Are you ever "justified" in using a racial slur?

If called a racial slur, does that make it right to retaliate with one as well?

  • Yes, retaliatory use of racial slurs is acceptable

    Votes: 4 6.9%
  • No, use of racial epithets is never justified retaliatory or not

    Votes: 53 91.4%
  • I'm not sure / other: elaborate in a post if you wish

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • Total voters
    58
Jenny_Jackson said:
[Threadjack] Wow, Recidiva!! That AV is HAWT! [Endjack]

Thank you! LunaWolf and I are trading aspects.

I don't think I'm giving it back, either.

And I'm going to steal her AmPics feedback too.
 
Recidiva said:
Yes, you're attempting to behave like Socrates. That only works if I consider myself one of your students and I want access to your wisdom. I don't.

I'm simply pointing out a huge gap between your understanding of science, and its actual medical practical applications.

My opinion of your methods and assertations remains. So you'll have to struggle with an answer that has a few more words than just two.

And of course, your opinions are simply that, and will remain so as long as you are incapable of responding with anything more substantive than "I had an MRI" a few weeks ago".

To get a somewhat accurate picture of the possible emotional state of a person you need much more than just an MRI.

You need a Functional MRI scan, a PET scan and an EEG. You have to first establish a baseline test and then trigger specific emotions for comparison. Several hours with an MRI alone are going to get you some pretty good pictures of the brain, thats about it. If you can even figure out how to turn the thing on.

Ah, you caught me in an exaggeration, that must mean you were right all along, you and your lovely wife can comfort each other with this overwhelming victory, I graduated from grade school a long time ago. I have more productive things to do than try to catch you two up on modern technology and it's applications in psychology, but do feel free to persue the subject on your own time.
 
xssve said:
And of course, your opinions are simply that, and will remain so as long as you are incapable of responding with anything more substantive than "I had an MRI" a few weeks ago".



Ah, you caught me in an exaggeration, that must mean you were right all along, you and your lovely wife can comfort each other with this overwhelming victory, I graduated from grade school a long time ago. I have more productive things to do than try to catch you two up on modern technology and it's applications in psychology, but do feel free to persue the subject on your own time.

How about the fact that I review radiology reports all day long? Enough for you? That I review about 100+ medical cases a day in all realms of neurology and psychology? That it's my job and I get paid for it?

We didn't catch you in an exaggeration, we caught you asserting bullshit that has no connection to reality.
 
I'm sorry, are you under the delusional misconception that anything you have posted thus far has effectively refuted anything I've said? You haven't even adressed it, in fact, and you are apparently content to deny the very existence of documented technologies.

And no, that's not enough for me, I build houess, doesn't qualify me to build skyscrapers, this is simple stuff, get a grip.
 
My aunt and uncle had an old mare on their farm where I summered (well, banished by the parents so they could have little quiet time). I recall quite well finding her in the lower pasture with a broken leg. Victim to a gopher hole attack. My uncle went back to the house while I sat with Nell, brought back his rifle and put her out of her misery. "Nothin we can do," he said, "she's too old and won't recover."

Anyone have a gun? This thread should have been put out of its misery after the vote was in. The quesiton has been answered. Resoundingly I might add.
 
JPMMURPHY said:
My aunt and uncle had an old mare on their farm where I summered (well, banished by the parents so they could have little quiet time). I recall quite well finding her in the lower pasture with a broken leg. Victim to a gopher hole attack. My uncle went back to the house while I sat with Nell, brought back his rifle and put her out of her misery. "Nothin we can do," he said, "she's too old and won't recover."

Anyone have a gun? This thread should have been put out of its misery after the vote was in. The quesiton has been answered. Resoundingly I might add.

I love when people bump stuff to say "stop talking!"

Ironic, a bit :)
 
Hello. I was lurking a bit on the past couple of pages and there was talk about other's emotions. Then I remember something about MRIs, black holes and Stargate. So forgive me, but despite having been entertained, I seem to have forgotten what you all were discussing.
 
jomar said:
Hello. I was lurking a bit on the past couple of pages and there was talk about other's emotions. Then I remember something about MRIs, black holes and Stargate. So forgive me, but despite having been entertained, I seem to have forgotten what you all were discussing.

Well, I believe that's technically a tangent.

I'm deeply amused, but that's my usual state.
 
Recidiva said:
Well, I believe that's technically a tangent.

I'm deeply amused, but that's my usual state.

Helluva tangent.

And glad to see I'm not the only one.
 
jomar said:
Helluva tangent.

