ISRAELI ARMY ADMITS FAULT IN PALESTINIAN AMBULANCE MASSACRE!

[BrightShinyGirl]

(Goes over to library)

Where should I start? Should I start at the top left with Airborne Armour and continue unit I reach the bottom right with Enemy At The Gates? Stopping along the way to mention Decisive Battles Of The Western World, A History of Warfare, Panzer Battles, The War Of Atonement, War As I Knew It, and Japanese Destroyer Captain.

I'm well aware of history. My favourite area of study. Apparently not yours as there had already been millions of deaths before America joined the war.

What I've learned is that the purpose of warfare is to make your opponent do what you want. Not to kill every last one of them.

Israel is trying to get Hamas to release their hostages and disarm.

 

[rgraham666]

Israel is trying to get Hamas to release their hostages and disarm.

Is that possible? Would the current government of Israel accept it?

I'm doubtful on both counts.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Is that possible? Would the current government of Israel accept it?

I'm doubtful on both counts.

There was peace in Gaza before Hamas attacked on October 7th. There's no reason to think that the IDF won't stand down once the hostages are freed and Hamas is disarmed.

 

[Politruk]

Israel is trying to get Hamas to release their hostages and disarm.

What happens if they release the hostage but don't disarm?

Hamas has no reason to agree to any terms that will not allow it to survive as an organization.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

What happens if they release the hostage but don't disarm?

Hamas has no reason to agree to any terms that will not allow it to survive as an organization.

Israel has no reason to to allow Hamas to remain a threat. The IDF will continue operations in Gaza until Hamas surrenders.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Jews are people. Just like any others. They cover the whole range of human behaviours from absolute saints to utter monsters.

I will always call out the latter and support the former.

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ averages of any race. 80% of Jews are Ashkenazim. That is why Jews tend to be successful and prosperous. Those who dislike Jews resent them for their success and prosperity. I am not Jewish, by the way. I like Jews and Jewish things, so I look for kosher certification in the foods I eat. The following chart shows symbols of various kosher certification organizations.

 

[JohnEngelman]

What happens if they release the hostage but don't disarm?

Hamas has no reason to agree to any terms that will not allow it to survive as an organization.

Hamas has no right to exist.

 

[Lance_Castro]

I like how you segued from Israel to the Jews worldwide. Well done. At least you are honest, unlike the others here.

Well, it’s true.

After all, Jews invented lending money for Interest.

This whole “ you’re an anti semite” routine is a bit lame.

It’s like pointing and saying “you’re a white male” as the “ blame” for having success and power.

 

[rgraham666]

Well, it’s true.

After all, Jews invented lending money for Interest.

This whole “ you’re an anti semite” routine is a bit lame.

It’s like pointing and saying “you’re a white male” as the “ blame” for having success and power.

That is not true. Not even a little.

The main reason Jews were involved in money lending was so that 'Good Christians' didn't have other dirty their hands with it. Since the Bible makes it quite clear that money lending in any form was a sin.

Of course it meant that the occasional pogrom meant that any debts to Jews could be cancelled. Which is a lot cheaper, in money terms, than paying it back.

 

[Politruk]

Since the Bible makes it quite clear that money lending in any form was a sin.

No, it doesn't. The Church based that doctrine on Aristotle, not the Bible.

 

[rgraham666]

There was peace in Gaza before Hamas attacked on October 7th. There's no reason to think that the IDF won't stand down once the hostages are freed and Hamas is disarmed.

If Gaza was peaceful does that mean the Warsaw Ghetto was peaceful?

I sincerely doubt the IDF will ever stand down.

it will be impossible to remove everything resembling a weapon from Gaza. If you want I can show you how to kill or main someone with a rolled-up magazine. A lot of damage can be done with a pair of chopsticks as well. Not to mention kitchen implements, gasoline, or fertilizer.

Also, I'm sure a number of those hostages are dead, and considering the wide use of high explosives by the IDF, there may be little to return. What then? Does the IDF continue until the sea covers Gaza due to Gaza being reduced to being below sea level.

(Shrugs) It doesn't matter I'm afraid. Too many people on all sides of the conflict do not want peace. They want victory. Which is something else altogether.

 

[rgraham666]

No, it doesn't. The Church based that doctrine on Aristotle, not the Bible.

Um, it took me seconds to find verses from the Bible that say otherwise.

