No, the Democrats did not lose by going too far left.

[UltraChad]

Not in any way that will raise their real income. Which has been declining since 1980, and not because of anything the Democrats did.

IDK letting 20+ million illegals in is pretty far from "not anything".

 

[ChloeTzang]

Not in any way that will raise their real income. Which has been declining since 1980, and not because of anything the Democrats did.

Throw out 50,000,000 illegals and watch that real pay increase. Just stopping illegals coming in last go round had a positive effect.

 

[UltraChad]

LOL. They're already there....This is a public school teacher in Bellevue, Washington.

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Pretty standard democrat sentiment. Most who have been paying attention/not living in denial about it saw this 10+ years ago. Hell my old man called this back in 88' when participation trophies became a thing in our school...he pulled us out of the public brain washing centers like 2 weeks later and put us in a tech school. Thank god and my fathers attention to detail .....I barely escaped the woke mind virus.

 

[UltraChad]

Throw out 50,000,000 illegals and watch that real pay increase. Just stopping illegals coming in last go round had a positive effect.

Not to mention the cost of living will drop.

Can you imagine how tore up boomer real-estate portfolios would be if the market were suddenly flooded with tens of millions of units?? It would literally nuke a massive chunk of their bullshit artificially created wealth right out of existence. Normal people could afford homes again.....labor could demand better wages...it would be a DISASTER for Democrats.

 

[Rightguide]

This is what the Democrats created:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/trump-record-2024-total-votes.jpg

 

[Holy_Seduction]

Trump now represents the American working class and middle class and speaks for them. There won't be a revolution AGAINST him. He's leading it.

You know I’m a Marxist, I take it? I don’t hide it — here or elsewhere. Oddly enough, people seem to respect that, however much they otherwise may ridicule my perspective.

I believe I’ll stick with our own, revolutionary program, and with our own representation since, after all, only the proletarian class can represent the proletarian class.

Have a good one!

 

[UltraChad]

This is what the Democrats created:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/trump-record-2024-total-votes.jpg

And even the ones they won almost all of them lost pretty substantial point leads and a few that should have been solid blue came down to pretty thin margins. I have a feeling if there was a national voter ID law and paper ballots .....there MIGHT be 3 blue states on that map.

 

[Politruk]

Deporting immigrants is not going to raise Americans' incomes.

 

[Rightguide]

Deporting immigrants is not going to raise Americans' incomes.

It will enforce our laws and enhance our national security. It will also sweep out a bunch of people who really hate us and who are only here to harm or exploit us.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Those who are telling us that Trumps election is the end of the world are the same people that told us that ole Joe is "sharp as a tack" and that sticking a person that never received a single vote at the top of their ticket was "the democratic way."

You dick licks have ZERO credibility.

 

[Rightguide]

And even the ones they won almost all of them lost pretty substantial point leads and a few that should have been solid blue came down to pretty thin margins. I have a feeling if there was a national voter ID law and paper ballots .....there MIGHT be 3 blue states on that map.

Such as Illinois which is almost all red now. Tampon Tim even lost his home county and Kamala failed to outproduce Joe Biden in any county.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/illinois-wiki-2024_16x9-1600x900.png

 

[UltraChad]

Deporting immigrants is not going to raise Americans' incomes.

So you don't think basic economic principles like supply and demand aren't real??

 

[Politruk]

Let's look at some myths and facts about immigration:

"Immigrants take jobs and opportunities away from Americans"[edit]​

This point, while right in the main, a bit disingenuously implies that Indians and Chinese people are actually immigrating still to the US. Rather, they are coming on H1-B visas, which prohibit them from entrepreneurship and which effectively prohibit them from being risk takers in their jobs (e.g. hiring more workers as a manager) for fear of their own job loss and deportation since they can only work for their sponsoring employer.

• The largest wave of immigration to the U.S. since the early 1900s coincided with the lowest national unemployment rate and fastest economic growth; however, there was no welfare state at that time and only minimal regulation of the economy. Immigrant entrepreneurs create jobs for U.S. and foreign workers, and foreign-born students fill seats in graduate programs in U.S. universities.[16]
  • In Silicon Valley by 2003, companies founded by Chinese and Indian immigrants generated more than $19.5 billion in sales and nearly 73,000 jobs.[17]
  • By 2012, nearly 15 percent of start-ups were founded by entrepreneurs native to India.[18]
• Illegal immigrants, as well as legal immigrants with little job skills or language skills, often take the work seen by most Americans as "beneath them". Janitorial services, crop pickers, and garbage collectors need workers, and they do not find them from high-school-educated, English-speaking citizens. As a demonstration of this fact, in Georgia, a 2011 crackdown on illegal immigrants caused many to be deported and more to flee the state. This caused a shortage of labor on the state's farms, indicating that illegal immigrants in that state do not compete very much with Americans for jobs.[19]
• The types of jobs that decrease or increase for citizens depends on the skillset required. Although construction and hospitality jobs declined (2 and 1 percent respectively), manufacturing jobs increased by 3 percent for US citizens, as manufacturing does not rely as heavily on undocumented labor. Additionally, jobs relying on communication skills (requiring proficiency in English) increase in places with more immigrants.[20]
• Harvard economics professor George Borjas has published multiple studies arguing that high levels of immigration reduce low-skill job opportunities for citizens. In one 2017 study, he claimed that the 1980 influx of Cuban migrants lowered wages of citizens who lacked high school diplomas by as much as 30 percent. However, scruntiny of the Borjas research found severe problems with the demographic sampling Borjas used, for instance excluding women and high school graduates and oversampling black workers.[21]

