What happens to the Republican Party when Donald Trump dies?

[icanhelp1]

You still haven't said you think will happen to the Republican Party after Trump dies. Yes, the number of Republicans is dwindling. But does the party revive itself with a new policy direction, or go the way of the Whigs?

College kids learn the hard way, conservative republicans will live on. It’s not about Trump afterlife it’s about survival.

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be very liberal, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?" She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over."

Her father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the conservative side of the fence."

If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him..

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

 

[LLCox]

You worry about trump when ex President Dick Cheney is STILL alive.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

College kids learn the hard way, conservative republicans will live on. It’s not about Trump afterlife it’s about survival.

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be very liberal, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?" She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over."

Her father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the conservative side of the fence."

If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him..

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

The portrait you paint of conservatism being about freedom and self-reliance is at odds with reality. Conservatives ban books. They won’t let women make their own healthcare choices. They love government subsidies for private cars. They want everyone to say Christian prayers and observe Christian holidays. They won’t let gay and trans people just live their lives in peace.

They want draconian rules for everyone else, while they do whatever they want with impunity.

 

[RoryN]

The portrait you paint of conservatism being about freedom and self-reliance is at odds with reality. Conservatives ban books. They won’t let women make their own healthcare choices. They love government subsidies for private cars. They want everyone to say Christian prayers and observe Christian holidays. They won’d lets gay and trans people just live their lives in peace.

They want draconian rules for everyone else, while they can do whatever they want with impunity.

Spot on.

But they'll never acknowledge the hypocrisy. They've been trained not to, and they don't have the guts.

 

[Lazaran]

The portrait you paint of conservatism being about freedom and self-reliance is at odds with reality. Conservatives ban books. They won’t let women make their own healthcare choices. They love government subsidies for private cars. They want everyone to say Christian prayers and observe Christian holidays. They won’t let gay and trans people just live their lives in peace.

They want draconian rules for everyone else, while they do whatever they want with impunity.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

Bump.

 

[HisArpy]

The trend favors independents. Gallup polling shows that in 2004, adults who identified as Democrats represented 35%, Republicans 33%, and independents at 31%. Today the GOP and Democrats are tied at 25%, with adults who identify as independent represent a whopping 49%.

https://www.axios.com/2023/04/17/poll-americans-independent-republican-democrat

Numbers don't lie. 25% of respondents to the poll are R's, ie conservatives.

That leaves 75% to be "non" conservatives. You can label them D's if you want, or "fence sitters" when you're talking about I's, but the FACT is, 75% of the people responding to the poll aren't conservatives.

Conservatives are outnumbered. Eventually the US will burn because of the liberal policies of those who either actively seek to destroy it, or those who are indifferent to their own societal futures.

 

[HisArpy]

The portrait you paint of conservatism being about freedom and self-reliance is at odds with reality. Conservatives ban books. They won’t let women make their own healthcare choices. They love government subsidies for private cars. They want everyone to say Christian prayers and observe Christian holidays. They won’t let gay and trans people just live their lives in peace.

They want draconian rules for everyone else, while they do whatever they want with impunity.

Name one book that has been "banned" by conservatives.

 

[RoryN]

Name one book that has been banned by conservatives, so that I can formulate another one of my trademark bullshit bad-faith arguments around the term "banned" and dodge the larger point.

FYP YW.

 

[JohnnySavage]

You still haven't said you think will happen to the Republican Party after Trump dies. Yes, the number of Republicans is dwindling. But does the party revive itself with a new policy direction, or go the way of the Whigs?

That doesn't appear to be the case.

Identification with political parties in the United States between 2010 and 2022

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Name one book that has been "banned" by conservatives.

I'll name 300

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...roughly-300-books-last-school-year-rcna104367

Derp!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

That doesn't appear to be the case.

Identification with political parties in the United States between 2010 and 2022

First line from the study

Since 2010, more people in the U.S. have identified as political independents than Democrats or Republicans,

So maybe more people have joined the Republican party vs Democratic party, but the vast majority claim Independent party status.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

College kids learn the hard way, conservative republicans will live on. It’s not about Trump afterlife it’s about survival.

https://mtlurb.com/topic/10650-hilarious-joke/

Another post, not attributing the source

 

[Chernosoth]

The portrait you paint of conservatism being about freedom and self-reliance is at odds with reality. Conservatives ban books. They won’t let women make their own healthcare choices. They love government subsidies for private cars. They want everyone to say Christian prayers and observe Christian holidays. They won’t let gay and trans people just live their lives in peace.

They want draconian rules for everyone else, while they do whatever they want with impunity.

Minding other people's business is a part of civilization everywhere: China, Europe, Middle East, etc., because humans are nosy people. Maybe it was done less here before the Europeans arrived, so maybe we'll be doing that less as we finally shake off Europe and develop American culture over the next few centuries.

 

[stxjimmy]

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

Bump.

All they want to conserve is their own status and power.
Anything else they’re prepared to trash.

 

[HisArpy]

I'll name 300

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...roughly-300-books-last-school-year-rcna104367

Derp!

Here let me help your lack of understanding by quoting the headline from your linky, with some emphasis:

Florida school districts removed roughly 300 books last school year​

"Removed" isn't "banned." Oopsies.

Then there's the UNDENIABLE FACT that the books are still available. See, for example:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Beloved+...ode=qs&sourceid=Mozilla-search&tag=mozilla-20

Which means that the books aren't actually "banned" by anyone.

Which also means you're not only a liar, but an idiot.

