Are you ever "justified" in using a racial slur?

If called a racial slur, does that make it right to retaliate with one as well?

  • Yes, retaliatory use of racial slurs is acceptable

    Votes: 4 6.9%
  • No, use of racial epithets is never justified retaliatory or not

    Votes: 53 91.4%
  • I'm not sure / other: elaborate in a post if you wish

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • Total voters
    58
Trick question I'm guessing.

If I was, would you consider that indicative of a heightened state of emotional pain?
 
xssve said:
Trick question I'm guessing.

If I was, would you consider that indicative of a heightened state of emotional pain?
It is a trick question, in a way, because LT has done that as a result of someone on Lit posting stuff that made him angry, and I was just wondering if you were as unbalanced as he apparently is.
 
And under the conditions, would you feel justified in provoking such a response?
 
xssve said:
Trick question I'm guessing.

If I was, would you consider that indicative of a heightened state of emotional pain?

How is that a trick question?

Really, the obvious sane answer is "no."

If it's a trick then I am concerned. But I was concerned already so hey.
 
So you do feel justified in continuing to bait him.

Me I see his point, clearly you're too chickenshit to say whatever it is you're saying to his face.

Advantage: LT.
 
xssve said:
So you do feel justified in continuing to bait him.

Me I see his point, clearly you're too chickenshit to say whatever it is you're saying to his face.

Advantage: LT.

I don't bait him. My life goes on perfectly happily without LT managing to flood threads with porn and hatred.

I just don't fall for the bait and point it out as I step over it.

You're just not terribly bright or experienced enough in the world of baiting to get the difference.
 
What it indicates to me is that LT is picking up on White Supremist tactics, as this a very common response from these guys, with the difference that they're organized, and rather than going to personal expense, they'll simply make a phone call.

Try it.
 
Recidiva said:
I don't bait him. My life goes on perfectly happily without LT managing to flood threads with porn and hatred.

I just don't fall for the bait and point it out as I step over it.

You're just not terribly bright or experienced enough in the world of baiting to get the difference.

Sweaty, very sweaty, you're trying too hard.
 
xssve said:
What it indicates to me is that LT is picking up on White Supremist tactics, as this a very common response from these guys, with the difference that they're organized, and rather than going to personal expense, they'll simply make a phone call.

Try it.

Picking up on as in I'm a White Supremacist and he's onto me, or LT is using the same tactics as?
 
Byron In Exile said:
It is a trick question, in a way, because LT has done that as a result of someone on Lit posting stuff that made him angry, and I was just wondering if you were as unbalanced as he apparently is.

They, of course, would not stop with you, they wouldn't even start with you.
 
xssve said:
And under the conditions, would you feel justified in provoking such a response?
The only person who can control your actions is you.

I could say "fuck off" to you and you might get mad and go out and shoot up a school.
 
Recidiva said:
Picking up on as in I'm a White Supremacist and he's onto me, or LT is using the same tactics as?

This is simply the level of discourse we're talking about here. These are violent people, it's a way of life for them, the justification for their entire existence.

In time, I imagine LT will realize the futility of it - they aren't going to change and he's just gonna end up with ulcers.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about, the amount of stress we're talking about here: literally, we're talking about stress related brain damage, a form of PTSD - adreneline is chemically corrosive.

I'm sure you find that very amusing.
 
xssve said:
This is simply the level of discourse we're talking about here. These are violent people, it's a way of life for them, the justification for their entire existence.

In time, I imagine LT will realize the futility of it - they aren't going to change and he's just gonna end up with ulcers.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about, the amount of stress we're talking about here: literally, we're talking about stress related brain damage, a form of PTSD - adreneline is chemically corrosive.

I'm sure you find that very amusing.

I agree with you, in fact.

I like making people get ulcers by refusing to get worked up and violent. It's the way of my tribe.

The more time they waste on me, the less time they spend on someone who might be affected by their hatred.
 
xssve said:
So you do feel justified in continuing to bait him.
He baits me a hundred times more than I bait him, but it doesn't make me angry, nor do I feel the urge to resort to violence about anything I read.

