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ll74 said:
I specifically used your logic to demonstrate that you support genocide. Whether you find that to be an issue or not isn't my fault or care
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It's not genocide to defence oneself!
 
silky52 said:
It's not genocide to defence oneself!
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If you cannot understand the difference between Hamas and a civilian Palestinian, and you want to destroy Hamas, there is no other conclusion to be reached.
 
silky52 said:
That is the issue here, one cannot know, who is and who is not!!! The point is that HI have grossly exaggerated the number of actual civilians who have been killed. Why on earth would anyone want to see another group of people suffer? I have no animosity towards the Arabs in Gaza, except when they come to murder, rape and mutilate and capture my people, and fire rockets!!!

Would you have your four year old taught about Jihad? Would you have your small children at school where Jihad and rifles, and guns are taught to be their playthings? Where hate is in their text books. It's not Israelis who are doing this to the 'civilians', it's HI!!! They are teaching them to hate, so yes most of them are HI.
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Hamas could save a lot of innocent lives by wearing uniforms to distinguish themselves from the civilian population of Gaza.
 
silky52 said:
You are so incorrect!! Shame you can't do as I said and come here and take a look for yourself. Then you would understand that the media for one is most certainly to blame for mountains of misinformation, plus the way information is disseminated to the public. If you care to take a look at Douglas Murrey's videos on YouTube. He speaks of the woke, and all that is happening to change the world. He's not Jewish, and he's not prejudice.

Those 'civilians' as you call them are mostly Hamas-ISIS. I posted a few things above about what those lovely civilians have done. By the way HI hides their guns/rifles etc, and then walks out into the street as a 'civilian'. Then the world sees a civilian killed and not a murderous HI terrorist!
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Sorry, but that’s just massive, self serving simplification.


No, they’re not mostly Hamas. You’ve already despatched more numbers than Hamas had to start with.

They're mostly civilians living in a part of the world where Hamas rules the roost and there’s not a huge amount they can do about that. They can do no more about it than the North Koreans can turf out the head case that dominates every waking minute of their lives.

It‘s militarily very difficult to fight urban warfare without civilians coming off worst, but your defence of the number of dead relies on pretending children are terrorists.
 
ll74 said:
If you cannot understand the difference between Hamas and a civilian Palestinian, and you want to destroy Hamas, there is no other conclusion to be reached.
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Well, you do not understand because you have not seen it! I'd like to see what you would do out there!
 
ShandyLeer said:
Sorry, but that’s just massive, self serving simplification.


No, they’re not mostly Hamas. You’ve already despatched more numbers than Hamas had to start with.

They're mostly civilians living in a part of the world where Hamas rules the roost and there’s not a huge amount they can do about that. They can do no more about it than the North Koreans can turf out the head case that dominates every waking minute of their lives.

It‘s militarily very difficult to fight urban warfare without civilians coming off worst, but your defence of the number of dead relies on pretending children are terrorists.
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Very sadly they are terrorists! That's how they are brought up to be terrorists. Otherwise why teach a child to hate and how to operate a rifle!
 
silky52 said:
Well, you do not understand because you have not seen it! I'd like to see what you would do out there!
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I don't need to see anything. It's a logical conclusion.

It doesn't matter what I "could do". You either believe that a group of people have a right to live or you believe in genocide. That has nothing to do with what others believe or do.
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
Hamas could save a lot of innocent lives by wearing uniforms to distinguish themselves from the civilian population of Gaza.
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That would have been interesting to see. Hamas-ISIS are terrorists they are not an army, so they basically have no uniforms. Extremely hard to distinguish who they are, and yes a lot of them are what we call children!! As they were in Vietnam!
 
silky52 said:
Well, you do not understand because you have not seen it! I'd like to see what you would do out there!
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This argument is getting tired, although I realise how convenient it is.

Some of us wonder if you’d be sticking to this “they’re all terrorists” line if you lived in Gaza.
 
ll74 said:
I don't need to see anything. It's a logical conclusion.

It doesn't matter what I "could do". You either believe that a group of people have a right to live or you believe in genocide. That has nothing to do with what others believe or do.
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You are looking at the situation with logic!!!! Hamas-ISIS has no logic!! Iran has not logic!! You guys are such innocents!
 
ShandyLeer said:
This argument is getting tired, although I realise how convenient it is.

Some of us wonder if you’d be sticking to this “they’re all terrorists” line if you lived in Gaza.
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I actually live 40 kilometres from Gaza!! I did not say they are all terrorists, but I do say that none of you understand what is really happening here.
 
silky52 said:
You are looking at the situation with logic!!!! Hamas-ISIS has no logic!! Iran has not logic!! You guys are such innocents!
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It has nothing to do with the situation. It has to do with your words and perspective. Sorry that you can't accept that genocide is wrong, no matter your reasoning.
 
silky52 said:
I actually live 40 kilometres from Gaza!! I did not say they are all terrorists, but I do say that none of you understand what is really happening here.
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You said there is no difference between Hamas and a Palestinian. How else should we take that?
 
ll74 said:
It has nothing to do with the situation. It has to do with your words and perspective. Sorry that you can't accept that genocide is wrong, no matter your reasoning.
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I never said genocide was right either that's your perspective, not mine!! It has everything to do with the situation, and I'd still like to see you all out of your comfort zones!
 
silky52 said:
I never said genocide was right either that's your perspective, not mine!! It has everything to do with the situation, and I'd still like to see you all out of your comfort zones!
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I think you are quite confused with yourself.

Palestinians have a right to exist and not be killed in war, just as Israelis do.
 
silky52 said:
I actually live 40 kilometres from Gaza!! I did not say they are all terrorists, but I do say that none of you understand what is really happening here.
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Silky, you're no more in Gaza than we are. Closer, yes, but 40 clicks from you is a whole other world compared to yours and mine.
 
The Hamas animals tried / are trying to trigger a worldwide Jihad with its October 7th GENOCIDAL rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation, and the predicted / predictable Israeli retaliatory response.

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Israel is calling the Hamas animal’s bluff and daring the rest of the Arab Muslin world to join in the Jihad: Strength in the face of terror.

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The United States is backing Israel’s play militarily, while simultaneously looking for diplomatic solutions to the crisis and facilitating humanitarian aid.

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The House "republicans" need to stop being Putin’s puppet’s puppets, and pass funding for the southern border, Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan, etc.

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ShandyLeer said:
Silky, you're no more in Gaza than we are. Closer, yes, but 40 clicks from you is a whole other world compared to yours and mine.
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Especially when they are firing rockets at my town! In many ways you are right, of course I live in another world as do most on this thread. However, their other world is never going to be what the west wants it to be!
 
RobDownSouth said:
Israeli sniper enjoys target practice, randomly killing man waving white flag
We used to hang Nazis for that
https://twitter.com/x/status/1749927301444174143
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Another interpretation of the events in / surrounding the same video:

A group of - clearly NOT starving - Hamas animal’s in "civilian" clothing were attempting to reach a hidden Hamas weapons cache / command center in an area that had been restricted by IDF forces who had warned "civilians" to stay away.

The - clearly NOT starving - Hamas animals in "civilian" clothing were also probing the IDF’s defenses to see how close they could get before being fired upon.

The - clearly NOT starving - Hamas animals in "civilian" clothing accomplished one of their objectives, and the Hamas animal in "civilian" clothing that was shot and killed by the IDF will be hailed as a martyr.

A secondary accomplishment by the -clearly NOT starving- Hamas animals in "civilian" clothing, was the production of a "successful" propaganda video, as evidenced by the sharing of the video here in the Lit PB Israel-Hamas war thread.

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