 

[Rightguide]

January 6 2021. I explained the whole process of how Trump could have become America's Caesar that day, and how close it was to happening. Had congresspeople been harmed or worse that day before the 2020 presidential election results had been certified, Trump could have declared a national emergency and stayed in power until new elections. It would have been as if the 2020 election results had never happened, never official.

But he didn't do that.

 

[HisArpy]

But he didn't do that.

We know for a fact what Trump did and didn't do. There were no new wars started under his administration. The riots were left for the States to handle rather than Trump declaring Martial Law and sending in the NG to quell them. Trump built a fence to try and keep the invading illegals out and negotiated a deal with Mexico to have them keep those seeking entrance into the US while their claims were being evaluated.

So, basically we have a historical record of Trump not doing anything to imprison or kill or attack anyone or any country yet the numbnuts on the Left insist that he's a dictator.

Meanwhile under Joe, we had people getting fired for exercising their right to not get vaccinated, going to jail for years without being charged merely for attending a rally in DC, collusion with social media to violate the 1st Amendment Rights of American's, and so on. Yet Joe isn't the dictator despite all of that oppression, it's Trump who didn't do anything.

The only possible explanation is that the Left is mentally ill and delusional. Which, given their opinions on most everything, is irrefutable.

 

[Lazaran]

But he didn't do that.

^
(Quoted for posterity and stupidity)

The corrupt orange traitor and other key members of the insurrection PURPOSEFULLY withheld information from the Capitol Police, etc, about the PRE-PLANNED march / assault on the Capitol on J6.

That ^ is treason.

Plain and simple.



"Right"Guide

 

[HisArpy]

^
(Quoted for posterity and stupidity)

The corrupt orange traitor and other key members of the insurrection PURPOSEFULLY withheld information from the Capitol Police, etc, about the PRE-PLANNED march / assault on the Capitol on J6.

That ^ is treason.

Plain and simple.



"Right"Guide

Treason only has 1 definition in the US. That ain't it.

Which means that whatever your opinion is, it's based on a lie.

Which means that your opinion is worthless.

Have a great day.

 

[Lazaran]

^
(Quoted for posterity and stupidity)

The corrupt orange traitor and other key members of the insurrection PURPOSEFULLY withheld information from the Capitol Police, etc, about the PRE-PLANNED march / assault on the Capitol on J6.

That ^ is treason.

Plain and simple.



"Right"Guide

Treason only has 1 definition in the US. That ain't it.

Which means that whatever your opinion is, it's based on a lie.

Which means that your opinion is worthless.

Have a great day.

Derpy

 

[jomar]

FYP YW.

You called it!

Here let me help your lack of understanding by quoting the headline from your linky, with some emphasis:

Florida school districts removed roughly 300 books last school year​

"Removed" isn't "banned." Oopsies.

Then there's the UNDENIABLE FACT that the books are still available. See, for example:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Beloved+...ode=qs&sourceid=Mozilla-search&tag=mozilla-20

Which means that the books aren't actually "banned" by anyone.

Which also means you're not only a liar, but an idiot.

^^^ RoryN nailed it!

 

[jomar]

We know for a fact what Trump did and didn't do. There were no new wars started under his administration. The riots were left for the States to handle rather than Trump declaring Martial Law and sending in the NG to quell them. Trump built a fence to try and keep the invading illegals out and negotiated a deal with Mexico to have them keep those seeking entrance into the US while their claims were being evaluated.

So, basically we have a historical record of Trump not doing anything to imprison or kill or attack anyone or any country yet the numbnuts on the Left insist that he's a dictator.

Meanwhile under Joe, we had people getting fired for exercising their right to not get vaccinated, going to jail for years without being charged merely for attending a rally in DC, collusion with social media to violate the 1st Amendment Rights of American's, and so on. Yet Joe isn't the dictator despite all of that oppression, it's Trump who didn't do anything.

The only possible explanation is that the Left is mentally ill and delusional. Which, given their opinions on most everything, is irrefutable.

Wow. You've got the twisted talking points down pat. Well done!

 

[stxjimmy]

“attending a rally in DC”

“mentally ill and delusional”

 

[Rightguide]

We know for a fact what Trump did and didn't do. There were no new wars started under his administration. The riots were left for the States to handle rather than Trump declaring Martial Law and sending in the NG to quell them. Trump built a fence to try and keep the invading illegals out and negotiated a deal with Mexico to have them keep those seeking entrance into the US while their claims were being evaluated.

So, basically we have a historical record of Trump not doing anything to imprison or kill or attack anyone or any country yet the numbnuts on the Left insist that he's a dictator.

Meanwhile under Joe, we had people getting fired for exercising their right to not get vaccinated, going to jail for years without being charged merely for attending a rally in DC, collusion with social media to violate the 1st Amendment Rights of American's, and so on. Yet Joe isn't the dictator despite all of that oppression, it's Trump who didn't do anything.

The only possible explanation is that the Left is mentally ill and delusional. Which, given their opinions on most everything, is irrefutable.

We also know that Democrats accuse their political opponents of what they are doing. So when they call Trump Hitler we know it's because they want to misdirect the actions of Joe Biden that resemble those of the crazed goose-stepping tyrant.

 

[ll74]

We also know that Democrats accuse their political opponents of what they are doing. So when they call Trump Hitler we know it's because they want to misdirect the actions of Joe Biden that resemble those of the crazed goose-stepping tyrant.

What specific policy did Biden enact that reflect those of Hitler? Feel free to provide the policy along with the policy that Hitler enacted.