Me I see his point, clearly you're too chickenshit to say whatever it is you're saying to his face.
In real life, I wouldn't even give someone like that the time of day. I don't interact with stupid violent angry lying racist psychopaths like him at all.
 
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Byron In Exile said:
He baits me a hundred times more than I bait him, but it doesn't make me angry, nor do I feel the urge to resort to violence about anything I read.

In real life, I wouldn't even give someone like that the time of day. I don't interact with stupid violent angry lying racist psychopaths like him at all.

When's the last time someone threatened to hang you, burn your house, murder your family? Any historical legacy of such threats being acted upon?

I can guarantee LT recives such threats regularly, I have quite a collection myself, I'm not Black but I am a "race traitor" - the difference being that I'm not also dealing with a long and well established historical tradition of such threats being carried out with the perpetrators being shielded from the legal consequences, even applauded, not to anywhere near the extent that every single Black person in the world is aware of, and forced to consider in every exchange of this nature.

There are no words strong enough to describe how careless your trite suburban fantasies of race relations are, there are only two sides here, pick one.
 
xssve said:
When's the last time someone threatened to hang you, burn your house, murder your family? Any historical legacy of such threats being acted upon?

I can guarantee LT recives such threats regularly, I have quite a collection myself, I'm not Black but I am a "race traitor" - the difference being that I'm not also dealing with a long and well established historical tradition of such threats being carried out with the perpetrators being shielded from the legal consequences, even applauded, not to anywhere near the extent that every single Black person in the world is aware of, and forced to consider in every exchange of this nature.

There are no words strong enough to describe how careless your trite suburban fantasies of race relations are, there are only two sides here, pick one.

Actually, the last threat came from LT.

And I'm afraid your concept of who I am, what I'm endured, and the "sheltered" image of why you think I'm afraid, chickenshit and unable to deal with actual racial issues, instead of pretend racial bullshit, is in fact...racist.
 
Recidiva said:
Actually, the last threat came from LT.

And I'm afraid your concept of who I am, what I'm endured, and the "sheltered" image of why you think I'm afraid, chickenshit and unable to deal with actual racial issues, instead of pretend racial bullshit, is in fact...racist.

Yes, what terrible risks you must be running, it's so very brave an noble of you - you aren't he only one deriving amusement from LT's discomfort, I'm sure you have all kinds of new freinds.

If LT is turning into a racist, it seems he's justified - of course if he has White freind, then he can't be a racist according to the Recidiva exception, so you'll have to take it back.

And here I am, I love that racist motherfucker, not because he's Black but because he's a human being and nobody ought to have to put up with this kind of bullshit, even you, although you seem to have a taste for it.

This discussion now officially belongs on the General Board where such threads are unfortunately par for the course, and has since it became not a serious question, but an excuse for another virutal lynching, take your race baiting bullshit there.
 
xssve said:
When's the last time someone threatened to hang you, burn your house, murder your family? Any historical legacy of such threats being acted upon?
If there were, would that justify me engaging in violent acts against people who had nothing to do with any of that based on my perception of what their race is?

I can guarantee LT recives such threats regularly,
You can guarantee no such thing. You can't even guarantee that LT isn't a White Supremacist himself masquerading as an angry racist psychotic black person as part of a propaganda campaign to generate racial tension.

I have quite a collection myself, I'm not Black but I am a "race traitor" - the difference being that I'm not also dealing with a long and well established historical tradition of such threats being carried out with the perpetrators being shielded from the legal consequences, even applauded, not to anywhere near the extent that every single Black person in the world is aware of, and forced to consider in every exchange of this nature.
Okay... so?

There are no words strong enough to describe how careless your trite suburban fantasies of race relations are, there are only two sides here, pick one.
You don't even know what race I am, let alone anything else about me, so you're really out on a limb and sawing toward the trunk here.
 
xssve said:
Yes, what terrible risks you must be running, it's so very brave an noble of you - you aren't he only one deriving amusement from LT's discomfort, I'm sure you have all kinds of new freinds.

