I know you too well to share my kinks.

[hotwords229_A]

I also don’t want to blame society for anything because we are society.
“Societies” morals change with time. The Ancient Greek men were fucking each other like cocks were going out of business. It was considered “normal”.

I think society’s norms are more primitive and instinctual than we want to admit.

If guys were sucking each other’s dicks constantly, it would not bode well for the species. I think we have a fuse in our brains that says “No cock, boobs!” in order to keep our survival on track. It’s just that some guy’s fuses are not easily tripped or not even there. That doesn’t mean anything good or bad, normal or not normal, it’s just how it is.

You can’t blame women (or yourself) for not being into two guys sucking each other off, you have a fuse in your brain too that says “Hey, you should be fucking me, not Steve!”

We are who we are, like what we like and if we would all stop being douchebags (as a society) to each other we could all fuck and enjoy ourselves.

 

[SassySheDevil]

Maybe if all the tv shows that midway through a season jackknife in a lesbian/bi romance would put in MM/bi romances that would change things?

It’s cool, I get that the statistics show having two attractive (ymmv) women making out or more boosts ratings, but it’s an obvious bias towards lipstick lesbian exploration.

Did you see Brokeback Mountain? That was a huge change for Hollywood. But so far very few have followed. My favorite movie of all time is 2 lesbians. (Okay. 1 lesbian. 1 curious) Far sexier (to me) than any hetero movie.

I also don’t want to blame society for anything because we are society.
“Societies” morals change with time. The Ancient Greek men were fucking each other like cocks were going out of business. It was considered “normal”.

I think society’s norms are more primitive and instinctual than we want to admit.

If guys were sucking each other’s dicks constantly, it would not bode well for the species. I think we have a fuse in our brains that says “No cock, boobs!” in order to keep our survival on track. It’s just that some guy’s fuses are not easily tripped or not even there. That doesn’t mean anything good or bad, normal or not normal, it’s just how it is.

You can’t blame women (or yourself) for not being into two guys sucking each other off, you have a fuse in your brain too that says “Hey, you should be fucking me, not Steve!”

We are who we are, like what we like and if we would all stop being douchebags (as a society) to each other we could all fuck and enjoy ourselves.

This is very true. I just hope we can get to a point where we can do this (Stop being douchebags) it will be a happier world. There are many kinks that are not my thing and could probably make me shy away from someone. But more because of compatibility vs being tuned off. I don't think anyone is right or wrong for their beliefs. Like it has been said. This is how we've been raised. Taught. But I've also raised my kids to be pretty open and non-judgmental. Mostly because my dad was such a racist man full of hate. His Dad taught him that. I did see my dad soften as I got older and told him that I didn't want that bullshit in my life and either he keep his biases in check, or I wouldn't bring my kids around. All it takes is one generation to help the next one become more open and accepting. Now my kids will go on to teach their kids similar views and hopefully become even more accepting as even more change is introduced into the world.

 

[SassySheDevil]

You are both probably correct, but the women of lit aren't generally representative of the typical women I meet everyday either so I don't know.

Do you think this is because the women you typically meet in public are still so afraid to talk about so much sexuality so openly?
I have often asked myself this. My in the flesh friends and I don't talk as openly (minus a couple) about sex stuff. I think partially because many of my in the flesh friends are also friends with my husband. So maybe that make it a little more scary??

Plus, personally, I have always found it difficult to answer questions that are so black and white, because I know I am a whole lot of grey and I can't be the only one. I need an acceptable "bored bitch" selection for every question, as the most consistent thing about me is my inconsistently. I thought about how to answer that question 5 years ago, still agree with my wording today, but I still find it a difficult question because of the limited answer range. As for men with the same proclivities, you are correct, and I will admit, I am part of it. I personally do not find 2 men together as attractive, that view is something that bothers me, and that I have worked on quite a bit. I know it is a bullshit societal standard coloring my perception, and a grossly unfair one. Like, I am totally cool with us taking advantage the bored bitch clause of life, but it is kind of weird when you do. I have become much more open to it, but it was difficult as it just collided with the rigidness of my view of masculinity.

I will be honest. For as much as I love watching 2 men together. I can't say watching them make out does it for me. I will watch 2 men fuck and suck each other all fucking day. But bring in the intimacy and it becomes a little more uncomfortable to me. I also struggle with this. Why the difference?
However. I also can't say I even enjoy watching hetero couples make out. So maybe not as bad as I get on myself for.

I don't think having a preference is a bad thing at all. We all do.
I just hope we as a society can get to a point where we can say "This isn't my thing. However. To each their own" and smile and go on with our day.
Even on lit I see Kink shaming instead of just staying out of it. If there is a thread titled "I want to pee on my roommate" and golden showers is not your thing. Why even go in the thread? (not you btw. People in general)

 

[Apisto42]

I’ve watched 15 different series in the past two years that had an “unexpected” plot twist of gasp, one of the female supporting characters is possibly/definitely a lesbian. And you give me a 17 year old movie?!?!?


