What happens to the Trump movement after Trump?

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There is this right-wing nationalist-populist current in American politics. It manifested in the 1990s with Ross Perot and the Reform Party. (Arguably earlier, in the 1960s, with George Wallace and the American Independent Party.) In the Obama years it re-emerged as the Tea Party. And then Trump placed himself at its head. That’s why you don’t hear anything about the Tea Party any more – it IS the Trump movement.

This current differs from mainstream pro-corporate Republican politics in its economic nationalism and protectionism. It is the kind of thinking that sees the “productive” classes in society, the middle class and the working class (the two classes are not distinguished in this kind of thinking) as being under threat both from the poor/nonwhite below and from the rich/corporations above – see producerism. See also paleoconservatism.

N.B: These are paleocons, not neocons – that is, not foreign-policy warhawks. After all, the military-industrial complex is biggummint, federal and expensive. They generally opposed the Iraq War. Pat Buchanan is a typical specimen of this kind – he wrote a book defending the American isolationist position in WWII. One thing Trump has always told the truth about is his lack of interest in foreign military adventures. So he fits in well here.

Trump is 78 years old. No matter how this election goes, he can’t last much longer. And when he goes, the MOVEMENT will still be there – waiting for somebody else to lead it.

What happens then?
 
I live in Florida, BTW, and I strongly suspect Governor Ron DeSantis’ ambition is to step into Trump’s shoes as movement leader. I'm really WORRIED about that -- DeSantis is smarter than Trump, potentially more effectual.
 
After?
The rise of Donny Junior of course!!
After it’s confirmed that ‘rump passed away in the White House a year after the fact, at the age of 84. In year seven of our Blessed Orange Lord,

Melania’s one year brief gambit to run the nation finally brought to an end as the White House is overrun and burned by Donny’s Truth Brigade
 
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Only Trump can be Trump. That combination of open bigotry and breathtaking shamelessness just cannot be imitated, much less replicated. Of course the deplorables will still be around, but I suspect they'll go back to mostly just not voting.
 
There's also the possibility that Vance will try to lead it.
“They” will try to replace ‘rump pronto after the Reich is established.. or? Vance will be eliminated and a ‘rump kid will replace him.
 
There is this right-wing nationalist-populist current in American politics. It manifested in the 1990s with Ross Perot and the Reform Party. (Arguably earlier, in the 1960s, with George Wallace and the American Independent Party.) In the Obama years it re-emerged as the Tea Party. And then Trump placed himself at its head. That’s why you don’t hear anything about the Tea Party any more – it IS the Trump movement.

This current differs from mainstream pro-corporate Republican politics in its economic nationalism and protectionism. It is the kind of thinking that sees the “productive” classes in society, the middle class and the working class (the two classes are not distinguished in this kind of thinking) as being under threat both from the poor/nonwhite below and from the rich/corporations above – see producerism. See also paleoconservatism.

N.B: These are paleocons, not neocons – that is, not foreign-policy warhawks. After all, the military-industrial complex is biggummint, federal and expensive. They generally opposed the Iraq War. Pat Buchanan is a typical specimen of this kind – he wrote a book defending the American isolationist position in WWII. One thing Trump has always told the truth about is his lack of interest in foreign military adventures. So he fits in well here.

Trump is 78 years old. No matter how this election goes, he can’t last much longer. And when he goes, the MOVEMENT will still be there – waiting for somebody else to lead it.

What happens then?
As a former member of the John Birch Society, I'm very familiar with paleo-con politics. Most paleo-cons were busy living in their bubble of frustration that the GOP had abandoned them until Trump started to mainstream their politics. They were living in a world of unreality, and still do, but now they have power that they lacked in the past, even if they have had to unite with many of the mainstream conservatives that they still despise (and who still despise them).
 
What happens to the Bidenites after Biden is gone? Hell, he's been gone a long time already. :)
 
What happens to the Bidenites after Biden is gone? Hell, he's been gone a long time already. :)
Not a single person worships Biden like MAGA worships Trump. Maybe you could find some who worshipped Obama, but not Biden, and certainly not Kamala.
 
Not a single person worships Biden like MAGA worships Trump. Maybe you could find some who worshipped Obama, but not Biden, and certainly not Kamala.
It's not a symmetrical picture. The GOP has evolved into an ideological party, while the Democratic Party has remained a coalition of interest groups.
 
There is this right-wing nationalist-populist current in American politics. It manifested in the 1990s with Ross Perot and the Reform Party. (Arguably earlier, in the 1960s, with George Wallace and the American Independent Party.) In the Obama years it re-emerged as the Tea Party. And then Trump placed himself at its head. That’s why you don’t hear anything about the Tea Party any more – it IS the Trump movement.

This current differs from mainstream pro-corporate Republican politics in its economic nationalism and protectionism. It is the kind of thinking that sees the “productive” classes in society, the middle class and the working class (the two classes are not distinguished in this kind of thinking) as being under threat both from the poor/nonwhite below and from the rich/corporations above – see producerism. See also paleoconservatism.

N.B: These are paleocons, not neocons – that is, not foreign-policy warhawks. After all, the military-industrial complex is biggummint, federal and expensive. They generally opposed the Iraq War. Pat Buchanan is a typical specimen of this kind – he wrote a book defending the American isolationist position in WWII. One thing Trump has always told the truth about is his lack of interest in foreign military adventures. So he fits in well here.

Trump is 78 years old. No matter how this election goes, he can’t last much longer. And when he goes, the MOVEMENT will still be there – waiting for somebody else to lead it.

What happens then?
What happens if you have a thought and don't make a fucking thread about it?

Sadly we will never know.
 
It's not a symmetrical picture. The GOP has evolved into an ideological party, while the Democratic Party has remained a coalition of interest groups.
It's also a personality cult. Scary, in fact.
 
In term of the Pew Political Typology, these Tea Partiers/Trumpers are the Populist Right.

Very conservative and overwhelmingly Republican, Populist Right hold highly restrictive views about immigration policy and are very critical of government. But, in contrast to other parts of the GOP coalition, their criticism extends well beyond government to views of big business and to the economic system as a whole: 82% say that large corporations are having a negative impact on the way things are going in the country, and nearly half support higher taxes on the wealthy and on large corporations.

Like the other two deeply ideologically conservative typology groups, Populist Right are overwhelmingly White (85%). However, in contrast to these groups, a majority of Populist Right are women (54%). Populist Right are also one of the least highly educated groups; just two-in-ten are college graduates.

Populist Right are among the groups most likely to say that illegal immigration is a very big problem in the country today, and nearly half (48%) say that the number of legal immigrants admitted to the U.S. should decrease. They hold very positive attitudes about former President Donald Trump. About eight-in-ten say they feel warmly toward Trump, and six-in-ten say they feel very warmly toward him. A majority (57%) also say Trump should run for president again in 2024.
 
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