And glad to see I'm not the only one.

Well, yes, the actual title of the thread leaves little doubt as to the actual social answer.

To me, anyway.

But if I say "no" then people will argue with me and tell me I really mean "yes", which I don't. And since people telling me what I think doesn't actually change the way I think, well, there's your silly.
 
Recidiva said:
Well, yes, the actual title of the thread leaves little doubt as to the actual social answer.

To me, anyway.

But if I say "no" then people will argue with me and tell me I really mean "yes", which I don't. And since people telling me what I think doesn't actually change the way I think, well, there's your silly.

I did tune in at the outset, but it quickly seemed more personal, so I didn't weigh in and checked back today. Whew, things sure got stirred up, eh?
 
jomar said:
I did tune in at the outset, but it quickly seemed more personal, so I didn't weigh in and checked back today. Whew, things sure got stirred up, eh?

LT is on a crusade. I'm a bad evil lady and must be vanquished.

This vendetta must be carried across all boards.

So let it be written, so let it be...um...mocked.
 
Recidiva is insistent upon attacking me on the AH...

Recidiva said:
LT is on a crusade. I'm a bad evil lady and must be vanquished.

This vendetta must be carried across all boards.

So let it be written, so let it be...um...mocked.
You said something that is totally racist, and you said it to me. And it was something that was totally cowardly. Then you turned around and tried say racial slurs are not racial slurs on any incident that they're said to me. You are totally friendly with a dude who spews racial slurs when none are being heaped on him. In other words, you don't really believe what you say about racism - because your actions contradict you.

"This vendetta must be carried across all boards"? Yeah, by you. You made this thread to go after me on the AH and cause drama where there was none here. You made this thread in order to manipulate the AH to your agenda. You made this thread and avoided discussing your real agenda behind doing so.

You made this thread without telling them about the racial slur YOU threw at me.

I'm tired of you telling the AH only ONE SIDE of things.
 
LovingTongue said:
You said something that is totally racist, and you said it to me. And it was something that was totally cowardly. Then you turned around and tried say racial slurs are not racial slurs on any incident that they're said to me. You are totally friendly with a dude who spews racial slurs when none are being heaped on him. In other words, you don't really believe what you say about racism - because your actions contradict you.

"This vendetta must be carried across all boards"? Yeah, by you. You made this thread to go after me on the AH and cause drama where there was none here. You made this thread in order to manipulate the AH to your agenda. You made this thread and avoided discussing your real agenda behind doing so.

You made this thread without telling them about the racial slur YOU threw at me.

I'm tired of you telling the AH only ONE SIDE of things.

I didn't make this thread.

You've bought your own theory that my husband and I are the same person. I assure you, we're not. You made your own thread on the AH on this subject and I responded to both threads. I was asleep when both threads were created. I have created no threads on the subject, I have no plans to do so. I am answering what you and others say. I have no questions remaining on the subject of your obsession or fixation and inability to resolve this situation to your satisfaction. The subject for me is closed. Your insistence on making it something that it's not in order to extend its hate value isn't.

You post over here about how everyone should be quiet and not discuss it here when someone tells you it's in poor taste, and then you post simultaneously in the GB that I'm thin-skinned angry white trash. So forgive me if I find that to be funny and more revealing of your character. You insult the folks on the GB by saying they're all stupid and the AH would kick their ass. How everyone in the AH would turn on me if they knew the "real me." Well, lots of them know the real me. I've always been right here. You can lie or spin your crap as much as you like. Here, just as on the GB, some people have brains and can see through it. Some can't. And that's of interest too.

I don't bring up the subject in other threads, I don't troll you. I don't hammer the same thing constantly in an attempt to be right. It's fine if other people think I'm wrong. They're welcome to feel that way. I believe in free will.

This is my point of view. If you want to point...anywhere...to any comment I've made to anyone directly calling anybody a racial slur (other than as a joke when I'm mocking the concept of racism, as with cloudy), go ahead and find it. There are none. There will be none. Ever. Not out of fear that you'll find it, but out of the fact that I don't call people racial slurs. I'm not that stupid. You are. I've seen racial slurs from your posts that had to be explained to me because I have no idea what they meant. Your assertion that my discussion of racism with you is a passive aggressive attack is simply, ironically, a passive aggressive attack. I have no problem insulting you. I would do so to your face, and I have done so several times. The problem with your reasoning here is that you think I must change my posting style between here and the GB. I don't. You do. I believe people here are aware that I'm outspoken. Now you're saying I'm lying and manipulative because I'm not being ridden out of town on a rail. Fine. Again, it's not me. It's people having brains.