Hollywood figured out real fucking quick that lipstick lesbians sell ads. Two beefy biker dudes making out harlies is a very limited draw.

If people are going to talk about equality, throw some hot male actors together in the middle of the series. Name them “Token”
1 and 2, but stop pretending that just because you’re throwing what sells at the consumers that you give a shit about portraying the demographics of the world.

I don’t have a dog in this. But the lip service bs gets to me after a while.

Did you see Brokeback Mountain? That was a huge change for Hollywood. But so far very few have followed. My favorite movie of all time is 2 lesbians. (Okay. 1 lesbian. 1 curious) Far sexier (to me) than any hetero movie.

 

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

Do you think this is because the women you typically meet in public are still so afraid to talk about so much sexuality so openly?
I have often asked myself this. My in the flesh friends and I don't talk as openly (minus a couple) about sex stuff. I think partially because many of my in the flesh friends are also friends with my husband. So maybe that make it a little more scary??

Anything is possible, but with my friends, I really don't think so. People tell me all sorts of things they probably shouldn't. Women more then men, but men too. Coworkers will tell me about their affairs, porn preferences. I know how many sexual partners my friends have had, their sex toy experience, what they are unhappy about in the bedroom, their husbands cock size, both their kinks, how often, the time they kissed a girl, hubby's hot cousin, the abortion. It isn't just sexual, I know the shoplifting phase, when they forgot their baby in the car, that hit and run, the divorce planning, the questioning if they drink too much. I think my less serious nature, the non-judgmental tone, the fact I overshare, and the fact I probably have a story to make them feel not so strange or alone may play a part. I can't imagine why they would reveal all they do and not that. Lit women seem to average more extreme then just random women. On lit, I am practically a nun (ok exaggeration), in the real world if I have to go to a church wedding, I am looking up for the hellfire to dodge in case I am wrong. I have to try hard to find my twisty peeps.

I will be honest. For as much as I love watching 2 men together. I can't say watching them make out does it for me. I will watch 2 men fuck and suck each other all fucking day. But bring in the intimacy and it becomes a little more uncomfortable to me. I also struggle with this. Why the difference?
However. I also can't say I even enjoy watching hetero couples make out. So maybe not as bad as I get on myself for.

I don't think having a preference is a bad thing at all. We all do.
I just hope we as a society can get to a point where we can say "This isn't my thing. However. To each their own" and smile and go on with our day.
Even on lit I see Kink shaming instead of just staying out of it. If there is a thread titled "I want to pee on my roommate" and golden showers is not your thing. Why even go in the thread? (not you btw. People in general)

I agree, except when it comes to me. I am especially bothered when my feelings contradict my sense of logic or moral code of just and fair. One major key is I will not hold another person to standards I will not hold to myself. Luckily, I've made my standards real low. It isn't sexual. There are plenty of situations I have required myself to endure, lifestyles to live, in order to have an accurate understanding, test my views, become more open minded. Do not ask me how or why I required myself to learn to eat every food I didn't like.

Now, indeed, some people on lit do need to work on moving on and letting go (though I do get the desire to flame a handful of men, usually in the personals, usually whining about how their superior intellect results in their loneliness lol). And now I am going to look for the person who wants to pee on their roommate because I am just curious about their dilemma haha.

 

[SassySheDevil]

I’ve watched 15 different series in the past two years that had an “unexpected” plot twist of gasp, one of the female supporting characters is possibly/definitely a lesbian. And you give me a 17 year old movie?!?!?


Hollywood figured out real fucking quick that lipstick lesbians sell ads. Two beefy biker dudes making out harlies is a very limited draw.

If people are going to talk about equality, throw some hot male actors together in the middle of the series. Name them “Token”
1 and 2, but stop pretending that just because you’re throwing what sells at the consumers that you give a shit about portraying the demographics of the world.

I don’t have a dog in this. But the lip service bs gets to me after a while.

Oh, there's a ton of lesbian/bi movies. I just don't know of as many where 2 guys have sex. If you know of more. Please point me in that direction.

 

[Apisto42]

No, I’m talking about mainstream media. The shows that are not labeled gay pride or lgbtq+ (apologies if I left anyone off). I get that what goes into the shows that are seeking max audience, can carry a network/streaming service, is money. I’m just tired of the contrived side story to shove a lesbian in.

Fuck it. It’ll pass. All things do.

 

[hotwords229_A]

My husband would probably never tell any of his friends how much he did in our MMF threesome either. It basically (minus actual sex) became MFM but he'd never tell anyone that, and in truth. He did it for me. (He knows this is a huge turn on for me) It was never something he'd openly admit to finding a turn on. Let's just say the dude can deep throat better than I.

