Democratic Primary Fucktussle!

[JKendallDane]

(Originally posted by Dump) ~ "If you have no intention of supporting Joe Biden then why not just SAY SO instead of trying to pretend that I'm just like Creepy-Sleepy Joe?"

(I responded with) ~ "That's twice in the same post, Dump. You just can't stand it that you can't figure out who I'd vote for if the Florida primary was tomorrow, can you?

Tell ya' what...gimme your three best guesses, in descending order of first through third, and I'll satiate your frustration. Just one rule though, they have to be realistic picks you can justify as to why you chose them. Checkmate, dude."



Umm, Dump. In your cherry-picking of my words you chose to quote and reply to, you seem to have overlooked that bolded red part.

I'll anxiously await your correction of that oversight and pertinent response to my simple challenge.

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[YDB95]

That Joe allowed his son to do this demonstrates extreme bad judgement by Biden.

Hunter Biden was well into his forties at the time. Did you ask your parents for permission to do anything at that age?

 

[Dumpington]

JKendallDane writes: "I'll anxiously await your correction of that oversight and pertinent response to my simple challenge."

Yeah, Jay-Kendall - I'll get right on that!

YDB95 writes: "Hunter Biden was well into his forties at the time. Did you ask your parents for permission to do anything at that age?"

No, Hunter Biden knew full well that, with his father as Vice President, he could get away with all kind of illegal stuff, and his dad would help him. Like when that Ukrainian prosector began investigating his business dealings, and Joe threatened to withhold a billion dollars in U.S. aid to that nation unless that prosecutor was fired!

It's exactly what the House Democrats are now accusing President Trump of doing, and now everybody knows about it! THIS is going to end-up costing Crooked Joe his party's presidential nomination!

 

[JKendallDane]

JKendallDane writes: "I'll anxiously await your correction of that oversight and pertinent response to my simple challenge."

Yeah, Jay-Kendall - I'll get right on that!

You are such a ball-less wonder, Dump.

You constantly bloviate about how you "can read every stupid lib on the board" from dan to YDB to Keith to me, et al...and then you beat your chest about how "you just KNOW who each of us is or isn't supporting." All *I* did was make you an offer to chance confirming your claims by simply giving me your top three guesses for me. *I* am not the one that is running and hiding under mommy's apron now. That would be you.

If all you want to do is "play games" and since you "know ALL the correct answers" why don't you monetize both those things and hit this website where you can sign up to be able to have the chance to stand behind one of the Jeopardy podiums and have Alex Trebek shake your hand?

Just think of the accolades and respect you'll finally deservedly have here at Lit when you prove just how good you really are by blowing away everyone else away in Final Jeopardy. I'll bet they'd even set you up with categories like: "Famous Plagiarists of the 20th Century" and "Republican Presidents who could Walk on Water" and "People Hillary has Murdered" and "Famous Political Conspiracy Theories"... and a sure-fire one you could easily sweep: "Deflections, Diversions, & Bullshit".

Go4iT, Dump! But first...answer my question about who I am and am not "supporting among the top 7 Dem candidates." (yeah, that was a "mercy clue" for ya' )

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[YDB95]

YDB95 writes: "Hunter Biden was well into his forties at the time. Did you ask your parents for permission to do anything at that age?"

No, Hunter Biden knew full well that, with his father as Vice President, he could get away with all kind of illegal stuff, and his dad would help him.

Read my comment again. I said Hunter Biden, not George W.M.D. Bush.

Like when that Ukrainian prosector began investigating his business dealings, and Joe threatened to withhold a billion dollars in U.S. aid to that nation unless that prosecutor was fired!

I can't deny the usual suspects are going to believe that if people like you keep repeating it, but it will still be a lie.

It's exactly what the House Democrats are now accusing President Trump of doing, and now everybody knows about it! THIS is going to end-up costing Crooked Joe his party's presidential nomination!

Shouldn't you WANT that to happen anyway?

 

[KeithD]

You constantly bloviate about how you "can read every stupid lib on the board" from dan to YDB to Keith to me, et al...and then you beat your chest about how "you just KNOW who each of us is or isn't supporting."

