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[ll74]

No change in safety

You have interesting answers.

 

[pocjet]

Israel is losing the war

War cabinet minister and former IDF chief of staff Gadi Eisenkot called for new elections and scoffed at Netanyahu’s promise to vanquish Hamas. Eisenkot, who lost a son fighting in Gaza, also declared that he had no confidence any longer in Netanyahu’s leadership:

The interview with Eisenkot aired hours after Netanyahu rejected the idea of holding elections in the middle of a war that he has said could well continue into 2025, and vowed to “bring complete victory” over Hamas in response to the Gaza-ruling terror group’s October 7 attacks, when thousands of terrorists went on a killing spree across southern Israel, massacring 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and taking some 240 as hostages.
“Whoever speaks of absolute defeat is not speaking the truth,” Eisenkot said in the interview. “That is why we should not tell stories… Today, the situation already in the Gaza Strip is such that the goals of the war have not yet been achieved.” …
Asked whether Israel’s current leadership is telling the public the truth, Eisenkot responded simply, “No,” and appeared to take a jab at Netanyahu’s refusal so far to take direct responsibility for the October 7 intelligence, military and leadership failures.
“I am already at the stage and at an age where I do not trust this or that leader with my eyes closed, and I judge a man by his decisions and the way he leads the country,” he said.

 

[ll74]

Israel is losing the war

War cabinet minister and former IDF chief of staff Gadi Eisenkot called for new elections and scoffed at Netanyahu’s promise to vanquish Hamas. Eisenkot, who lost a son fighting in Gaza, also declared that he had no confidence any longer in Netanyahu’s leadership:

Well, when the stated objectives can't be met, as you suggest, then the war was lost before it began.

 

[pocjet]

there is no alternative......

 

[pocjet]

I see lots of stories about cell phones n internet being out in Gaza, yet I see tons of TWEETS by Gazans so how can internet and cell be out? All lies!

 

[ll74]

there is no alternative......

Yes, that's what some have claimed.

 

[ll74]

I see lots of stories about cell phones n internet being out in Gaza, yet I see tons of TWEETS by Gazans so how can internet and cell be out? All lies!

If everything is a lie, what is the truth?

 

[pocjet]

If everything is a lie, what is the truth?

what I say

 

[ll74]

what I say

Ok white_bB

 

[pocjet]

Hamas will never make a deal, cause if they did, they lose all leverage

Israel cannot bring back hostages alive without a deal, war cabinet minister says​

 

[ll74]

Hamas will never make a deal, cause if they did, they lose all leverage

Israel cannot bring back hostages alive without a deal, war cabinet minister says​

Who said a deal was needed to retrieve hostages?

There are always alternatives.

 

[pocjet]

Israeli war cabinet minister Gadi Eisenkot believes his country won’t be able to bring the hostages taken by Hamas back alive through military means, saying their release needs to be negotiated.

“I think we need to say it bravely, that we cannot bring the hostages alive now if it's not as part of a deal,” Eisenkot told an Israeli broadcaster during an interview on Thursday evening local time, saying that those who suggest otherwise are “selling lies.”

Former Chief of Staff vs YOU.............Hmmmm..............

 

[ll74]

Israeli war cabinet minister Gadi Eisenkot believes his country won’t be able to bring the hostages taken by Hamas back alive through military means, saying their release needs to be negotiated.




Former Chief of Staff vs YOU.............Hmmmm..............

All I've said is that there are alternatives for every situation. If you can't reach your objectives with current approaches, try other means to reach them or rework your objectives.

Gadi may be correct. But all the current approach is doing, based on your own words, is an endless war that threatens the safety and livelihood of millions of people. Imo, that's dumb.

 

[Rightguide]

Isis was never destroyed...diminished but not destroyed. And that,.literally, demonstrates why the "war on terror" is mostly words instead of an objective and obtainable goal.

About 95% of its territorial operational capability was destroyed, so for all practical purposes it has been destroyed. Read about it here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/23/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-isis-caliphate

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state

 

[ll74]

About 95% of its territorial operational capability was destroyed, so for all practical purposes it has been destroyed. Read about it here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/23/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-isis-caliphate

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state

I already said, it was diminished. Can you not fucking read?

If your goal is to destroy them, then diminished is not sufficient.

