Republicans are quite simply un-American

[My I]

The Dems kill a bill to give tuition ASSISTANCE to children of veterans who were killed in the line of duty, then turn around and APPROVE a bill to give FREE tuition to ILLEGAL FUCKING ALIENS.

Yeah. I can see where the Republicans are unAmerican.

Typical liberals, Dumber than a bag of cat shit and too fucking stupid to know it.

 

[gunthernehmen]

When a medical doctor tells someone, based on his experience, based on the facts he's observed and the things he learned before, that you need surgery, most people will follow his advice. But it's only his opinion.

And 98 % of the most published climate scientists are not just some people. Those are experts in their field.

So was Ilya Ivanov. Just saying...

 

[gunthernehmen]

Sure, if you can't deny the facts, detract with new nonsense.

You think 98% of the top-scientists at that time supported all of Ivanov's ideas?

What's the next deflection? Alternative medicines?

The point is you (and those "scientists") are spouting opinions as fact. They at least should know better.

Hardly anybody denies there is a problem. The DEBATE involves the cause and what if anything to do about it.

In my opinion (see how easy that is?) the cause is "probably" mostly natural with a dash of humanity thrown in and again in my opinion there isn't much we CAN do to stop it without potentially causing more harm than good.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Your opinion doesn't matter, as you have no clue about climate "research"; that's where things differ between your and climate "scientists"' opinions.

It's really easy to understand, I'm sure even you do, but I guess you have a different agenda.

And measured data is no opinion; those are hard facts.

How utterly convenient for you. I shouldn't have an opinion on why my car makes that rattling noise when I turn a corner hard, either. Dolt.

Measured data is great. Of course it helps if the "scientists" (you forgot to quote "scientist" so I did it for you above) actually know HOW to take measurements, take them consistently in ways and places that don't affect the readings and don't outright FAKE the measurements when they don't say what they're "supposed" to.

 

[dan_c00000]

How utterly convenient for you. I shouldn't have an opinion on why my car makes that rattling noise when I turn a corner hard, either. Dolt.

Sure you can have an opinion but if you take your car to 100 mechanics and 99 of them tell you what the problem is and you still don't believe them, well, you can't bitch about your "opinion" when your car breaks down.

You ought to come up with better analogies.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Sure you can have an opinion but if you take your car to 100 mechanics and 99 of them tell you what the problem is and you still don't believe them, well, you can't bitch about your "opinion" when your car breaks down.

You ought to come up with better analogies.

Nice. An actual response.

My observation was more along the lines of "I am entitled to have an opinion" just as you are. I don't need to be a mechanic to have an opinion on what's wrong with my car.

Those climate "scientists" are developing theories based on incomplete, faulty and sometimes deliberately altered data and then claiming the theories are settled science. That's just not how it works. You develop a theory, find a way prove prove or disprove it, others reproduce your results and THEN you have a substantiated theory that fits the known facts. You still don't have a fact though, just a theory that is substantiated.

Using poster boys like Gore (the ultimate consumer) and leveraging the "real" problems to make money probably don't help, either...

 

[gunthernehmen]

The quote marks were unnecessary. Don't you feel a little childish?

No. I was mocking them. Without the quotes it just doesn't work.

Google a little about the siting of measuring stations, the change in how temperature and so on are measured over time (historical vs current) and the cases where those scientists deliberately falsified data or findings.

While you're at it:

Gore and Blood, the former chief of Goldman Sachs Asset Management (GSAM), co-founded London-based GIM in 2004. Between 2008 and 2011 the company had raised profits of nearly $218 million from institutions and wealthy investors. By 2008 Gore was able to put $35 million into hedge funds and private partnerships through the Capricorn Investment Group, a Palo Alto company founded by his Canadian billionaire buddy Jeffrey Skoll, the first president of EBay Inc. It was Skoll’s Participant Media that produced Gore’s feverishly frightening 2006 horror film, "An Inconvenient Truth".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryb...king-a-killing-on-anti-carbon-investment-hype

Follow the money.

 

[phrodeau]

Nice. An actual response.

My observation was more along the lines of "I am entitled to have an opinion" just as you are. I don't need to be a mechanic to have an opinion on what's wrong with my car.

Those climate "scientists" are developing theories based on incomplete, faulty and sometimes deliberately altered data and then claiming the theories are settled science. That's just not how it works. You develop a theory, find a way prove prove or disprove it, others reproduce your results and THEN you have a substantiated theory that fits the known facts. You still don't have a fact though, just a theory that is substantiated.

