DeSantis wants an election police force

[CornusKousa]

Those things are not at issue. Voter fraud is a non-problem.

The people of Florida disagree with you. Suck that big D of democracy.

There is a long history of intimidation and suppression in this regard, going back to the 1960s, and there will be more if these "election police" actually show up at any polling station.

Keeping cheaters out is not "intimidation and suppression".

 

[pecksniff]

The people of Florida disagree with you. Suck that big D of democracy.

DeSantis is not responding to any popular demand here.

Keeping cheaters out is not "intimidation and suppression".

Nor it is a thing worth doing -- there aren't any cheaters and you know it.

 

[CornusKousa]

DeSantis is not responding to any popular demand here.

You can scream "war is peace" some more.

The elections say otherwise.

Nor it is a thing worth doing -- there aren't any cheaters and you know it.

I don't really give a fuck.

I don't hate American democracy, if Florida voted for (R)'s to run their state, that's what they get. Good for them.

 

[bellisarius]

You can scream "war is peace" some more.

The elections say otherwise.



I don't really give a fuck.

I don't hate American democracy, if Florida voted for (R)'s to run their state, that's what they get. Good for them.

That's the point. If you aren't a Floridian you have no dog in this fight.

 

[ll74]

Those things are not at issue. Voter fraud is a non-problem.



There is a long history of intimidation and suppression in this regard, going back to the 1960s, and there will be more if these "election police" actually show up at any polling station.

Bottom line is, no security is needed. If you look at the 2020 elections, there were no reports where security would've been needed, except at the officials places of residence to prevent threats.

 

[Cubantripod]

It is only important if threatened, which it isn't.

Just like there's no voter suppression. Tit for tat.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

If that is what the people and the legislators of Florida, of what concern is that of yours? Why are you sticking your nose in affairs that have no effect on you?

And as a footnote, DeSantis is fearless. West Palm is deep in the heart of 'woke' country.

Yes, Mar-a-lago is woke central.

 

[CornusKousa]

That's the point. If you aren't a Floridian you have no dog in this fight.

It's amazing how much of a problem (D)'eez have with American democracy isn't it??

What's extra amazing is how little of their own ideas they implement in their own states where they control everything.

 

[Dribble]

That is what the Nazis promoted too. Makes total sense.

 

[CornusKousa]

That is what the Nazis promoted too. Makes total sense.

Also your heroes from the USSR, N. Korea, China and Cuba.

 

[bellisarius]

Yes, Mar-a-lago is woke central.

No such place exists in WPB.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Perhaps Floridians feel election integrity is important.

Let me be honest here. Would you still feel "election integrity was important" if the election results always went your way?

What if Trump had (legitimately, I mean) in fact won the election by a comfortable margin. Would you people even be having this discussion? Would DeSantis even be discussing his Tontons Macoutes election poll squad? No.

With you people, and with the DeSantisis and fellow gestapos of the world, "Election Integrity" only seems to mean "Making sure Democrats don't get to win elections." Because lets be perfectly frank; this (and ONLY this) is the real issue here.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

No such place exists in WPB.

No one said it did.

 

[BidudeinWi]

No, really.



Let us hear no more about wasteful Dem spending, if Pubs are going to devote this level of attention to nonproblems.

For 40 years, the RNC has been banned from being involved in Federal Elections! It wasn’t until recently that the corrupt AF Judge who issued/continuously renewed his order, finally died and it expired! The LibTards have corrupted elections the entire time!

Don’t know what I’m talking about? Don’t be a lazy fuck! Look it up!

 

[WillJ8787]

No, really.



Let us hear no more about wasteful Dem spending, if Pubs are going to devote this level of attention to nonproblems.

...the biggest cheater wins, or the one who carries the biggest stick.

 

[Manny39]

If that is what the people and the legislators of Florida, of what concern is that of yours? Why are you sticking your nose in affairs that have no effect on you?

And as a footnote, DeSantis is fearless. West Palm is deep in the heart of 'woke' country.

It's my concern if any citizen in any state is bullied, threatened, or otherwise prevented from enacting their constitutional rights like I don't know let's say voting.

 

[Comshaw]

Perhaps Floridians feel election integrity is important.

I understand and agree with that. The problem is they have yet to prove that election integrity has, in any significant way, been compromised. Attacking a problem that has no proof of being a problem, operating on accusation rather than evidence, has for ages been used by authoritarians to build their power.

