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[ShandyLeer]

More like the media has poisoned the well of the world. Israel does make pinpoint precision as well as they can. I'd like to see some of you out on the field in Gaza! See what you think then!

Your nation has reacted, with good reason, at an atrocity that cost over a thousand civilian lives.

The response has clearly cost multiple times that in civilian lives. That isn’t the media’s doing, and I’m no fan of the media.

I appreciate this is urban warfare, and all that entails - but the scale of civilian death, injury and suffering was a controllable (within reason) and it’s not hard to see how much, or little, care is being taken.

 

[silky52]

When the authoritarian theocrats of Iran are eliminated perhaps a two state solution can be negotiated. The hatred for Israel originates from Iran.

Yes, and no. Jews have always been hated. Antisemitism is simply under the surface of those who have always felt that way. Nowadays, they are supposed to be politically correct, and not say nasty things about Jews. That means that one doesn't really know who is anti semitic any more, except of course for those (especially on this thread) who make it obvious with their nasty comments, and not to be believed statements regarding October 7th or the Holocaust!

The Iranians are however looking to take over the world and have it become entirely Muslim. Anyone who is not Muslim is an infidel so it won't only be Jews that go, it will be most others who won't become Muslim. Plus the Muslims within the Muslims whom the particular type of Iranian Muslims don't consider Muslim, if that makes sense.

 

[silky52]

Your nation has reacted, with good reason, at an atrocity that cost over a thousand civilian lives.

The response has clearly cost multiple times that in civilian lives. That isn’t the media’s doing, and I’m no fan of the media.

I appreciate this is urban warfare, and all that entails - but the scale of civilian death, injury and suffering was a controllable (within reason) and it’s not hard to see how much, or little, care is being taken.

You are so incorrect!! Shame you can't do as I said and come here and take a look for yourself. Then you would understand that the media for one is most certainly to blame for mountains of misinformation, plus the way information is disseminated to the public. If you care to take a look at Douglas Murrey's videos on YouTube. He speaks of the woke, and all that is happening to change the world. He's not Jewish, and he's not prejudice.

Those 'civilians' as you call them are mostly Hamas-ISIS. I posted a few things above about what those lovely civilians have done. By the way HI hides their guns/rifles etc, and then walks out into the street as a 'civilian'. Then the world sees a civilian killed and not a murderous HI terrorist!

 

[ll74]

You are so incorrect!! Shame you can't do as I said and come here and take a look for yourself. Then you would understand that the media for one is most certainly to blame for mountains of misinformation, plus the way information is disseminated to the public. If you care to take a look at Douglas Murrey's videos on YouTube. He speaks of the woke, and all that is happening to change the world. He's not Jewish, and he's not prejudice.

Those 'civilians' as you call them are mostly Hamas-ISIS. I posted a few things above about what those lovely civilians have done. By the way HI hides their guns/rifles etc, and then walks out into the street as a 'civilian'. Then the world sees a civilian killed and not a murderous HI terrorist!

If every Palestinian is considered Hamas to you and you support the declared objective of the destruction of Hamas, then you literally support the genocide of Palestinians.

 

[silky52]

If every Palestinian is considered Hamas to you and you support the declared objective of the destruction of Hamas, then you literally support the genocide of Palestinians.

That is the issue here, one cannot know, who is and who is not!!! The point is that HI have grossly exaggerated the number of actual civilians who have been killed. Why on earth would anyone want to see another group of people suffer? I have no animosity towards the Arabs in Gaza, except when they come to murder, rape and mutilate and capture my people, and fire rockets!!!

Would you have your four year old taught about Jihad? Would you have your small children at school where Jihad and rifles, and guns are taught to be their playthings? Where hate is in their text books. It's not Israelis who are doing this to the 'civilians', it's HI!!! They are teaching them to hate, so yes most of them are HI.

 

[ll74]

That is the issue here, one cannot know, who is and who is not!!! The point is that HI have grossly exaggerated the number of actual civilians who have been killed. Why on earth would anyone want to see another group of people suffer? I have no animosity towards the Arabs in Gaza, except when they come to murder, rape and mutilate and capture my people, and fire rockets!!!

I specifically used your logic to demonstrate that you support genocide. Whether you find that to be an issue or not isn't my fault or care.

Would you have your four year old taught about Jihad? Would you have your small children at school where Jihad and rifles, and guns are taught to be their playthings? Where hate is in their text books. It's not Israelis who are doing this to the 'civilians', it's HI!!! They are teaching them to hate, so yes most of them are HI.

Other people's views are not an excuse for your own

 

[silky52]

I specifically used your logic to demonstrate that you support genocide. Whether you find that to be an issue or not isn't my fault or care

It's not genocide to defence oneself!

 

[ll74]

It's not genocide to defence oneself!

If you cannot understand the difference between Hamas and a civilian Palestinian, and you want to destroy Hamas, there is no other conclusion to be reached.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

That is the issue here, one cannot know, who is and who is not!!! The point is that HI have grossly exaggerated the number of actual civilians who have been killed. Why on earth would anyone want to see another group of people suffer? I have no animosity towards the Arabs in Gaza, except when they come to murder, rape and mutilate and capture my people, and fire rockets!!!

Would you have your four year old taught about Jihad? Would you have your small children at school where Jihad and rifles, and guns are taught to be their playthings? Where hate is in their text books. It's not Israelis who are doing this to the 'civilians', it's HI!!! They are teaching them to hate, so yes most of them are HI.

Hamas could save a lot of innocent lives by wearing uniforms to distinguish themselves from the civilian population of Gaza.