Oh, Dump knows who I'm supporting? Good news, as I haven't made up my mind yet (and it's too early for me to try to make up my mind). Maybe he'll just tell me (by way of someone else's quote of him, please, as I have him on ignore) and relieve me of needing to do that myself.

 

[Dumpington]

JKendallDane writes: "You are such a ball-less wonder, Dump."

TRANSLATION: "I despise everybody who doesn't share my progressive anti-Trump political-beliefs!" - Yes, I already know that, Jay-Kendall!

YDB95 writes: "I can't deny the usual suspects are going to believe that if people like you keep repeating it, but it will still be a lie."

Hunter Biden is the one who is destroying his father's hopes of winning the 2020 Democratic Party's presidential nomination, NOT me! Here are the latest national polling averages from RealClearPolitics.com:

27.2% - Joe Biden - (Crooked Joe's candidacy continues its slow & steady collapse in the polls!)

23.0 - Elizabeth Warren - (Liz appears to be the primary beneficiary of Joe's self-inflicted implosion!)

17.8 - Bernie Sanders - (Some of Bernie's socialist supporters appear to be gravitating towards Liz!)

5.4 - Pete Buttigieg - (Mayor Pete has ZERO black support in the Democratic Party!)

4.6 - Kamala Harris - (Kamala's support continues to dwindle away, just like Joe Biden's!)

3.6 - Andrew Yang - (How long before Yang passes Senator Harris?)

2.2 - Francis O'Rourke - ("Beto" maintains his tiny band of loyal supporters!)

Source: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ - who else is still running? I don't even know (or care!)

 

[JKendallDane]

Oh, Dump knows who I'm supporting? Good news, as I haven't made up my mind yet (and it's too early for me to try to make up my mind). Maybe he'll just tell me (by way of someone else's quote of him, please, as I have him on ignore) and relieve me of needing to do that myself.

Now you went and did it, Keith.

Remember those days of you, and me, and Lovecraft always chewing on each other's asses in the AH and you'd announce you had put him on ignore yet again?

You knew he'd go full-on crazy attacking you just to get somebody to quote him...and he did and somebody always did and you'd poke him from behind the curtain and wait until he went hyper nutball again. Lather~Rinse~Repeat Good times! LOL

And you went and baited the hook for Dump the same way because it always works eventually.

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[JKendallDane]

27.2% - Joe Biden - (I really wonder if JKD is a closet Biden supporter??? He DID say once that Uncle Joe sniffed his hair when he was 17.)

23.0 - Elizabeth Warren - (Maybe JKD is into VOTING for a woman??? Have to keep her on the "definite maybe" list for him!)

17.8 - Bernie Sanders - (I can see JKD lovin' on Bernie.since he's nothin' but a far-left Progressive, Marist, commie socialist, tree-huggin' vegan himself anyway and they all stick together so they can give all that free stuff to the welfare cases and illegal wetbacks!)

5.4 - Pete Buttigieg - (I really think JKD is TOTALLY into Mayor Pete but he never says much about him. I thought ALL the fag boys and trannies were on Pete's team for sure.)

4.6 - Kamala Harris - (JKD doesn't even seem to know Kamala exists, so he's either NOT interested in her at all...OR...maybe he's sending her all his food stamp cards and donating half his disablity check to her every month on the sly! YEAH! That'd make sense to me!)

3.6 - Andrew Yang - (Nah. I don't see JKD being into a straight, slant-eye guy. He likes that Jaime-type guy he keeps posting pictures of.)

2.2 - Francis O'Rourke - (I really believe JKD is ALL about Beto and just doesn't want to admit it. I just KNOW that I'm dead-right about that one!)

Damn, you made a LOT of typos in that one, Dump, but I fixed for ya' You're welcome. .

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[Dumpington]

JKendallDane writes: "Damn, you made a LOT of typos in that one, Dump, but I fixed for ya'"

1) I don't believe that ANY Democrats seriously want Crooked Joe to be their party's presidential nominee anymore!

