2024 First Presidential Debate Thread: June 27th

[TastySuckToy]

Leftist media looks and sounds like it's in full blown panic mode, and talking serious Biden replacement strategies.

The Conservative side is absolutely grinning ear to ear, thanking CNN and hoping Biden stays the democrat choice.

Next few days of analysis and polling is gonna be very entertaining.

 

[Lazaran]

I'll still stick with the old guy over the psychopath liar.

Yes Joe is old. No doubt. He mumbled. Absolutely. But if you actually listened most of what he said was spot on.

Trump spoke clearly. He projected. He enunciated. He made almost zero sense. He sounded freaking insane at times. He lied incessantly.

By appearance Trump "looked" great. Until he opened his mouth.

Apparently President Biden had a cold, which explains the voice and some of the uneven performance.

That said, the corrupt orange traitor did nothing but lie throughout the debate. There was no need for that orange POS to prep for the debate because it was all the greatest hits (lies) from a MAGAt rally. Easy peasy.

On substance and policy, President Biden crushed the corrupt orange traitor, but due to his voice and his stutter (which may have been exacerbated by his cold) I feel many of the points President Biden scored will be lost on most people (but not the fact checkers).

One can reasonably ask if the President having a cold, and it affecting his performance to a noticeable degree, is disqualifying at his age. It’s a fair point. It will take President Biden appearing in public after he has recovered from his cold, and delivering a more even performance in a stronger voice to allay the doubts and worries of many people.

If President Biden doesn’t rally quickly and make a stronger public appearance in short order, then maybe it IS time to talk about replacing him, with President Biden himself taking the lead in the process of selecting a successor. (I would be fine with Kamala Harris taking the lead in that eventuality.)

Overall, not a good night for President Biden, but there will be opportunities in the coming days / weeks for redemption. If President Biden can’t or isn’t able to take advantage of those upcoming opportunities, then it’s time to let someone who can.

 

[ShandyLeer]

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Aren’t most voters entitled to expect a candidate for President to be able to expose these lies of Trumps ?

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

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I agree with you 100%. He has accomplished a tremendous amount.
Now, someone has to convince him to step aside, and the Dems have to figure out how to replace him with a strong candidate, preferably someone who had not been chasing the position for years. Someone who doesn't really want the job but agrees to do it to bring the party together because it is so critical to win this election, and Biden does not look like he can do it.

The names that come to my mind:
Michelle Obama
Sherrod Brown

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Lazlighting

 

[ShandyLeer]

This wasn't a mental competence display issue - although if it is honestly Trump lost. He sounded, frankly, unhinged. Yes he said his insanity very clearly and forcefully but what he said was for the most part insanity.

Biden actually has accomplished quite a bit. Quite a bit more than Trump did.

You’re down the wormhole here.

If Biden won can you explain why his party, not Trumps, is shitting bricks as we speak ?

 

[adrina]

You’re down the wormhole here.

If Biden won can you explain why his party, not Trumps, is shitting bricks as we speak ?

I didn't say Biden won the debate. The reality is that he came off as an old man. Trump came off as a pathological liar with mental issues.

 

[carlsnap12]

I tried to tell yall Biden isn't gonna be the nominee, lol.

 

[adrina]

Biden having a cold explains a bit. That's some real shitty timing.

 

[Treeview]

Trump came off as a pathological liar with mental issues.

Just keep repeating the mantra: If his lips are moving he is lying.

 

[Treeview]

Trump came off as a pathological liar with mental issues.

Just keep repeating the mantra: If his lips are moving he is lying.

 

[TastySuckToy]

I tried to tell yall Biden isn't gonna be the nominee, lol.

Let's cross our fingers and hope the leftists keep Biden on the ballot.

 

[adrina]

LOL good time for a double post.

 

[carlsnap12]

Biden having a cold explains a bit. That's some real shitty timing.

People won't view you as a serious person with comments like this.

 

[TastySuckToy]

People won't view you as a serious person with comments like this.

Shhh! We need people like adrina to keep Biden as the alternative to Trump. I'd put adrina in charge of keeping Biden as the democrat choice without hesistation. Frankly, I'd demand someone like her keep pushing the Biden bid.

 

[ShandyLeer]

I didn't say Biden won the debate. The reality is that he came off as an old man. Trump came off as a pathological liar with mental issues.

20 minutes ago you said Trump lost, so let’s not bullshit here.

The reality is that to people who aren’t dug in like you Biden came across not as “old” but as malfunctioning. The further reality is that Trumps excesses and stupidity are priced in, but the Dems fielding a rival who can’t hold on to his train of thought is not.

It’s ’a cold’ now is it ??

 

[adrina]

20 minutes ago you said Trump lost, so let’s not bullshit here.

The reality is that to people who aren’t dug in like you Biden came across not as “old” but as malfunctioning. The further reality is that Trumps excesses and stupidity are priced in, but the Dems fielding a rival who can’t hold on to his train of thought

It’s ’a cold’ now is it ??

I specifically said that if we are talking mental issues, then yes Trump lost. If you listened to what Trump said and call it sane then you are the one with serious issues.

Yes Joe is old and yes the story right now is that he has a cold.

 

[adrina]

HRC won the debates in 2016.

 

[Lazaran]

People won't view you as a serious person with comments like this.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4744889-joe-biden-has-a-cold-debate/mlite/?nxs-test=mlite

Comments based on official reports from President Biden’s campaign are pretty solid.

 

[ShandyLeer]

I specifically said that if we are talking mental issues, then yes Trump lost. If you listened to what Trump said and call it sane then you are the one with serious issues.

Yes Joe is old and yes the story right now is that he has a cold.

The story right now - except in your house - is that his performance has caused panic in his party. I’m not making it up - traditional “liberal” media are openly saying it. If you don’t want to confront it head on that’s up to you.

 

[adrina]

The story right now - except in your house - is that his performance has caused panic in his party. I’m not making it up - traditional “liberal” media are openly saying it. If you don’t want to confront it head on that’s up to you.

Sorry I'm not the drama llama y'all are. Have a good time running around like a chicken with your head cut off.

 

[AlexBailey]

Trump is lying constantly but Grandpa Joe is not presenting well.

 

[ShandyLeer]

Sorry I'm not the drama llama y'all are. Have a good time running around like a chicken with your head cut off.

The party you need to see win this election is doing the panicking, not me.

Wonder why ?

 

[AlexBailey]

Fuckin’ lying ass Trump just said Biden wants to raise “everyone’s taxes by four times”.

Chew that bullshit for a minute and try to say Trump isn’t lying.

 

[SimonDoom]

Trump came off as a pathological liar with mental issues.

I wouldn't quite agree with that. I'd say he came across as a pathological liar to an informed and unbiased person, but that doesn't describe the majority of those watching. The crucial point isn't whether a Presidential candidate in a debate lies but whether their opponent is able to expose them as liars, and I would say Biden did a piss-poor job of that. Biden himself has issues with the truth so he's not the best opponent to call Trump a liar.

I won't vote for Trump but I thought he was the clear winner of this debate. He won within the first five minutes, and the rest was just playing out the time.