2024 First Presidential Debate Thread: June 27th

[KeithD]

Well, I guess it can be said that trump didn’t win, but Biden lost.

Yep. Biden justified the fears on his age-related condition despite being a caring, result-producing experienced administrator with a competent staff around him and Trump confirmed that he is a self-obsessed wall-to-wall liar, con man, felon, rapist, and coup plotter whose White House staff is now ditching as a danger to the nation.

Both lost the debate. But the debate didn't change what the rational choice is.

 

[TastySuckToy]

The best part of the entire debate is that the leftist deomcrats keep screaming Trump is deranged, dangerous, a threat to democracy, etc, etc.

And if they actually believed that, here is their top choice candidate to fight him.

Perhaps they's have better luck if they didn't actually pick a candidate that does accurately represent the mental, uh, capacity of their voting block.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

The best part of the entire debate is that the leftist deomcrats keep screaming Trump is deranged, dangerous, a threat to democracy, etc, etc.

And if they actually believed that, here is their top choice candidate to fight him.

Perhaps they's have better luck if they didn't actually pick a candidate that does accurately represent the mental, uh, capacity of their voting block.

How embarrassing for Trump.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The best part of the entire debate is that the leftist deomcrats keep screaming Trump is deranged, dangerous, a threat to democracy, etc, etc.

And if they actually believed that, here is their top choice candidate to fight him.

Perhaps they's have better luck if they didn't actually pick a candidate that does accurately represent the mental, uh, capacity of their voting block.

The right is really afraid of Joe Biden

 

[TastySuckToy]

How embarrassing for Trump.

Yup, I'm sure Trump is feeling very embarassed right now.

 

[TastySuckToy]

The right is really afraid of Joe Biden

Of course, of course, Biden is sharp as a tack, right?

 

[MajorRewrite]

Donald Trump delivered 90 minutes of lies on Thursday, spreading crazy conspiracy theories about babies being aborted after birth, lies about his felony conviction, and brazen falsehoods about drug costs, taxes, and Social Security.​

A stream of lies: 5 of Trump’s biggest lies in the presidential debate

The Conspiracy Nut Clown Show Party candidate satisfied his lunatic supporters by spewing nonsense throughout the debate.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Of course, of course, Biden is sharp as a tack, right?

Yeah he is. President Biden was hoarse last night, but Donald Trump lied non-stop. Trump sounded manic and crazy.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Yup, I'm sure Trump is feeling very embarassed right now.

He should. This is the guy who crushed him in the 2020 election, and Trump can’t pull away from a dead heat in the polls with?
Trump majorly stepped on his dick last night.

 

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[RoryN]

Thanks again for starting the thread and encouraging my participation.

You're welcome! Thanks again for acknowledging you wouldn't have an audience if it weren't for me.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

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LOL! Yup Fox News is really propping Biden up.

 

[adrina]

Right. But this performance last night means they'll have a "B..b..but..." reference point that they shouldn't have had. They got a gift the Dems had no reason or excuse to give them.

For once they'll have real footage instead of a deep fake. Heh.

They'll still whine either way.

 

[butters]

i was horrified last night at how pale and corpse-like President Biden appeared, leaving me thinking he must have spent the last week at Camp David really sick in bed... and then i watched this morning and noticed various moments when the lights weren't so terribly bright on him and he looked pink and just not as tanned as usual.

for most of the debate, the lights made felon trump look a normal shade instead of orange, and President Biden white as a sheet with black eyes.

i'm not saying that was a deliberate 'thing', but it certainly made felon trump look less like a fat satsuma than normal and made President Biden appear deathly sick... and that, coupled with his stricken look at all the lies pouring from the obscene one's lips, worked with his quiet, hoarse voice to make him appear way too frail to be considered a presidential candidate.

if i'd not noticed the lighting changes this morning, i would still be labouring under that visual impression of President Biden simply being too ill and old to do the job.

 

[KeithD]

Define "better choice". A shit sandwich on white or wheat is still a shit sandwich. Non of the above or any other candidate is an option, check the ballot for the latter option. People saying there is only two optiins is why the uniparty runs people like this. We are fucked either way, but deep down you must know that.

Bullshit. Biden has a great record of accomplishment for the greater citizenry in what he has done in office already.

Trump is being dumped on by nearly everyone who ever worked for the congenital liar, con man, failed businessman, convicted and multiply indicted felon, rapist, and attempted coupist.

