarized..."

Everytime I post poll numbers, I'm posting somebody else's work, Jay-Kendall! Your FAKE OUTRAGE simply shows that you DISLIKE what it is that I'm posting! You need to grow a pair and address the issues at hand, and not dismiss the whole thing because you're upset with how I point out what's going on in our world today!

You have NEVER ONCE disputed that a crooked hair-sniffer like Joe Biden has been leading in the Democratic Party's race for the presidential nomination since day-one, because the alternative choices are all so incredibly BAD! You refuse to defend Biden or ANY of the other losers because you basically AGREE with everything I'm saying!

But, rather than be honest, and acknowledge that what I'm posting is true, you instead call ME a "Joe Biden," what with our former vice president's history of plagiarism (which forced him to abandon his first presidential run, back in 1987!)

If you have no intention of supporting Joe Biden then why not just SAY SO instead of trying to pretend that I'm just like Creepy-Sleepy Joe?

 

[JKendallDane]

JKendallDane writes: "Which is exactly what I do when you post something as your own words that you've obviously fucking plagiarized..."

Everytime I post poll numbers, I'm posting somebody else's work, Jay-Kendall! Your FAKE OUTRAGE simply shows that you DISLIKE what it is that I'm posting! You need to grow a pair and address the issues at hand, and not dismiss the whole thing because you're upset ***with how*** I point out what's going on in our world today!

Why does it NOT surprise me that you can't (or refuse to) see the irony in your own words?

You have NEVER ONCE disputed that a crooked hair-sniffer like Joe Biden has been leading in the Democratic Party's race for the presidential nomination since day-one, because the alternative choices are all so incredibly BAD! You refuse to defend Biden or ANY of the other losers because you basically AGREE with everything I'm saying!

The only thing I find more amusing than how crazy I make you by not proclaiming my undying, irrevocable, 101% support for any specific Dem candidate more than a YEAR from the election, is how hard I laugh when you invent this "reality" where *I* agree with you on anything.

But, rather than be honest, and acknowledge that what I'm posting is true, you instead call ME a "Joe Biden," what with our former vice president's history of plagiarism (which forced him to abandon his first presidential run, back in 1987!)

Small point of order, Dump...Joe Biden didn't committed plagiarism, where he was giving entire speeches using someone else's stolen words, three plus times a week for the last 44 years. You, on the other hand...

If you have no intention of supporting Joe Biden then why not just SAY SO instead of trying to pretend that I'm just like Creepy-Sleepy Joe?

That's twice in the same post, Dump. You just can't stand it that you can't figure out who I'd vote for if the Florida primary was tomorrow, can you?

Tell ya' what...gimme your three best guesses, in descending order of first through third, and I'll satiate your frustration. Just one rule though, they have to be realistic picks you can justify as to why you chose them. Checkmate, dude.

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[Dumpington]

JKendallDane writes: "Why does it NOT surprise me that you can't (or refuse to) see the irony in your own words?"

Yes, I get it - you see me as another "Joe Biden" - without even realizing just how insulting & demeaning that is! I would NEVER call you a Joe Biden, Jay-Kendall! I don't treat other people like that, not even people with whom I disagree!

"Small point of order, Dump...Joe Biden didn't committed plagiarism..."

Seriously? You're now going to say that Biden's 1988 presidential campaign lasted fewer than four-months simply because he was corrupt? Or maybe just a perverse hair-sniffer? No, that all came much later in his career! Back in '87, it was charges of PLAGIARISM that ended Creepy Joe's first presidential run!

"Checkmate, dude."

Yes, perhaps you are right - it would appear that the House Democrats are now prepared to sacrifice Joe Biden's presidential hopes in an effort to strike another meaningless blow against President Trump.

Liz Peek of FOX News argues that President Trump did something stupid when he asked the president of Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden for corruption - but then, she says, the Democrats did something even stupider.

By jumping so eagerly on the impeachment bandwagon, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her colleagues have taken Biden, the Democrats' most credible candidate, out of contention. The former vice president’s campaign was already on the downslope, but widespread speculation about his possible abuse of office will only accelerate his demise.

Almost certainly, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) will become the new frontrunner, she will win the Democratic Party nomination, and will then almost certainly LOSE to Trump in November of 2020!

There is no disputing the FACT that Hunter Biden accepted a lucrative job in the Ukraine at the same time when his father, who was vice president at the time, became the point-person for the U.S. in that notoriously corrupt country. That Joe allowed his son to do this demonstrates extreme bad judgement by Biden. That he then pushed the Ukrainian government to fire a prosecutor reputed to be investigating his son’s employer is corruption personified!

Meanwhile, Trump supporters are NOT dismayed by this latest witchhunt - they've become used to these endless, empty attacks - and consequently, the Republican-led Senate will NOT throw Trump out of office. It won't even be close.