I'm continuing to point out how ridiculous the conversation is. I've made my opinion of you clear in terms that are not racial. I'm not "afraid" to insult you. I'm perfectly capable of insulting your methods, your reasoning and your targets.

You're not on ignore and I don't avoid the subject because it doesn't bother me to continue to engage on a subject I consider to be important to many. And it's not the subject you think it is. It's the subject of words versus action. It's not about racist words, it's about how people being divisive and trying to spread hate, succeed for certain reasons and fail for other reasons. Despite all the trolling and the hate, you're genuinely struggling with this. My ultimate response is one of pity.

In my opinion, I can repeat it, you are manipulative, racist, passive aggressive, completely unable to see anybody else's point of view, you are a proponent of violence and you'd love to see every slight to you answered with violence and a public flogging. You have enough rage on the subject to solve the energy crisis and I think you qualify as a perpetual motion machine. I think you're a miracle. If only that power and intellect could be turned toward something useful. Something productive. Instead you insist on provoking people, misinterpreting them, and despite all the feedback you get from people telling you that, you never learn.

I have pages and pages of your trolling, invective and hate in so many of my threads. I couldn't even wish my husband happy birthday without you flooding the thread with pages of ugly porn, castigating me for trying to pretend I had a husband, and insulting my life and kids. That's what I get from you day after day on any and every subject. I get it. You don't like me. But your reasons for not liking me are based on your interpretation of who you think I am, not who I am or what I've done. And your insults toward my autistic son are the most pathetic and unforgivable bit. My husband isn't the forgiving sort to begin with, and the hatred you've managed to spew in my direction and my son's direction isn't the sort of thing to be dismissed and forgiven, particularly as it continues at a constant wail. You are frankly, mentally ill. Why don't I ignore you? I did, for about a year. But you didn't stop talking about me, did you? Why do I engage you? Because you're intelligent, funny, sharp, and completely backward. You're an extraordinary person, and your capacity to shoot yourself in the foot and claim victory is unparalleled. You are the perfect illustration of how hatred and ignorance can't hurt me, and I don't have to ignore it, I can stare straight at it and then decide it's harmless.

I'm also offended but not surprised at your attempt to use some boardist bullshit like the GB is nothing but liars and scum. I have several intelligent and funny friends there. And I object to that. It's more of your divisive crap. It doesn't have any effect on me, but I have noticed it works on others. I'm just not one of them. Smear campaigns work, but they also backfire, and it's the backfires I'm enjoying. Smart people who can see through your bullshit are the ones I enjoy as company.

Anybody who wants to do a search of your posts with the word "Recidiva" in it can see it for themselves. All the threads you've made about me usually end up being tributes in my defense, so I don't mind. It is the ultimate assurance to me that all the hate in the form of words directed toward me is ultimately meaningless, and can do absolutely nothing. That's my point. Words don't physically hurt people. However, your insistence on "curb stomping" and assault do physically hurt people. It's that violence I oppose. Say whatever you want.

So don't worry, this isn't some great big battle and it doesn't take up much of my day. It does take up some of my interest in abnormal psychology and social dynamics.

If you want to appear to be some knight in shining armor, you do not qualify. If you want to continue to "expose" me for the deep evil I present, you're welcome to continue to do so, and I'm welcome to continue to think it's funny and pathetic.
 
Recidiva said:
I didn't make this thread.

You've bought your own theory that my husband and I are the same person. I assure you, we're not. You made your own thread on the AH on this subject and I responded to both threads. I was asleep when both threads were created. I have created no threads on the subject, I have no plans to do so. I am answering what you and others say. I have no questions remaining on the subject of your obsession or fixation and inability to resolve this situation to your satisfaction. The subject for me is closed. Your insistence on making it something that it's not in order to extend its hate value isn't.
The subject is closed, eh? So why are you still posting here whether I address you or not? I post in this thread in response to you, not you in response to me. You lie once again.

You post over here about how everyone should be quiet and not discuss it here when someone tells you it's in poor taste, and then you post simultaneously in the GB that I'm thin-skinned angry white trash. So forgive me if I find that to be funny and more revealing of your character. You insult the folks on the GB by saying they're all stupid and the AH would kick their ass. How everyone in the AH would turn on me if they knew the "real me."
I didn't say they WOULD turn on you. I said they DID. You got told right here that you weren't up front about things. I report the news, I don't make it. Usually.