There most definitely is a better choice here.

 

[dmallord]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806536563947352102

Now play the part where the same fact-checker inhaled deeply and blew through more than thirty lies that Trump told.

Please play the tape for both sides of the commentary.

Otherwise, you game the news and are biased and lie like Trump does.

 

[TomTeacher19]

Biden didn't look good, but honestly there is very little about being president that debate skills really are important for. Trump looked better except he still constantly lied and there is a pretty good chunk of the job of president where being a pathological liar is very bad.

 

[coati]

Right. But this performance last night means they'll have a "B..b..but..." reference point that they shouldn't have had. They got a gift the Dems had no reason or excuse to give them.

We have a Party Convention to deal with situations like this. Leading candidates sometimes have a major health or legal crisis. In those situations, the Democrats should not do what the Republicans are doing right now, which is to double down on a candidate that's experiencing such a crisis.

Let's avoid doubling down and start examining the leading candidates. We face so many challenges in the world. Let's get a candidate who has the vigor to take on these challenges and also boost down-ballot candidates.

Take heart, Democrats! Don't do what the Republicans are doing.

 

[Bray123]

The best part of the entire debate is that the leftist deomcrats keep screaming Trump is deranged, dangerous, a threat to democracy, etc, etc.

And if they actually believed that, here is their top choice candidate to fight him.

Perhaps they's have better luck if they didn't actually pick a candidate that does accurately represent the mental, uh, capacity of their voting block.

What has President Biden got to do with how deranged, dangerous and a threat to democracy Schitzinpants is?

 

[TastySuckToy]

Yeah he is.

I was going to argue this point, because there's no way anyone would laughably claim Biden is 'sharp as a tack', especially after last night's performance.

But I took a step back, and realized that yes, from the perspective of a leftist/democrat such as yourself, Biden is sharp as a tack. Arguably Biden may appear to be an intellectual giant in your eyes.

So I stand corrected. When you claim Biden is 'sharp as a tack', you actually honestly believe it.

 

[dmallord]

Lili Loofbourow, a reporter, had this to say in her article:

"Having faulted Pelosi for foolishly rejecting his prescient offer of military aid to deal with the rioters (there is, of course, no record of any such offer), he attacked Joe Biden for destroying their lives:

“What they’ve done to some people that are so innocent, you ought to be ashamed of yourself, what you have done, how you’ve destroyed the lives of so many people.” At another point, he suggested that the rioters were “ushered in by the police.”

"It wouldn’t be easy to pithily point out, in the minute allotted, how those three accounts don’t square. (Do you start with the Pelosi? The troops offer?) And it wouldn’t matter if you did; Trump would have already moved on, since he doesn’t much care about what he says and knows it’s not true.

"Effectively countering that technique probably requires some combination of quick thinking, verbal dexterity, brilliant stagecraft and (to avoid accusations of pedantry) humor. Plus total mastery of your own narrative — and an ability to pivot back to it quickly, so the public hear (sic) whatever it is you want to actually say. It’s not a fair ask, but Biden more or less managed it in 2020."

She wrote a fair assessment.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I was going to argue this point, because there's no way anyone would laughably claim Biden is 'sharp as a tack', especially after last night's performance.

But I took a step back, and realized that yes, from the perspective of a leftist/democrat such as yourself, Biden is sharp as a tack. Arguably Biden may appear to be an intellectual giant in your eyes.

So I stand corrected. When you claim Biden is 'sharp as a tack', you actually honestly believe it.

President Biden is competent and honest and gets things done. Donald Trump is an incompetent crook. The fact the you still support Trump after last night’s debacle says a lot about your character.

 

[dkovic77]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806536563947352102

Just like your people are so quick to point out numbers..if there were many, many lies for one side… the Convict in chief had…many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many lies.

Joe’s were mostly errors in numbers, where as “good people on both sides” had the lionshare.

(this is the part where he talked about your…. Cousins?)

 

[TastySuckToy]

President Biden is competent and honest and gets things done. Donald Trump is an incompetent crook. The fact the you still support Trump after last night’s debacle says a lot about your character.

I have no doubt whatsoever you actually believe that.

 

[jomar]

Biden is speaking at a rally in Raleigh, NC right now and sounds strong and vigorous and has his voice back. Where was this Joe last night? A real 180.