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[ll74]

Hamas is evil and needs to face the same destruction as Isis.Il

Isis was never destroyed...diminished but not destroyed. And that,.literally, demonstrates why the "war on terror" is mostly words instead of an objective and obtainable goal.

 

[RobDownSouth]

EVERYTHING in Gaza is a legitimate target because of how pervasive Hamas is in the territory.

Everything? So Genocide is then "legitimately" justified?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Wow. Guess it’s really gotten worse! Plenty footage of that idiot speaking perfectly for decades. You are dumb man.

You are the type who would have called Steven Hawking dumb.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisha...-americans-with-disabilities/?sh=38886f451a82

https://www.uclahealth.org/news/joe-bidens-history-of-stuttering-sheds-light-on-the-condition

https://niemanreports.org/articles/biden-stutter/

You're the insensitive asshole laughing at a person's lifelong physical disorder. Try talking with some marbles in your mouth and see what you sound like.

 

[Lazaran]

Everything? So Genocide is then "legitimately" justified?

You just posted a video of a Palestinian propagandist justifying / condoning the Hamas animal’s October 7th GENOCIDAL rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation.



And I guarantee that Israel is showing more restraint than I would recommend to our leaders if those Hamas animals were constantly terrorizing America with indiscriminate rocket attacks and constant gray zone warfare tactics - WITH the APPARENT support of the general Palestinian "civilian" population. - Not to mention the October 7th GENOCIDAL rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Hamas is evil and needs to face the same destruction as Isis.

Don't you get it yet? Israel's actions since October 7 have created the next generation of Palestinian militants, call them what you want. Hamas didn't exist until 1987. The military mind of wanting to blast things off the face of the Earth whenever they get presented with a problem, is not going to do them any good.

 

[RobDownSouth]

"A group of Palestinians attacked a Christian holy site in the West Bank over the weekend, causing extensive damage, according to media reports.

Palestinians from the Balata refugee camp in the city of Shechem were armed with guns, firebombs and stones during the Sunday night attack on Jacob's Well near Nablus, sources told the Tazpit Press Service, an Israeli news agency."

Yes Rob, I can see how you would equate singing a song to sing extensive damage to a religious holy site.

Totally the same thing.

Want to hear something really interesting?
The IDF yahoos who desecrated the Muslim mosque were officially reprimanded and punished by the IDF

To Summarize, the IDF turns a blind eye to the following offenses:

• Killing civilians
• Raping civilians
• Killing civilian children
• Burning corpses and running over charred remains with tanks
• Killing Israeli civilians shouting in Hebrew waving white flags

The IDF will seek out and punish the following offenses:

• Singing Hannukah songs over Muslim mosque loudspeakers used to call the faithful to prayer

Rules of engagement are far different in Israel than in civilized countries!

 

[RobDownSouth]

You just posted a video of a Palestinian propagandist justifying / condoning the Hamas animal’s October 7th GENOCIDAL rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation.

I sure did post that Palestinian propagandist, debate was getting more than a bit one-sided here. I felt she made some good points.

Also, "refusal to condemn" is not the same as "justifying/condoning" in my book. YMMV.

And I guarantee that Israel is showing more restraint than I would recommend to our leaders if those Hamas animals were constantly terrorizing America with indiscriminate rocket attacks and constant gray zone warfare tactics - WITH the APPARENT support of the general Palestinian "civilian" population. - Not to mention the October 7th GENOCIDAL rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation.

You can lecture us all about Gaza committing "Genocide" all you like, but the casualty rate of somewhere around 15-20 to 1 is a much better indicator to me about who is committing genocide on who.

Side note: Have you seen the latest slick PR trick from the IDF? Captive female Israeli soldiers are being called "hostages". I'm so old I remember when captured soldiers were called "Prisoners of War".

 

[ll74]

An objective thought experiment.
The stated objectives of the Israel response to October 7 has been
1. Destruction of Hamas
2. Freeing of Hamas hostages

Since the start of the response, is Israel closer to those goals?
Is there any possible path to either of those things? (Keep in mind both ISIS and al Qaeda continue to exist)

 

[pocjet]

An objective thought experiment.
The stated objectives of the Israel response to October 7 has been
1. Destruction of Hamas
2. Freeing of Hamas hostages

Since the start of the response, is Israel closer to those goals?
Is there any possible path to either of those things? (Keep in mind both ISIS and al Qaeda continue to exist)

1-No
2-No

 

[pocjet]

I sure did post that Palestinian propagandist, debate was getting more than a bit one-sided here. I felt she made some good points.