If LT is turning into a racist, it seems he's justified - of course if he has White freind, then he can't be a racist according to the Recidiva exception, so you'll have to take it back.

And here I am, I love that racist motherfucker, not because he's Black but because he's a human being and nobody ought to have to put up with this kind of bullshit, even you, although you seem to have a taste for it.

This discussion now officially belongs on the General Board where such threads are unfortunately par for the course, and has since it became not a serious question, but an excuse for another virutal lynching, take your race baiting bullshit there.

I'm deriving amusement from his discomfort because he thrives upon discomfort. He is a masochist of no minor repute.

You can love him as much as you want and hate me as much as you want. Just make the choice based on something other than race.
 
Byron In Exile said:
If there were, would that justify me engaging in violent acts against people who had nothing to do with any of that based on my perception of what their race is?

You can guarantee no such thing. You can't even guarantee that LT isn't a White Supremacist himself masquerading as an angry racist psychotic black person as part of a propaganda campaign to generate racial tension.

Okay... so?

You don't even know what race I am, let alone anything else about me, so you're really out on a limb and sawing toward the trunk here.

Duh-da-doh. Maybe you'll understand when you're old enough.
 
xssve said:
Yes, what terrible risks you must be running, it's so very brave an noble of you - you aren't he only one deriving amusement from LT's discomfort, I'm sure you have all kinds of new freinds.
Boy are you out of the loop.

If LT is turning into a racist, it seems he's justified - of course if he has White freind, then he can't be a racist according to the Recidiva exception, so you'll have to take it back.
He ain't turning. And you sound like every bit as much of a racist as he is. You two are going to make a great team.

And here I am, I love that racist motherfucker, not because he's Black but because he's a human being and nobody ought to have to put up with this kind of bullshit, even you, although you seem to have a taste for it.
Why don't you love us, too? We've been putting up with LT's bullshit for four years.

This discussion now officially belongs on the General Board where such threads are unfortunately par for the course, and has since it became not a serious question, but an excuse for another virutal lynching, take your race baiting bullshit there.
This discussion belongs right where it is.

Officially.
 
xssve said:
Duh-da-doh. Maybe you'll understand when you're old enough.
You only said that because this is the Internet and you're too chickenshit to say it to my face.
 
Byron In Exile said:
Boy are you out of the loop.

He ain't turning. And you sound like every bit as much of a racist as he is. You two are going to make a great team.

Why don't you love us, too? We've been putting up with LT's bullshit for four years.

This discussion belongs right where it is.

Officially.

It reminds me of "good advice" to doctors in the emergency room.

"Why aren't you guys panicking? Don't you see the blood? THE BLOOD!"

Quickly evolving into:

"Ir there's blood, it's because you guys love pain! You cut them yourself! Ghouls!"
 
Recidiva said:
I'm deriving amusement from his discomfort because he thrives upon discomfort. He is a masochist of no minor repute.

You can love him as much as you want and hate me as much as you want. Just make the choice based on something other than race.

I don't hate you, I pity you - you hate him because you hurt him, and you have to justify it in order to avoid feeling guilty - mesomorph?

As far as it goes with you LT, we don't have to like... hug or anything, I'll buy you a beer if you ever get out this way. Me, I'd quit arguing with these marble eyed microencephelaphs, but it's not as much strain as they seem to think it is.

My interest in these sheltered simpletons here is clear if you know anything about me - is it live or is it memorex? That's the question, I'm very interested in the anoetic aspects of culture in terms of cereberal function - we are both arguing with wind up toys, I'm afraid, it's the human condition but I'm curious if there a gesture that can get the record to skip.

Play:
 
Byron In Exile said:
You only said that because this is the Internet and you're too chickenshit to say it to my face.

Knock yourself out, you'll have to pay for your own bus ticket though.
 
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