Are you ever "justified" in using a racial slur?

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Certain alleles are expressing certain hormones resulting in somatic responses agonistic or hedonic?

Are you serious?

You sure you don't want to work something in there with the word "phaser" or "black hole"?

MRI machine? Good lord, man, do you write for "Stargate"?

What a load of crap.

Not to mention that LT's feelings aren't hurt. He's fucking ecstatic when someone calls him by a racial slur, in his mind thats a green light for him to release all of his own pent up racist bullshit and feel justified in doing so.

 

[Recidiva]

In short, Recidivas entire arguemtn is based on the notion that she somehow knows what it's like to be a Black male, and to hear that word coming froma dizzy white bitch - objectively.

She doesn't, she can't, and I don't know either, which is why I'm simply choosing to take his at his word, rather than continue to grind away at it and cause him further distress.

It's not that big a fucking deal, has nothing to do with politics, it's simply that I refuse to participate in non-consensual sadism for personal reasons.

In short you truly know nothing about me, nothing about LT, and you're just extraordinarily uptight and spinning bullshit by the mile.

 

[xssve]

Not to mention that LT's feelings aren't hurt. He's fucking ecstatic when someone calls him by a racial slur, in his mind thats a green light for him to release all of his own pent up racist bullshit and feel justified in doing so.

So you also have this unique ability to feel the emotions of others?

 

[xssve]

In short you truly know nothing about me, nothing about LT, and you're just extraordinarily uptight and spinning bullshit by the mile.

Gee, I musta struck a nerve, that's very hostile - how do you know that I don't also possess this very handy trait of being able to inerringly asses the emotional states of others?

If it works for you then it works for me, no?

 

[xssve]

Maybe you're just special.

 

[xssve]

Certain alleles are expressing certain hormones resulting in somatic responses agonistic or hedonic?

Are you serious?

You sure you don't want to work something in there with the word "phaser" or "black hole"?

MRI machine? Good lord, man, do you write for "Stargate"?

What a load of crap.

So you don't actually know anything about modern technology? That's very sad, pathetic really, this is very exiting stuff.

 

[Recidiva]

Gee, I musta struck a nerve, that's very hostile - how do you know that I don't also possess this very handy trait of being able to inerringly asses the emotional states of others?

If it works for you then it works for me, no?

No, that's just my opinion. It's not a nerve struck, it's a funny bone.

 

[Recidiva]

So you don't actually know anything about modern technology? That's very sad, pathetic really, this is very exiting stuff.

It's because I do know something about modern technology that I'm laughing my little self silly.

But carry on.

 

[xssve]

No, that's just my opinion. It's not a nerve struck, it's a funny bone.

Nice try.

 

[xssve]

It's because I do know something about modern technology that I'm laughing my little self silly.

But carry on.

But you don't know the difference between an MRI machine and a Black Hole...

 

[Recidiva]

Nice try.

It's an excellent try. Ulaven's my husband and he and I have two years of posting experience with LT on the General Board. I'm also well versed in science fiction and medicine and I had an MRI a few weeks ago.

Your qualifications?

 

[Recidiva]

But you don't know the difference between an MRI machine and a Black Hole...

Great, so tell my how an MRI would reveal anything about the emotional state of a person.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

So you don't actually know anything about modern technology? That's very sad, pathetic really, this is very exiting stuff.

I'm sure it's all very exiting.... Possibly even exciting when read in sci-fi paperbacks.

Could you explain exactly what use an MRI machine would be? Now an EEG I could understand in possibly determining the emotional state of a person, but an MRI?

Please, do enlighten the rest of the class.

 

[xssve]

You've got google don't you?

 

[Recidiva]

Oh, and alleles. Explain that too. Considering it's a genetic term. Kthx.

 

[Recidiva]

You've got google don't you?

Apparently not the access to the part of Google or the brain that makes any of that tripe you just tossed out make sense.

But do try.

 

[xssve]

You can lead a horse to water...

 

[xssve]

Oh, and alleles. Explain that too. Considering it's a genetic term. Kthx.

What do genes do?

 

[Recidiva]

What do genes do?

Apparently make people completely oversimplify what they are capable of doing.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

You've got google don't you?

Oh I don't need Google for this topic.

To get a somewhat accurate picture of the possible emotional state of a person you need much more than just an MRI.

You need a Functional MRI scan, a PET scan and an EEG. You have to first establish a baseline test and then trigger specific emotions for comparison. Several hours with an MRI alone are going to get you some pretty good pictures of the brain, thats about it. If you can even figure out how to turn the thing on.

 

[xssve]

No, that's not it. Well have to add genetics to the list of things you are completely clueless about.

 

[Recidiva]

No, that's not it. Well have to add genetics to the list of things you are completely clueless about.

I'm not clueless in what an MRI can accomplish, nor am I ignorant about genetics.

I'm not the one who made a ridiculous assertion that has nothing to do with the science or the scientific tools you're attempting to mangle.

 

[xssve]

Here, try this:

In recent years, two developments have had a great impact on functional imaging studies of emotion: event-related fMRI and subject monitoring. Event-related fMRI has enabled quantification of trial-by-trial relationship of a stimulus (or response) to evoked regional brain activity, in contrast to blocked fMRI or PET studies. In the context of emotion studies, this has overcome many confounds related to habituation and fluctuating attention and arousal. Subject monitoring during scanning can now be safely achieved at temporal resolutions high enough for combined EEG/fMRI studies, and monitoring changes in autonomic activity have already enabled both on-line indexing of emotional processing and dissociation of arousal-related activity from cognitive aspects of emotional processing. The range of analytical methods available for processing functional imaging data should provide for a more detailed definition of neurophysiological mechanisms underlying emotion; for example, effective connectivity analysis to test for modulatory influences on region-to-region interactions. Nevertheless, interventional studies and the use of patient models provide perhaps the most powerful means of exploring theoretical issues, and the field of functional neuropharmacology remains rather undeveloped with respect to fMRI studies of emotion. MRI advances must be set within the context of other modalities of magnetic resonance imaging. A comprehensive understanding of the neurology of emotion must include detailed structural and neurochemical descriptions. These may be achievable with development and implementation of techniques such as diffusion tensor imaging of axonal tracts, combined with neurochemical information from chemical shift imaging or spectroscopy. These methods, combined with functional data obtained from synchronous fMRI and EEG, remain an obtainable goal for the study of healthy emotional processing and emotional disorders.

Emotion and its disorders

You see when I evoked that emotional response from you, it temporarily distracted you from the context of the remarks.

Do try to keep up, maybe watch a little less Stargate and pay more attention to the real world, I mean, I like SF as much as anybody, but really...

 

[xssve]

I'm not clueless in what an MRI can accomplish, nor am I ignorant about genetics.

I'm not the one who made a ridiculous assertion that has nothing to do with the science or the scientific tools you're attempting to mangle.

Answer the question then, it isn't a difficult one, it's a two word answer.

 

[Recidiva]

Answer the question then, it isn't a difficult one, it's a two word answer.

Yes, you're attempting to behave like Socrates. That only works if I consider myself one of your students and I want access to your wisdom. I don't.

I'm simply pointing out a huge gap between your understanding of science, and its actual medical practical applications.

My opinion of your methods and assertations remains. So you'll have to struggle with an answer that has a few more words than just two.