2) I think that Trump will defeat Liz Warren by an even larger margin than he would have defeated Creepy-Sleepy Joe!

3) Bernie will once again lose the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, only this time he won't support that party's nominee!

4) Pete Buttigieg has only the support of gay Democrats, which means that he's got virtually ZILCH support among black voters in that party!

5) Kamala ceased to be a serious contender for the nomination after Tulsi Gabbard tore her a new one in the second debates!

6) Andrew Yang is probably the most successful of the "nobodies" running, but that doesn't mean that he has an actual chance of winning!

7) "Beto" isn't a serious contender anymore, but he'll keep going until the money runs out.

 

[BotanyBoy]

2) I think that Trump will defeat Liz Warren by an even larger margin than he would have defeated Creepy-Sleepy Joe!

100%.....

 

[magicalmoments]

The question is more likely to be: can Pence beat any of the democratic front runners.
Seems to me that it is more and more likely that the chosen one will no be the republican candidate.
Biden will be history, killed by the taint of corruption, fairly or not. Warren... Female candidate, unstable hormonal changes, combined with being hysterical. Bernie, dear old Bernie, not really presidential material is he. So yes Pence it will be. Great... At least he will do as he's told by the party string pullers, he won't be the mad loose canon that is the chosen one.

 

[JKendallDane]

The question is more likely to be: can Pence beat any of the democratic front runners.
Seems to me that it is more and more likely that the chosen one will no be the republican candidate.
Biden will be history, killed by the taint of corruption, fairly or not. Warren... Female candidate, unstable hormonal changes, combined with being hysterical. Bernie, dear old Bernie, not really presidential material is he. So yes Pence it will be. Great... At least he will do as he's told by the party string pullers, he won't be the mad loose canon that is the chosen one.

If 45* does indeed go down before the RNC convention, Pence would be the presumed/assumed "automatic" one pushed up the ladder. Sure, the Falwell Jr/Graham Jr and other assorted evilangelicals will cuddle right up to him, and THAT part of the base will stick with him at a 99.44% Ivory soap level.

BUT...can you honestly see "The Altar Boy" firing up the rest of the 45* base? Maybe 40-50% of them on his "baddest boy" days, but the needed 90% plus all the way through a full election campaign...every day? Mikey can't debase himself that much even if Mother told him it's okay every morning..

He'd also have to first do a Jerry Ford and whip off the "Have to put this behind us for the good of the country..." pardon for Donnie-t or that "He can do no wrong cuz he's one of us dammit!" part of the base would be RUNNING for the exits If 45* goes down, he won't be a disgraced ex-president, he'll become an instant martyr and Mikey can't NOT pardon him unless he is willing to flip the bird to at least 40-50% of the hard-core Donnie-ites.

Now...factor in a couple other wild cards in this deck we're shuffling.

Will 45* suck Pence into his black hole too...either accidentally or intentionally? Impeachment and a Senate trial isn't going to all come down in a 3 or 4 week time frame.We 're probably looking at March-April at best. If Pence would get pulled into it too, then you suddenly have a complete clusterfuck free-for-all happening at the very time when the party should have already coalesced around the final two (maaaybe 3) front runners in a typical primary season.

What about names like Nikki Haley, John Kasich, and even Newt, Chris Christie, and pRick Scott et al, possibly deciding to challenge Pence because of tRump's taint on him? 1992 proved it only takes ONE "White Knight Pat Buchanan-style spoiler" riding in on his trusty steed to totally screw up the incumbent's chances. Go back and remember 1976 again. Reagan was all up in Jerry Ford's business and he didn't just lose TO him in the primaries...he helped Jimmy Carter BEAT Jerry in the process. Fast-forward 44 years and there would be every reason to believe history could repeat itself.

What skeletons haven't fallen (or jumped) out of Pence's closets yet? "Normal" VP candidate vetting is no where near the scrutiny of what the #1 on the ticket gets. Nobody expected 45 ever winning so Pence was a ho-hum, he'll go back to Indiana, finish out his Gov term, and retire back into being a far-right radio talk-show host again. tRump isn't moving to DC so Mikey ain't going be VP either. Who cares what his past is like??? It's a whole NEW ballgame if Pence is suddenly under all the bright lights as #1.