We also owe Sassy’s Hubs a round of applause for doing what he could to make her happy.
If he enjoyed it or not, he did it for her (allegedly ) and there’s nothing more manly than that!

 

[SassySheDevil]

We also owe Sassy’s Hubs a round of applause for doing what we could to make her happy.
If he enjoyed it or not, he did it for her (allegedly ) and there’s nothing more manly than that!

I thanked him with a FMF. but Yes. That's devotion.

 

[AveryElle]

I've never hidden my Bi side. I just don't go around throwing it around for attention. Many do. Many like to play the role because they know most guys find it a turn on. Have you ever noticed that 99% of Women on lit are Bi???

Reminds me of college. Flirty girls that would make out with each other when guys were looking. Yuuup.

 

[Apisto42]

Reminds me of college. Flirty girls that would make out with each other when guys were looking. Yuuup.

All girls in college have lesbian sex. That’s just fact.

I’ve seen the pornomentries.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Sassy- I have a question that I can't seem to get an answer to and I think you're probably qualified to answer

What's the difference between MFM and MMF? Is it the plug in configuration?

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HollowShowyKouprey-max-1mb.gif

 

[aussiegeekygal]

All girls in college have lesbian sex. That’s just fact.

I’ve seen the pornomentries.

Bahaha.
Not if you study physics

Then you're stuck fucking the professor.

Plot twist (I was the professor)

 

[Apisto42]

Bahaha.
Not if you study physics

Then you're stuck fucking the professor.

Plot twist (I was the professor)

Nerd sex is the best.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Nerd sex is the best.

That's the only kind I've had

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Lit women seem to average more extreme then just random women. On lit, I am practically a nun (ok exaggeration), in the real world if I have to go to a church wedding, I am looking up for the hellfire to dodge in case I am wrong. I have to try hard to find my twisty peeps.

This rings so true for me. I look around at others on this place and honestly can't imagine getting into the kinds of mischief they do and yet in my circles *out there* I'm practically a harlet

It's taken a huge effort to find fellow pervs offline that been be friends in a way that is supportive and isn't creepy. I've had a lot of success in queer communities because of the work many of those people have done to deconstruct the toxic social programming surrounding sex.

 

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

This rings so true for me. I look around at others on this place and honestly can't imagine getting into the kinds of mischief they do and yet in my circles *out there* I'm practically a harlet

It's taken a huge effort to find fellow pervs offline that been be friends in a way that is supportive and isn't creepy. I've had a lot of success in queer communities because of the work many of those people have done to deconstruct the toxic social programming surrounding sex.

It isn't easy. And yes, the queer community would make sense. I mostly just looked for the weirdest person in the room anywhere. Even if they weren't my type of weird, they were interesting, and that is always worth it. I also ended up looking for fashion keys, unusual hair and clothes. Also, robotics, engineer, and gaming groups seemed to have a higher than normal amount of twisty chicks (if there was a chick). The men obviously real hit and miss. I also did well with a bdsm club and am still friends with a few men and women I met there. I was a bit surprised, as the disciplined, highly structured design of interactions is not my preferred thing, but they were rather exhibitionist, experimentalist friendly.

 

[hotwords229_A]

Sassy- I have a question that I can't seem to get an answer to and I think you're probably qualified to answer

What's the difference between MFM and MMF? Is it the plug in configuration?

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HollowShowyKouprey-max-1mb.gif

I’m not Sassy (a poor substitute) but . . .
MFM: Two guys one girl, guys only touch girl.
MMF: Everybody fucks everybody!

 

[AveryElle]

All girls in college have lesbian sex. That’s just fact.

I’ve seen the pornomentries.

There is definitely a modern porn fueled idea that all women are a little bi.

I’m not at all. I barely like women as friends.

 

[Apisto42]

There is definitely a modern porn fueled idea that all women are a little bi.

I’m not at all. I barely like women as friends.

What you talking about Willis? That sounds like some right wing trumpy talking point.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

What you talking about Willis? That sounds like some right wing trumpy talking point.

Are you talking about this dude? Pfft! He's harmless /s

 

[Apisto42]

Are you talking about this dude? Pfft! He's harmless /s

WTF

I’m glad I had never seen that.

Now I’m sad that I’ve seen that.

 

[AveryElle]

What you talking about Willis? That sounds like some right wing trumpy talking point.

No, that would be ‘don’t let trans kids access medical care’. Not even close!

 

[aussiegeekygal]

WTF

I’m glad I had never seen that.

Now I’m sad that I’ve seen that.

I feel like Mike Diva was prophetic when he released this. I thought it was hilarious back in 2016. Definitely hits differently in 2022

 

[aussiegeekygal]

No, that would be ‘don’t let trans kids exist'. Not even close!

Fixed it for ya