Also, "refusal to condemn" is not the same as "justifying/condoning" in my book. YMMV.

You can lecture us all about Gaza committing "Genocide" all you like, but the casualty rate of somewhere around 15-20 to 1 is a much better indicator to me about who is committing genocide on who.

Side note: Have you seen the latest slick PR trick from the IDF? Captive female Israeli soldiers are being called "hostages". I'm so old I remember when captured soldiers were called "Prisoners of War".

then you should also KNOW that the GC and "rules of war" dont apply to terrorists

 

[silky52]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1748104968781848903

 

[silky52]

Everything? So Genocide is then "legitimately" justified?

There is NO genocide in Gaza. Genocide was committed on October 7th in Israel when Hamas-ISIs invaded Israeli territory and committed beyond the imagination atrocities. Please educated yourself!

 

[ll74]

There is NO genocide in Gaza. Genocide was committed on October 7th in Israel when Hamas-ISIs invaded Israeli territory and committed beyond the imagination atrocities. Please educated yourself!

What, specifically is the definition of genocide?

 

[silky52]

An objective thought experiment.
The stated objectives of the Israel response to October 7 has been
1. Destruction of Hamas
2. Freeing of Hamas hostages

Since the start of the response, is Israel closer to those goals?
Is there any possible path to either of those things? (Keep in mind both ISIS and al Qaeda continue to exist)

So what are you saying? Israel should just pack up and go home, without the hostages, without destroying Hamas-ISIS? Don't you think that the Israeli government knew all of this long before HI began their atrocities?

 

[silky52]

What, specifically is the definition of genocide?

The word “genocide” did not exist prior to 1944. It is a very specific term coined by a Polish-Jewish lawyer named Raphael Lemkin (1900–1959) who sought to describe Nazi policies of systematic murder during the Holocaust, including the destruction of European Jews. He formed the word genocide by combining geno-, from the Greek word for race or tribe, with -cide, from the Latin word for killing.

 

[ll74]

So what are you saying? Israel should just pack up and go home, without the hostages, without destroying Hamas-ISIS? Don't you think that the Israeli government knew all of this long before HI began their atrocities?

I asked specific questions. I am not saying anything about the answers.to those questions, except that Israel should.also be asking them.

As for whether the Israeli government knew they couldn't achieve their stated objectives or not.....good question

 

[ll74]

The word “genocide” did not exist prior to 1944. It is a very specific term coined by a Polish-Jewish lawyer named Raphael Lemkin (1900–1959) who sought to describe Nazi policies of systematic murder during the Holocaust, including the destruction of European Jews. He formed the word genocide by combining geno-, from the Greek word for race or tribe, with -cide, from the Latin word for killing.

So did Hamas kill a race on October 7?
Has Israel killed a race or a tribe since then?

I asked for the definition because I believe the word.is being thrown around rather loosely and it's important to put things in context.

I don't believe genocide is occurring.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

You are the type who would have called Steven Hawking dumb.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisha...-americans-with-disabilities/?sh=38886f451a82

https://www.uclahealth.org/news/joe-bidens-history-of-stuttering-sheds-light-on-the-condition

https://niemanreports.org/articles/biden-stutter/

You're the insensitive asshole laughing at a person's lifelong physical disorder. Try talking with some marbles in your mouth and see what you sound like.

You’re quite possibly the dumbest creature on here!! Thousands of videos of “Joe Biden” for years with no speech impediment. Willfully ignorant to the bone

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

I do find it interesting that Steven hawking was a frequent flyer on the Lolita express. That’s some shameless debauchery.

 

[ll74]

I do find it interesting that Steven hawking was a frequent flyer on the Lolita express. That’s some shameless debauchery.

Probably should delete this and put it in an appropriate thread that deals with your topic.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

Hamas is evil and needs to face the same destruction as Isis.

We created isis as did israel create Hamas. Best way to control the opposition is to own it.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

Probably should delete this and put it in an appropriate thread that deals with your topic.

Talk to fuzzy bro.

 

[ll74]

Talk to fuzzy bro.

Addressing you both actually.

 

[ll74]

An objective thought experiment.
The stated objectives of the Israel response to October 7 has been
1. Destruction of Hamas
2. Freeing of Hamas hostages

Since the start of the response, is Israel closer to those goals?
Is there any possible path to either of those things? (Keep in mind both ISIS and al Qaeda continue to exist)

Adding one more question here:
Is Israel safer because of their actions than they were?

 

[pocjet]

No change in safety