I don't even want to go into your predictions over the Dem side candidates yet. That's a entire other post by itself.

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[JackLuis]

Lobbyists argue Warren's plan to tax federal lobbying would be unconstitutional

Lobbyists lashed out at Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and her proposed tax on corporations and organizations that spend big bucks lobbying the federal government, arguing her plan would be unconstitutional.

“Senator Warren wants to tax people because she doesn’t like them exercising their constitutional right to petition the government. I am sure lots of people would like to tax politicians who give too many speeches, but that isn’t constitutional either,” U.S. Chamber of Commerce Executive Vice President and Chief Policy Officer Neil Bradley told The Hill in a statement Wednesday.

Warren's plan, unveiled Wednesday morning, calls for a 35 percent tax rate on annual lobbying expenditures between $500,000 and $1 million, 60 percent for expenditures between $1 million and $5 million, and 75 percent on all lobbying costs over $5 million.

She referenced the Chamber of Commerce, the top lobbying spender, in her proposal.

The group spent more than $40.6 million in the first two quarters of 2019 and just under $95 million for all of 2018.

That much would pay for a lot of School Lunches!

 

[Dumpington]

magicalmoments writes: "The question is more likely to be: can Pence beat any of the democratic front runners."

Mike Pence will do just fine against whatever candidate the Democrats emerge with in 2024. That party needs to be more concerned with the person who will represent the Democrats next year! And NO, it doesn't look like it's going to be Crooked Joe!

26.1% - Joe Biden - (Creepy-Sleepy Joe's collapse continues as the Ukraine story continues to unfold!)

24.4 - Elizabeth Warren - (Is Pocahontas Warren REALLY the best the Dems can come up with in 2020?)

16.7 - Bernie Sanders - (Bernie's health is beginning to look like it's going to be a factor in his continuing his candidacy!)

5.6 - Pete Buttigieg - (Mayor Pete polls strongly with GAY Democrats, but not so much with BLACK Democrats!)

4.7 - Kamala Harris - (Kamala is hoping that some of those people deserting Joe will come to her!)

3.3 - Andrew Yang - (As one of the "nobodies" running, he's doing better than the rest of the pack!)

2.1 - Francis O'Rourke - (Most people expected "Beto" to be a far better candidate than he turned out to be!)

Source: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ - If it comes down to Trump vs. Liz in 2020, the president is going to kick her socialist butt!

 

[YDB95]

24.4 - Elizabeth Warren - (Is Pocahontas Warren REALLY the best the Dems can come up with in 2020?)

Evidently you haven't noticed, the more people like you slur her, the better her poll numbers get. Keep on slimin', Dump!

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "Evidently you haven't noticed, the more people like you slur her, the better her poll numbers get. Keep on slimin', Dump!"

You and I are on the SAME PAGE, YDB95 - I WANT Liz to be the Democratic Party's 2020 presidential candidate more than you know!

Initially, I liked the idea of President Trump facing former vice-president Joe Biden, as it reminded me of President Reagan facing former vice-president Walter Mondale in 1984 and handing him one of the worst landslide defeats in U.S. election history!

54,455,472 - 58.77% - 525 electoral votes - Ronald Reagan '84
37,577,352 - 40.56% - 13 electoral votes - Walter Mondale '84

But President Trump facing Elizabeth Warren reminds me of 1972, when the Democrats moved ridiculously far to the left & nominated Senator George McGovern, who was landslided in a massive blow-out victory for President Nixon! McGovern won ONLY the state of Massachusetts & the District of Columbia! I could see Senator Warren doing the same!

47,168,710 - 60.67% - 520 electoral votes - Richard Nixon '72
29,173,222 - 37.52% - 17 electoral votes - George McGovern '72

 

[YDB95]

"Ridiculously far to the left"...Again, Dump, everyone here knows you would say that about the Dems no matter whom they nominate. And election results from decades ago mean nothing today.