Comshaw

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I understand and agree with that. The problem is they have yet to prove that election integrity has, in any significant way, been compromised. Attacking a problem that has no proof of being a problem, operating on accusation rather than evidence, has for ages been used by authoritarians to build their power.

Comshaw

Whether there is a “proven problem” or the potential for problems exists, Floridians deserve to be confident their votes count. Any citizen who is qualified to vote in the state can do so.

 

[ll74]

Whether there is a “proven problem” or the potential for problems exists, Floridians deserve to be confident their votes count. Any citizen who is qualified to vote in the state can do so.

And in order to address this, the concerns that voters have must be assessed and the problems identified......the majority of concerns many citizens have in our country for voting are based on the understanding that voters have regarding the process of elections. Those should be addressed by providing voters with information and transparency into the process rather than changing any part of the process.

 

[Rightguide]

No, really.



Let us hear no more about wasteful Dem spending, if Pubs are going to devote this level of attention to nonproblems.

Who could blame him?

 

[Comshaw]

That's the point. If you aren't a Floridian you have no dog in this fight.

I take it from your post quoted above, we will never again see ANY comment from you about Newsom, Inslee, California, the "woke" left coast, the politics of the "liberal" states or anything along those lines that is outside the state you live in? And if I see you do it, call you on it, you're gunna give it a "my bad, I shouldn't have said that!" Oh fuck yes, and a skunk can change his stripes too!


Comshaw

 

[Comshaw]

Whether there is a “proven problem” or the potential for problems exists, Floridians deserve to be confident their votes count. Any citizen who is qualified to vote in the state can do so.

I see. So you're comfortable passing laws on what is believed to be true rather than what is? So when the left is in power, and claims that almost all the mass shooting were done with AR15 Assault rifles and wants to ban every last one, you're fine with it whether it's true? Yeah, uh hu, right.

As far as, "Any citizen who is qualified to vote in the state can do so." That ain't so. When laws are passed to stop churches from doing mass transports to the polls for no real discernible reason, when ballot drop boxes are reduced for no real discernible reason, when volunteers are stopped from giving water to people in line to vote with claims of "electioneering at the polls", even though it's done with no reference to a party or candidate, when absentee ballots are made difficult to get with claims of "to easy to illegally vote" even though there has never been proof that is true, they may be eligible to vote, but with those kinds of road blocks it doesn't mean they can. So yeah, that statement is false.

Comshaw

 

[pecksniff]

Any citizen who is qualified to vote in the state can do so.

Not necessarily, as we saw in 2000. Jeb Bush's voter-roll purge covered a lot of perfectly legitimate voters, purged because they had the same name as a felon or something. If that had not been done, W would never have been president.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I see. So you're comfortable passing laws on what is believed to be true rather than what is? So when the left is in power, and claims that almost all the mass shooting were done with AR15 Assault rifles and wants to ban every last one, you're fine with it whether it's true? Yeah, uh hu, right.

As far as, "Any citizen who is qualified to vote in the state can do so." That ain't so. When laws are passed to stop churches from doing mass transports to the polls for no real discernible reason, when ballot drop boxes are reduced for no real discernible reason, when volunteers are stopped from giving water to people in line to vote with claims of "electioneering at the polls", even though it's done with no reference to a party or candidate, when absentee ballots are made difficult to get with claims of "to easy to illegally vote" even though there has never been proof that is true, they may be eligible to vote, but with those kinds of road blocks it doesn't mean they can. So yeah, that statement is false.

Comshaw

Yes. Fraud and irregularities happen in every election. That does not mean that it is widespread or that those things changed the outcome of recent presidential elections, but many elections, particularly at the local level, are often decided by a handful of votes. Reasonable laws that prevent fraud and improve voter confidence in election integrity are entirely appropriate. I’m sorry you’re incapable of mailing your ballot in. Maybe somebody can show you how.

 

[ll74]

Yes. Fraud and irregularities happen in every election. That does not mean that it is widespread or that those things changed the outcome of recent presidential elections, but many elections, particularly at the local level, are often decided by a handful of votes. Reasonable laws that prevent fraud and improve voter confidence in election integrity are entirely appropriate. I’m sorry you’re incapable of mailing your ballot in. Maybe somebody can show you how.

When people believe in lies, no amount of laws are reasonable to improve confidence.