 

[ShandyLeer]

You are so incorrect!! Shame you can't do as I said and come here and take a look for yourself. Then you would understand that the media for one is most certainly to blame for mountains of misinformation, plus the way information is disseminated to the public. If you care to take a look at Douglas Murrey's videos on YouTube. He speaks of the woke, and all that is happening to change the world. He's not Jewish, and he's not prejudice.

Those 'civilians' as you call them are mostly Hamas-ISIS. I posted a few things above about what those lovely civilians have done. By the way HI hides their guns/rifles etc, and then walks out into the street as a 'civilian'. Then the world sees a civilian killed and not a murderous HI terrorist!

Sorry, but that’s just massive, self serving simplification.


No, they’re not mostly Hamas. You’ve already despatched more numbers than Hamas had to start with.

They're mostly civilians living in a part of the world where Hamas rules the roost and there’s not a huge amount they can do about that. They can do no more about it than the North Koreans can turf out the head case that dominates every waking minute of their lives.

It‘s militarily very difficult to fight urban warfare without civilians coming off worst, but your defence of the number of dead relies on pretending children are terrorists.

 

[silky52]

If you cannot understand the difference between Hamas and a civilian Palestinian, and you want to destroy Hamas, there is no other conclusion to be reached.

Well, you do not understand because you have not seen it! I'd like to see what you would do out there!

 

[silky52]

Sorry, but that’s just massive, self serving simplification.


No, they’re not mostly Hamas. You’ve already despatched more numbers than Hamas had to start with.

They're mostly civilians living in a part of the world where Hamas rules the roost and there’s not a huge amount they can do about that. They can do no more about it than the North Koreans can turf out the head case that dominates every waking minute of their lives.

It‘s militarily very difficult to fight urban warfare without civilians coming off worst, but your defence of the number of dead relies on pretending children are terrorists.

Very sadly they are terrorists! That's how they are brought up to be terrorists. Otherwise why teach a child to hate and how to operate a rifle!

 

[ll74]

Well, you do not understand because you have not seen it! I'd like to see what you would do out there!

I don't need to see anything. It's a logical conclusion.

It doesn't matter what I "could do". You either believe that a group of people have a right to live or you believe in genocide. That has nothing to do with what others believe or do.

 

[silky52]

Hamas could save a lot of innocent lives by wearing uniforms to distinguish themselves from the civilian population of Gaza.

That would have been interesting to see. Hamas-ISIS are terrorists they are not an army, so they basically have no uniforms. Extremely hard to distinguish who they are, and yes a lot of them are what we call children!! As they were in Vietnam!

 

[ShandyLeer]

Well, you do not understand because you have not seen it! I'd like to see what you would do out there!

This argument is getting tired, although I realise how convenient it is.

Some of us wonder if you’d be sticking to this “they’re all terrorists” line if you lived in Gaza.

 

[silky52]

I don't need to see anything. It's a logical conclusion.

It doesn't matter what I "could do". You either believe that a group of people have a right to live or you believe in genocide. That has nothing to do with what others believe or do.

You are looking at the situation with logic!!!! Hamas-ISIS has no logic!! Iran has not logic!! You guys are such innocents!

 

[silky52]

This argument is getting tired, although I realise how convenient it is.

Some of us wonder if you’d be sticking to this “they’re all terrorists” line if you lived in Gaza.

I actually live 40 kilometres from Gaza!! I did not say they are all terrorists, but I do say that none of you understand what is really happening here.

 

[ll74]

You are looking at the situation with logic!!!! Hamas-ISIS has no logic!! Iran has not logic!! You guys are such innocents!

It has nothing to do with the situation. It has to do with your words and perspective. Sorry that you can't accept that genocide is wrong, no matter your reasoning.

 

[ll74]

I actually live 40 kilometres from Gaza!! I did not say they are all terrorists, but I do say that none of you understand what is really happening here.

You said there is no difference between Hamas and a Palestinian. How else should we take that?

 

[silky52]

It has nothing to do with the situation. It has to do with your words and perspective. Sorry that you can't accept that genocide is wrong, no matter your reasoning.

I never said genocide was right either that's your perspective, not mine!! It has everything to do with the situation, and I'd still like to see you all out of your comfort zones!

 

[ll74]

I never said genocide was right either that's your perspective, not mine!! It has everything to do with the situation, and I'd still like to see you all out of your comfort zones!

I think you are quite confused with yourself.

Palestinians have a right to exist and not be killed in war, just as Israelis do.

 

[ShandyLeer]

I actually live 40 kilometres from Gaza!! I did not say they are all terrorists, but I do say that none of you understand what is really happening here.

Silky, you're no more in Gaza than we are. Closer, yes, but 40 clicks from you is a whole other world compared to yours and mine.

 

[Lazaran]

The Hamas animals tried / are trying to trigger a worldwide Jihad with its October 7th GENOCIDAL rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation, and the predicted / predictable Israeli retaliatory response.



Israel is calling the Hamas animal’s bluff and daring the rest of the Arab Muslin world to join in the Jihad: Strength in the face of terror.



The United States is backing Israel’s play militarily, while simultaneously looking for diplomatic solutions to the crisis and facilitating humanitarian aid.



The House "republicans" need to stop being Putin’s puppet’s puppets, and pass funding for the southern border, Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan, etc.

 

[silky52]

Silky, you're no more in Gaza than we are. Closer, yes, but 40 clicks from you is a whole other world compared to yours and mine.

Especially when they are firing rockets at my town! In many ways you are right, of course I live in another world as do most on this thread. However, their other world is never going to be what the west wants it to be!

 

[RobDownSouth]

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