 

[Rightguide]

We created isis as did israel create Hamas. Best way to control the opposition is to own it.

The best way is to destroy it like we did Isil:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/23/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-isis-caliphate

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state

 

[ll74]

The best way is to destroy it like we did Isil:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/23/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-isis-caliphate

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state

Isis has taken credit for four attacks already this year.

 

[Rightguide]

I already said, it was diminished. Can you not fucking read?

If your goal is to destroy them, then diminished is not sufficient.

It has been "greatly" diminished. If you want to parse that be saying there may be some members here and there, be my guest, but for all practical purposes, it has been destroyed.

 

[ll74]

It has been "greatly" diminished. If you want to parse that be saying there may be some members here and there, be my guest, but for all practical purposes, it has been destroyed.

Yes, you miss my point. But that's not surprising.

 

[pocjet]

If Israel is ‘winning the war’ on Hamas, why are rockets falling?​

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You are the type who would have called Steven Hawking dumb.

You’re quite possibly the dumbest creature on here!! Thousands of videos of “Joe Biden” for years with no speech impediment. Willfully ignorant to the bone

I do find it interesting that Steven hawking was a frequent flyer on the Lolita express. That’s some shameless debauchery.

Do you even know who Steven Hawking is? Wait I withdraw that question , I know the answer; you have no fucking clue.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

Do you even know who Steven Hawking is? Wait I withdraw that question , I know the answer; you have no fucking clue.

Ya. Never heard of him. C’mon man. You are drivel. He was there.

 

[silky52]

Adding one more question here:
Is Israel safer because of their actions than they were?

To answer your question; inasmuch as there is more awareness, yes. There are now stringent security directives in place. Inasmuch as can it happen again, yes possibly. Nowhere is 100% safe in this world, not the US, not the UK, certainly not in many Asian countries, etc. etc. Hamas-ISIS and Hezbollah try all the time to infiltrate Israel. So far, the IDF is extremely vigilant.

Personally, I can't see how Hamas-ISIS can be completely eradicated, as some have stated no one has done that yet to any of the evil entities who aspire to terrorism! Even the Nazis are still alive and well in the mighty US and all lover Europe! It's all so sad that one cannot live in peace. That these terrorists get up each morning with the intent to kill Jews! To eradicate the Jewish Nation. To wipe the Jewish people off the face of this earth! Therefore, the Jews have to defend themselves! Tell me where else in the world are there so many against one set of people? I know there are other terrorists who are against other people, but not as many as are against the Jews.

 

[ll74]

To answer your question; inasmuch as there is more awareness, yes. There are now stringent security directives in place. Inasmuch as can it happen again, yes possibly. Nowhere is 100% safe in this world, not the US, not the UK, certainly not in many Asian countries, etc. etc. Hamas-ISIS and Hezbollah try all the time to infiltrate Israel. So far, the IDF is extremely vigilant.

Didn't another attack happen in the country last week?

Why aren't Israelis calling for Neranyahu to step down? Still not getting that.

 

[Lazaran]

I sure did post that Palestinian propagandist, debate was getting more than a bit one-sided here. I felt she made some good points.

Also, "refusal to condemn" is not the same as "justifying/condoning" in my book. YMMV.

You can lecture us all about Gaza committing "Genocide" all you like, but the casualty rate of somewhere around 15-20 to 1 is a much better indicator to me about who is committing genocide on who.

Side note: Have you seen the latest slick PR trick from the IDF? Captive female Israeli soldiers are being called "hostages". I'm so old I remember when captured soldiers were called "Prisoners of War".

You lost me at hello.



The Palestinian "civilians" and their supporters lost me with their toleration of the Hamas animal’s terror attacks (and the Palestinian "civilians" participation in gray zone warfare), and then their celebrations / rallies in support of the Hamas animals IMMEDIATELY after the Hamas animal’s October 7th GENOCIDAL rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation.



The Palestinians, etc, could / should have accepted Israel as a Jewish State within the borders of the partition back in 1948…but they didn’t. Instead, the Palestinians, etc, chose open warfare, and, when that failed, incessant terror.



The excess deaths on the Palestinian side are the result of incessantly “poking the bear”, and then, on October 7th, attacking the bear’s cubs.