Well, lots of them know the real me. I've always been right here. You can lie or spin your crap as much as you like. Here, just as on the GB, some people have brains and can see through it. Some can't. And that's of interest too.
Spin? Recidiva, you are the neutron star of spin. You've been trying to justify your calling me a NIGGER through your sockpuppet brother in law and so far only you and your "husband" seem to be the ones left trying to justify that any more.

Okay, I'm not spending any more time on the rest of your wrong headed garbage. What you just wrote after this was not only wrong and utterly lacking in facts, it's insane. You're a racist, you hurled a racial slur at me and now you aren't even adult enough to admit you did. The end.
 
LT..

All anyone has to do is a few simple searches and read your posts to see that Recidiva doesn't need to lie about you, nobody does. Everything she said was completely true. You constantly harass anyone who disagrees with you, make baseless accusations, nothing is off limits to you, spouses, children. Nothing.

You insult not only the poster you're "debating" but their children, in this instance calling them retarded. Advocate extreme violence (curbstomping) against those you disagree with. This is but one of many examples.
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=23893514&postcount=205

You also did manage to troll her and me even in the birthday thread she made for me. You spammed the thread with hideous porn. This is a favorite you use to harass whoever happens to be the target of your current crusade. post 4 starts your typical idiocy. Again, one example of many.
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=540621&highlight=birthday


Nobody has to lie about you LT. You provide all of the ammunition.
 
Recidiva said:
Well, yes, the actual title of the thread leaves little doubt as to the actual social answer.

To me, anyway.

But if I say "no" then people will argue with me and tell me I really mean "yes", which I don't. And since people telling me what I think doesn't actually change the way I think, well, there's your silly.
And yet that's precisely what you and your hubby have been doing to LT the whole thread.

And the threadjack was all you too, shmooze Jomar all you want - all I did was assert the existance of emotions, and suggest a way one could determine once and for all who is feeling what - your answer to that was a bunch of posts equating MRI's to Black holes, denying that they are used for this purpose - in spite of links to the contrary, and finally, disputing whether or not I could turn an MRI machine on and how long this particular expiriment would take.

Your credibility is shot here, and you're a bit slow to boot. You got nothing but ankle biting and hostile personal remarks, so spare the preidictable false affront - claim you're laughing why don't you - except that you must laugh like hyena, because you haven't demonstrated that you have anything remotely resembling a sense of humo, or anything but a gross overestimation of the validity of your own opinions - unshakable, even when empirically demonstrated to be laughably in rank error.

Anyway, I just remembered something about arguing with pigs.
 
xssve said:
And yet that's precisely what you and your hubby have been doing to LT the whole thread.

And the threadjack was all you too, shmooze Jomar all you want - all I did was assert the existance of emotions, and suggest a way one could determine once and for all who is feeling what - your answer to that was a bunch of posts equating MRI's to Black holes, denying that they are used for this purpose - in spite of links to the contrary, and finally, disputing whether or not I could turn an MRI machine on and how long this particular expiriment would take.

Your credibility is shot here, and you're a bit slow to boot. You got nothing but ankle biting and hostile personal remarks, so spare the preidictable false affront - claim you're laughing why don't you - except that you must laugh like hyena, because you haven't demonstrated that you have anything remotely resembling a sense of humo, or anything but a gross overestimation of the validity of your own opinions - unshakable, even when empirically demonstrated to be laughably in rank error.

Anyway, I just remembered something about arguing with pigs.

Priceless. After pages and pages of your posting with her .... simply priceless.

Do you like your slop before or after you eat your crow?

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xssve said:
And yet that's precisely what you and your hubby have been doing to LT the whole thread.

And the threadjack was all you too, shmooze Jomar all you want - all I did was assert the existance of emotions, and suggest a way one could determine once and for all who is feeling what - your answer to that was a bunch of posts equating MRI's to Black holes, denying that they are used for this purpose - in spite of links to the contrary, and finally, disputing whether or not I could turn an MRI machine on and how long this particular expiriment would take.

Your credibility is shot here, and you're a bit slow to boot. You got nothing but ankle biting and hostile personal remarks, so spare the preidictable false affront - claim you're laughing why don't you - except that you must laugh like hyena, because you haven't demonstrated that you have anything remotely resembling a sense of humo, or anything but a gross overestimation of the validity of your own opinions - unshakable, even when empirically demonstrated to be laughably in rank error.

Anyway, I just remembered something about arguing with pigs.

I wasn't equating MRI's to black holes.