 

[Rightguide]

So you don't think basic economic principles like supply and demand aren't real??

He probably has no idea what that is.

 

[Politruk]

It will enforce our laws and enhance our national security. It will also sweep out a bunch of people who really hate us and who are only here to harm or exploit us.

Those are all lies. Immigrants are no threat to national security. They don't want to harm this country, they want to live here.

 

[Politruk]

So you don't think basic economic principles like supply and demand aren't real??

See post #63.

And don't use no more double negatives.

 

[UltraChad]

Such as Illinois which is almost all red now. Tampon Tim even lost his home county and Kamala failed to outproduce Joe Biden in any county.

The more you look at the 2024 election the worse it gets for Democrats. I hope they continue to shit on white women and black men for electing Trump. Just crank those "progressive" firehoses of hate and shame all the way up!!!

 

[Rebel5soul]

Those are all lies. Immigrants are no threat to national security. They don't want to harm this country, they want to live here.

You are full of shit.

 

[UltraChad]

Those are all lies. Immigrants are no threat to national security. They don't want to harm this country, they want to live here.

ILLEGAL immigrants....there is a difference.

Get on topic.

Let's look at some myths and facts about immigration:

Oh look globocommiewiki.com thinks open borders is all rainbow unicorn dick juice and good times!! Trust CommiWiki because your eyes are lying to you and the cost of living isn't real!!! LOL

See post #63.

And don't use no more double negatives.

So you reject basic economics because commiewiki told you so.....I expected about as much from a leftist.

 

[UltraChad]

You are full of shit.

But the supreme comrades at hammer&sickleWiki told him so....

See, he was right up in the front row of class every day becoming EDUCATED.

His education.
https://i.imgflip.com/8b0syf.jpg

 

[Yarglenurp]

Deporting immigrants is not going to raise Americans' incomes.

Yeah, but you’re looking at it the wrong way. Mass deportation will reduce the number of conservative voters by a large margin.

Long-term, most immigrants in this country will vote republican because they are social conservatives. The big mistake the pro-immigrant crowd makes is that immigrants will be grateful for being allowed in… they won’t be, because gratitude requires them to actually know the people who helped them.

These religious wackjobs would rather stay poor and die early than consider the possibility of having a daughter marry outside their religion or turn gay. This is as true for the Catholics of Venezuela or the Muslims of Somalia. They also would never ally with existing working class because they’d rather be fleeced on a daily basis by their own people than work in honest trade with outsiders.

Look at Hamtramck Michigan. They come to the US, have a chance for a true fresh start free from the ignorance violence of their old countries… and they create a mini-Pakistan filled with kids who are openly misogynistic, racist, and, hilariously enough, xenophobic.

 

[Politruk]

ILLEGAL immigrants....there is a difference.

Not for these purposes there isn't -- they mean America no more harm than the legal ones, and are no more of a security risk, and no more of a crime problem.

Oh look globocommiewiki.com

RationalWiki is not that, you idiot.

 

[Rightguide]

The more you look at the 2024 election the worse it gets for Democrats. I hope they continue to shit on white women and black men for electing Trump. Just crank those "progressive" firehoses of hate and shame all the way up!!!

Yes, because it will all come home to roost in 2028.

 

[UltraChad]

Not for these purposes there isn't -- they mean America no more harm than the legal ones, and are no more of a security risk, and no more of a crime problem.

RationalWiki is not that, you idiot.

Yes there is. Your impression of their intentions doesn't line up with the actual results or their behavior.

So....reality>your fantasy.

That's exactly waht it is. It's a gigantic lentoid circle jerk for commies to link up and say "SEE..... HAVE FAITH COMRADES!!! YOUR EYES ARE LYING!! SUPPLY AND DEMAND AREN'T A REAL THING!!!!!"

Sorry, basic economics applies everywhere on the planet in every culture, language and currency, including the USA. You're full of shit....again.

 

[showzeroff]

They lost by not going far left enough to offer any real, hopeful alternative to plutocratic rule and the low-wage economy it produces.

Looking into Kamala's eyes, one could see there was nobody home.