 

[rgraham666]

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ averages of any race. 80% of Jews are Ashkenazim. That is why Jews tend to be successful and prosperous. Those who dislike Jews resent them for their success and prosperity. I am not Jewish, by the way. I like Jews and Jewish things, so I look for kosher certification in the foods I eat. The following chart shows symbols of various kosher certification organizations.

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I am confused. Is there a link between IQ, which is different from intelligence, and goodness.

The Nazi regime, and the Soviet, would make it seem otherwise. There were lots of intelligent people serving those regimes.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

If Gaza was peaceful does that mean the Warsaw Ghetto was peaceful?

I sincerely doubt the IDF will ever stand down.

it will be impossible to remove everything resembling a weapon from Gaza. If you want I can show you how to kill or main someone with a rolled-up magazine. A lot of damage can be done with a pair of chopsticks as well. Not to mention kitchen implements, gasoline, or fertilizer.

Also, I'm sure a number of those hostages are dead, and considering the wide use of high explosives by the IDF, there may be little to return. What then? Does the IDF continue until the sea covers Gaza due to Gaza being reduced to being below sea level.

(Shrugs) It doesn't matter I'm afraid. Too many people on all sides of the conflict do not want peace. They want victory. Which is something else altogether.

The Warsaw Ghetto was the site of mass atrocities and when the Nazis finally stormed it, they shipped the survivors off to the death camps.

Gaza before October 7th was a paradise by comparison. Families lived peacefully in apartments with running water and there were functioning restaurants and food in the markets.

Making false comparisons between the Holocaust and the war in Gaza is insulting to the victims of the Nazi genocide.

 

[rgraham666]

The Warsaw Ghetto was the site of mass atrocities and when the Nazis finally stormed it, they shipped the survivors off to the death camps.

Gaza before October 7th was a paradise by comparison. Families lived peacefully in apartments with running water and there were functioning restaurants and food in the markets.

Making false comparisons between the Holocaust and the war in Gaza is insulting to the victims of the Nazi genocide.

They've ended up int the same place though, haven't they?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Um, it took me seconds to find verses from the Bible that say otherwise.

The quote from Exodus means that Jews should not charge other Jews interest if they're poor. All the rules in the Torah are meant to apply to Jews alone.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

They've ended up int the same place though, haven't they?

Hardly. Antisemites love to claim that Israel is perpetrating a genocide against the Gazans, but the population of that territory has been growing steadily for years. There's nothing like the Nazi extermination camps, or their mass executions.

 

[Lazaran]

They've ended up int the same place though, haven't they?

Seriously???

 

[Politruk]

Hardly. Antisemites love to claim that Israel is perpetrating a genocide against the Gazans, but the population of that territory has been growing steadily for years.

And declining steadily since this war started, for no reason that has anything to do with defeating Hamas or freeing the hostages.

 

[Politruk]

Hamas has no right to exist.

No less right than the Israeli State.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

And declining steadily since this war started, for no reason that has anything to do with defeating Hamas or freeing the hostages.

People die in war zones. If Hamas surrendered and released the hostages a lot of Gazan lives could be saved.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

No less right than the Israeli State.

Hamas is a brutal terrorist organization that steals from the people it rules over. Israel is a democracy that grants equal rights to minorities. Jews have lived continuously in the land of Israel for thousands of years. Palestinian identity was invented out of whole cloth 50 years ago to provide a focus for Arab resentment and Jew-hate.

 

[Politruk]

Jews have lived continuously in the land of Israel for thousands of years. Palestinian identity was invented out of whole cloth 50 years ago to provide a focus for Arab resentment and Jew-hate.

That is a damned lie. The Palestinians have lived there continuously for thousands of years. They are descended from the ancient Israelites, Canaanites and Philistines. They have changed their language and religion several times over the centuries, but they are still the indigenous people of Palestine/Canaan -- they did not come in with the Islamic Arab conquests.

 

[jomar]

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ averages of any race. 80% of Jews are Ashkenazim. That is why Jews tend to be successful and prosperous.

You sure you want to go with that?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

That is a damned lie. The Palestinians have lived there continuously for thousands of years. They are descended from the ancient Israelites, Canaanites and Philistines. They have changed their language and religion several times over the centuries, but they are still the indigenous people of Palestine/Canaan -- they did not come in with the Islamic Arab conquests.

The Palestinian Jews have lived there continuously for thousands of year. The Palestinian Arabs make claims to indigeneity that are unsupported by their culture and language. Most of them are descended from workers from Egypt, Syria or Jordan who came to the Jewish areas of Mandatory Palestine in the 1930's to take advantage of the local prosperity.