I was mocking your understanding of science. (And Stargate's understanding of science.)

And now your understanding of my mocking of your understanding of science.

And so it goes.
 
Pookie said:
Priceless. After pages and pages of your posting with her .... simply priceless.

Do you like your slop before or after you eat your crow?

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I talk a lot!

Maybe I need duodenoscopy.

We're discussing me going with my gut reaction, anyway. I'm sure they're related.
 
Recidiva said:
I talk a lot!

Maybe I need duodenoscopy.

We're discussing me going with my gut reaction, anyway. I'm sure they're related.

I just loved the way he said you were "slow" ... and then just remembered something about arguing with pigs. It's too cute. Makes you just want to pinch his little muddy cheeks, doesn't it? *nods*
 
Pookie said:
Priceless. After pages and pages of your posting with her .... simply priceless.

Do you like your slop before or after you eat your crow?

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LovingTongue 	38
xssve 		35

I'll admit, I've gotten nothing out it, it was truely a waste of time and bandwidth, - the last exchange really went downhill fast, and my last post is simply describing this.

It really irritated me to see her sucking up to Jomar when she and Ulaven spent how many posts trying to counter my argument by maintaining that I "don't even know how to turn an MRI machine on" - like that matters - describes her marriage, her job, god know what else, in god knows how man y posts, as if anybody cares or it means anything.

Now she tries to pretend I'm being unreasonable and delusional - Yeah Recidiva, you did call it science fiction and compared it to Black holes, although you probobly meant wormholes, and no I don't want to argue about because that has nothing whatosoer to do with this discussion any more than how many gallsotnes you've looked at.

Yeah, I'm sure the Oxford Dons will all be looking for new jobs now that some med tech paper shuffler has decreed their lifes work to be non-existent.

You're a fucking joke - I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, bt it's pretty clear you don't really give a fuck about anything but being an irritating pain in the ass, I won't fall for it anymore, and credit you with being able to follow a simple arugument, but I will continue to call you on your bullshit.

An you Pookie, what's your stake in this? You think if you get enough bush league bitches naggin on me it'll mean anything more than what it is?

You two are fucking amateurs.

I'm not clueless in what an MRI can accomplish, nor am I ignorant about genetics.

I'm not the one who made a ridiculous assertion that has nothing to do with the science or the scientific tools you're attempting to mangle.

Oh, of course, you are simply incapable talking about anything in any kind of specific sense, or backing it up - silly me for not considering your vauge claims, personal insults and generalizations for definitive arguments - once again you have said:

Exactly

Nothing

Please tell us how I'm mangling it, be specific, tear me up, show me the data.

Put up or shut up - just putting out isn't gonna work here.
 
Pookie said:
I just loved the way he said you were "slow" ... and then just remembered something about arguing with pigs. It's too cute. Makes you just want to pinch his little muddy cheeks, doesn't it? *nods*

They're adorable when condescending from a depth.
 
xssve said:
I'll admit, I've gotten nothing out it, it was truely a waste of time and bandwidth, - the last exchange really went downhill fast, and my last post is simply describing this.

It really irritated me to see her sucking up to Jomar when she and Ulaven spent how many posts trying to counter my argument by maintaining that I "don't even know how to turn an MRI machine on" - like that matters - describes her marriage, her job, god know what else, in god knows how man y posts, as if anybody cares or it means anything.

Now she tries to pretend I'm being unreasonable and delusional - Yeah Recidiva, you did call it science fiction and compared it to Black holes, although you probobly meant wormholes, and no I don't want to argue about because that has nothing whatosoer to do with this discussion any more than how many gallsotnes you've looked at.

Yeah, I'm sure the Oxford Dons will all be looking for new jobs now that some med tech paper shuffler has decreed their lifes work to be non-existent.

You're a fucking joke - I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, bt it's pretty clear you don't really give a fuck about anything but being an irritating pain in the ass, I won't fall for it anymore, and credit you with being able to follow a simple arugument, but I will continue to call you on your bullshit.

An you Pookie, what's your stake in this? You think if you get enough bush league bitches naggin on me it'll mean anything more than what it is?

You two are fucking amateurs.



Oh, of course, you are simply incapable talking about anything in any kind of specific sense, or backing it up - silly me for not considering your vauge claims, personal insults and generalizations for definitive arguments - once again you have said:

Exactly

Nothing

Please tell us how I'm mangling it, be specific, tear me up, show me the data.

Put up or shut up - just putting out isn't gonna work here.

*cheek pinch*
 
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