Are you ever "justified" in using a racial slur?

[BlackShanglan]

I've been kicked out of forums for quoting the N word in defense of PC - probobly by racists on the losing side of the argument - so for practical reasons, no - for emotional and personal reasons, also no, although the shock value can occasionally facilitate actual humor, most racial based humor is really just small minded bias posing as humor, it's intellectually lazy, atavistic, and may well reflect underlying fundamental mental deficiancies IMO.

*nods* One can never behave in an intellectually lazy way without injury, either. It advertises to others the level of one's thinking, and if one isn't careful, it begins a habit that will grow increasingly difficult to break.

 

[English Lady]

Can I hide in your nice, fluffy threads, too? Particularly the section where your big, beautifulicious bazoombas are?

I don't mean to crowd in where I wasn't invited, but my therapist (some call him "bartender") tells me to "think of a happy place," so...

*giggles and blushes* you can hide in my bazoombas any time you like, love.

*blushes some more*

/threadjack

 

[xssve]

*nods* One can never behave in an intellectually lazy way without injury, either. It advertises to others the level of one's thinking, and if one isn't careful, it begins a habit that will grow increasingly difficult to break.

I also got kicked out of a forum for referring to "those dirty rotten Belgian bastards" - go figure.

 

[Remec]

Minor threadjack (cont'd)

*giggles and blushes* you can hide in my bazoombas any time you like, love.
*blushes some more*
/threadjack

Sounds like the perfect place to me too...can I drop by when they're not hiding out? *smile, wink*

 

[English Lady]

Sounds like the perfect place to me too...can I drop by when they're not hiding out? *smile, wink*

why not? there's plenty of room

 

[xssve]

*nods* One can never behave in an intellectually lazy way without injury, either. It advertises to others the level of one's thinking, and if one isn't careful, it begins a habit that will grow increasingly difficult to break.

Yep, pretty soon you'll be presenting "self evident" arguments and being utterly convinced that it constitutes a valid debate like poor benighted amicus.

 

[flavortang]

I call my kids 'honkies' and 'crackas' all the time. (their mom is white and blonde)

I do like to go into tirades sometimes, making claims that my kids are oppressing me, because they're "The Man". Well, half-"The Man", since they're only half-white.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I call my kids 'honkies' and 'crackas' all the time. (their mom is white and blonde)

I do like to go into tirades sometimes, making claims that my kids are oppressing me, because they're "The Man". Well, half-"The Man", since they're only half-white.

That just means they oppress themselves, right?

Or at least their bodies oppress half of theirselves. Like one leg wants to walk, but the other "more White" leg tries to deliberately trip it whenever it starts. And then they get nowhere at all.

woooooo...cue in "special philly-sophical wisdom moment thru obscure symbolic metaphor music" right there!

 

[flavortang]

That just means they oppress themselves, right?

Or at least their bodies oppress half of theirselves. Like one leg wants to walk, but the other "more White" leg tries to deliberately trip it whenever it starts. And then they get nowhere at all.

woooooo...cue in "special philly-sophical wisdom moment thru obscure symbolic metaphor music" right there!

Well, they are conflicted, for sure. It doesn't help that they're 1/16th Native American. That just opens up a whole other can of worms.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Unfortunately I can't defend myself here without causing more drama, but Recidiva is lying. She attacked me first, as have 99% of people who have a problem with me.

If you want documentation about how much of a victim she and others here are not, PM me and I'll be glad to oblige. I'm not holding my breath though.

Sorry, I'm out now.

 

[cantdog]

Eat it. Alla ya. Eat it.

Race is so fuckin dumb.

We're all human, you cretins.

Human and so therefore subject to error. Laugh and forgive. It's the only way. And forgive yourself, too.

 

[Wyldfire]

Unfortunately I can't defend myself here without causing more drama, but Recidiva is lying. She attacked me first, as have 99% of people who have a problem with me.

If you want documentation about how much of a victim she and others here are not, PM me and I'll be glad to oblige. I'm not holding my breath though.

Sorry, I'm out now.

How about I say this before I leave the thread be? Here's where this part of the 99% got into it with you.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=543318&page=5&pp=25

Let people see for themselves if I "attacked" you or corrected a world view. They can decide for themselves.

 

[cantdog]

Niggah.

 

[rengadeirishman]

Let me first state that I spent my younger years as Whi' Boy in an almost all negro area. I have, I rhink as a result, a rather finely tuned sense of racism, since I was subjected to it on a daily basis until it bacame clear to da boyz that such an attitude could be dangerous to one's health.

ahh, someone have a similar upbringing. I live in a 99% black neighborhood, in a city about 75% black. But i also had school friends in harford county, which is a lot more rural. I for years have been an obvious target for racism. Often by those who, due to my size and distinctly pale complexion, think they and a few buddies should jump me to prove "how hard they is". They of course, believed that due to my whiteness, that i would be unable to defend myself against the superior fighting skills they inherently possessed due to their colour.


They were wrong.

on the other hand, when im in harford county, its always "nigger this, nigger that, and those fucking niggers" etc. etc. which just baffles me, because i know that no one will tell them off for it. I will simply say. "you oughta learn to guard your tongue lad, because one day someone will rip it out."

Alas, i do so enjoy the AH, where i can have a decent conversation without someone saying "your only 19," or insulting me based on the fact that most of my posts are on the ORP. GB stuff should stay there, just as AH stuff should stay here. But of course, no will listen to me and the cycle will merely continue

 

[English Lady]

Eat it. Alla ya. Eat it.

Race is so fuckin dumb.

We're all human, you cretins.

Human and so therefore subject to error. Laugh and forgive. It's the only way. And forgive yourself, too.