 

[JackLuis]

Maybe Dump has a point, perhaps the country isn't ready for Liz? It wasn't ready for HRC, and picked Trump because they are dumb. Trump was an asshole and gets worse with bootlickers like Miller poking his rage.

Maybe the country needs a anti-war centrist like Tulsi to get us back on an even keel and prosecute the Rethuglican traitors? I'm sure Kamala would love to be AG and slap the Rethugs up against the wall!

 

[JackLuis]

BREAKING: Bernie Sanders Treated For Chest Pain; Campaign Events Canceled

We wish the Senator a rapid recovery.

After feeling chest pains yesterday, the senator went the hospital where he was diagnosed with a blockage in one artery. Two stents were inserted.

Campaign events have been canceled until further notice.

Get well Bernie, the country needs you to impeach and convict the Trumper.

 

[BotanyBoy]

"Ridiculously far to the left"...Again, Dump, everyone here knows you would say that about the Dems no matter whom they nominate. And election results from decades ago mean nothing today.

To be fair...

Considering Biden and Gabbard are the only two 2020 WH runners that aren't hammer and sickle wielding socialist?

A move "ridiculously far to the left" is a pretty appropriate description of the (D)'s political position on the L v R scale.

They've gotten pretty authoritarian about it too....no longer liberal by any measure. Even a lot of the most derpa derp "Ahhh hate me sum liburhulz!" conservatives are realizing, they are no longer liberals, not at all.

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "'Ridiculously far to the left'...Again, Dump, everyone here knows you would say that about the Dems no matter whom they nominate."

George McGovern was definitely "ridiculously far to the left" - and certainly when compared with '68 Dem-candidate Hubert Humphrey (who narrowly lost), or '76 Dem-candidate Jimmy Carter (who narrowly won!) And yes, Liz is "ridiculously farther to the left" than Joe Biden or even Hillary! She is a recipe for DISASTER for the 2020 Democrats!

JackLuis writes: "Maybe Dump has a point, perhaps the country isn't ready for Liz?"

Senator Warren is the OBVIOUS choice once Biden's campaign collapses, Jack! Bernie's health is going to end his own candidacy, while neither Buttigieg nor Kamala is seriously positioned to mount a serious challenge to stop Warren's ultimate drive for the nomination.

"Maybe the country needs a anti-war centrist like Tulsi to get us back on an even keel..."

The last time the Democrats nominated a candidate who wasn't an incumbent president, an incumbent (or former) vice president, state governor, or U.S. Senator was probably Horace Greeley, way back in 1872, and it didn't end well. Greeley got landslided by incumbent Republican President Ulysses Grant. I don't think it's Tulsi's time just yet. Her primary accomplishment thus far this election season has been to demolish Kamala Harris's presidential hopes in that second series of debates!

 

[KeithD]

BREAKING: Bernie Sanders Treated For Chest Pain; Campaign Events Canceled



Get well Bernie, the country needs you to impeach and convict the Trumper.

Leave it to you to not see the obvious writing on the wall on this one.

 

[JackLuis]

Leave it to you to not see the obvious writing on the wall on this one.

‘On message as always’: Sanders works his heart procedure into case for Medicare for All as #GetWellBernie trends

“None of us know when a medical emergency might affect us. And no one should fear going bankrupt if it occurs. Medicare for All!”

As the outpouring of well-wishes from presidential candidates, progressive activists, celebrities, lawmakers, and thousands of ordinary Americans continued Thursday morning, Sen. Bernie Sanders tweeted a note of gratitude for the support following his successful heart procedure and—always on message—immediately worked the treatment into his case for Medicare for All.

Give us the benefit of your wisdom, oh Pilot!

 

[KeithD]

‘On message as always’: Sanders works his heart procedure into case for Medicare for All as #GetWellBernie trends



Give us the benefit of your wisdom, oh Pilot!

OK. 78 is too old to be running for president. Everyone knows that (so do you) except for maybe Bernie. You may want to pretend that this health reminder is lost on voters, but then you're a rabid Bernie fan. Let's see how he compares with Warren in the next polls for the progressive Democratic vote. As I noted, there's no surprise in how you reacted to this.