Amen, cantdog. Amen!

 

[flavortang]

Eat it. Alla ya. Eat it.

Race is so fuckin dumb.

We're all human, you cretins.

Human and so therefore subject to error. Laugh and forgive. It's the only way. And forgive yourself, too.

Very true.

Except for the Dutch... The Dutch need to be collectively exterminated. Those Dutch...

 

[sr71plt]

Very true.

Except for the Dutch... The Dutch need to be collectively exterminated. Those Dutch...

And the Andorans. They all have shifty eyes.

 

[Recidiva]

Unfortunately I can't defend myself here without causing more drama, but Recidiva is lying. She attacked me first, as have 99% of people who have a problem with me.

If you want documentation about how much of a victim she and others here are not, PM me and I'll be glad to oblige. I'm not holding my breath though.

Sorry, I'm out now.

There are hundreds of pages of context here, most of which are being ignored.

If you want to take one sentence of a very long and complicated debate about race attitudes and why I think racism is more complicated than you try to make it, and why I'm entitled to my opinion, that's your deal.

I've attempted to discuss, I've attempted to explain. I've tried patience, humor and reason. All of which you've ignored.

So patience, humor and reason are what still remain. Along with forgiveness. As I've mentioned before, there's nothing you can do or say that I won't forgive. I'm grateful that there are people who understand and honor my opinion and have bothered to try to understand.

They are people of sterling value. Had you not gone through this whole thing, I'd have no opportunity to have met them.

So thank you.

 

[xssve]

Rereading the OP, I have to say that escalting a racial slur exchange is wrong - and by that I mean that you'll both just endign up spreading hate and discontent, nad there just isn't any way you can come out on top in such an exchange. To respond with a racial/cultural slur with another simply denotes a lack of imagination, there are better responses that will allow you to come off better than your attacker.

I discovered this by accident, the whole thing stiriking me as totally absurd, just my nature I guess, but I typically respond with hysterical laughter at the idea that somebody thinks they can diminish me with thier ridiculous epithets - the funny thing is, I've reduced grown men to tears by laughing like that, go figure.

On the other side, I've seen how much it hurts people who maybe have more emotional investment in lablels than I do.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Rereading the OP, I have to say that escalting a racial slur exchange is wrong - and by that I mean that you'll both just endign up spreading hate and discontent, nad there just isn't any way you can come out on top in such an exchange. To respond with a racial/cultural slur with another simply denotes a lack of imagination, there are better responses that will allow you to come off better than your attacker.

I discovered this by accident, the whole thing stiriking me as totally absurd, just my nature I guess, but I typically respond with hysterical laughter at the idea that somebody thinks they can diminish me with thier ridiculous epithets - the funny thing is, I've reduced grown men to tears by laughing like that, go figure.

*nods* The most effective response to a racial slur that I've seen was a patient expression, a faint smile, and a calm, genteel "Excuse me" as the target continued about his business. My only warning about this approach is that it's so much more crushing than responding in type that you'll want to keep an eye on the person you do it to; the feeling of utter impotence can drive fools to violence.

 

[Recidiva]

*nods* The most effective response to a racial slur that I've seen was a patient expression, a faint smile, and a calm, genteel "Excuse me" as the target continued about his business. My only warning about this approach is that it's so much more crushing than responding in type that you'll want to keep an eye on the person you do it to; the feeling of utter impotence can drive fools to violence.

But LT threatens violence all the time. To me, to my kids, to any white cracker he can reach to curb stomp.

Considering my original argument that had to do with the uselessness of racial words, this is ironic.

This is the result to me refusing to call him a racial slur and insisting racial slurs have no power over me, nor do I grant them any power.

He is deeply offended by that concept.

I've had him on ignore, he still continues to insult and threaten me and my family. I've apologized offending him though I retain my opinion, (and experience with him has enforced it) but he persists.

So what do I do, once a fool has reached violence? I can ignore him, I have. I can find him funny, I have. If I put him on ignore I'm a coward. He will continue to drag this everywhere, and insult my kids. I'm afraid that's the point it become more serious for me.

It's lovely he wants an apology from me. He's even gotten one. However, I do like keeping an eye on the crazy guy who has been so obsessed as to make me deal with the results of his handiwork here.

So what...do I do?

It's not enough that we can agree to disagree. He wants to see me humbled, humiliated, that's his goal. What do you do against that sort of tenacity? Marvel, surely.

But what strategy do I take against this? You really think if I ignore him, he'll go away? After how long of him harping on this?

Or should I just leave and pretend it isn't there? That's the part that gets me. I'm not a person that pretends things aren't there. And I really don't believe this is a non-issue. It's a serious issue, one that causes such squeamishness in some and blindness in others, I'm fascinated.

So I'll persist in paying attention. Because here it is truly harmless. I meet someone like this in real life though, I'll never be able to pretend people really aren't this crazy or obsessed, or potentially violent.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You handle racial slurs the same way you handle any perjorative.

 

[Recidiva]

You handle racial slurs the same way you handle any perjorative.

And if I don't kiss the ass of the person who wants me to worship his race and acknowledge how much mine sucks and how backward I am, and I tell him to fuck off, I'm clearly a racist.

 

[inlovewithyourghost]

And if I don't kiss the ass of the person who wants me to worship his race and acknowledge how much mine sucks and how backward I am, and I tell him to fuck off, I'm clearly a racist.

Clearly. So bring your backward racist cracker butt over here and get some hugs!

 

[Recidiva]

Clearly. So bring your backward racist cracker butt over here and get some hugs!

Yaaay!

Forgive me for being a racist bitch. I curse your ancestors. Really.

Hugs.