Using poster boys like Gore (the ultimate consumer) and leveraging the "real" problems to make money probably don't help, either...

You sure don’t like Al Gore. Maybe he’s causing climate change all by hisself.

So I guess he’s a “scarologist” who is only “trying to make MONEY and POWER.” You must know of an occasion where Al Gore deliberately falsified data.

Well, I know someone who did deliberately falsify data to support their climate change argument. His name is Rex Tillerson. While he ran ExxonMobil, he was feeding false data to people like you, to make you think that climate change wasn’t a problem. And he got lots of MONEY and POWER doing it.

Can you name anyone else? I’ve got more.

 

[gunthernehmen]

And another deflection; you're predictable.

I'm not talking about Gore, I'm talking about climate change.

It's not a deflection. The "facts" (those damned mocking quotes again...) you are claiming are in fact opinions.

The people making those claims have skin in the game (that's the money angle) and so their opinions are worthless.

 

[gunthernehmen]

You sure don’t like Al Gore. Maybe he’s causing climate change all by hisself.

So I guess he’s a “scarologist” who is only “trying to make MONEY and POWER.” You must know of an occasion where Al Gore deliberately falsified data.

Well, I know someone who did deliberately falsify data to support their climate change argument. His name is Rex Tillerson. While he ran ExxonMobil, he was feeding false data to people like you, to make you think that climate change wasn’t a problem. And he got lots of MONEY and POWER doing it.

Can you name anyone else? I’ve got more.

I don't like Al Gore. I think I've not hidden that FACT. (disliking someone is not an opinion although it can be based on opinions).

I don't like frauds. I don't like corrupt politicians. Actually I guess that covers all politicians. Gore is all of those things. And he's willing to sell out the human race to his own profit.

What you, Rubin, Gore and the rest of the scarologists are doing is destroying your own platform. You're so focused on your own agenda that people don't even listen anymore.

Stipulated there is a problem. You can't fix it in the first place but even if you could nobody takes Gore and his ilk seriously anymore. He's a joke and so are the esteemed climate "scientists" you people are so proud of.

 

[phrodeau]

I don't like Al Gore. I think I've not hidden that FACT. (disliking someone is not an opinion although it can be based on opinions).

I don't like frauds. I don't like corrupt politicians. Actually I guess that covers all politicians. Gore is all of those things. And he's willing to sell out the human race to his own profit.

What you, Rubin, Gore and the rest of the scarologists are doing is destroying your own platform. You're so focused on your own agenda that people don't even listen anymore.

Stipulated there is a problem. You can't fix it in the first place but even if you could nobody takes Gore and his ilk seriously anymore. He's a joke and so are the esteemed climate "scientists" you people are so proud of.

Who are the scarologists gaining money and power from falsified evidence? I don’t know about Rubin or Gore, but it sure ain’t me.

 

[gunthernehmen]

I also don't know about Rubin or Gore, it ain't me either, but I do know you get more money by spreading industrially sponsored lies.

Public sector corruption is far more profitable.

 

[GuessImJamie]

Many years ago someone smarter than I suggested eliminating all legal restrictions on the amount of money anyone might give any politician for any reason. Simultaneous with that a draconian punishment would be imposed for non reporting of same...

And...

Politicians would be legally required to wear NASCAR type jackets and pants with the patches of their donors (sponsors) sewn on. The size of the patches being directly proportional to the amount of money given.

Free speech + open acknowledgement of favors owed.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Many years ago someone smarter than I suggested eliminating all legal restrictions on the amount of money anyone might give any politician for any reason. Simultaneous with that a draconian punishment would be imposed for non reporting of same...

And...

Politicians would be legally required to wear NASCAR type jackets and pants with the patches of their donors (sponsors) sewn on. The size of the patches being directly proportional to the amount of money given.

Free speech + open acknowledgement of favors owed.

Sounds fair. Although some pols might need to gain quite a lot of weight to fit into their jackets...

 

[dan_c00000]

I don't need to be a mechanic to have an opinion on what's wrong with my car.

Right and when 99 out of 100 mechanics tell you X is wrong with your car and you still don't believe and then your car blows up your opinion was wrong.

Same applies to global warming. Except in this case your car is blowing up and melting down at the same time.

Don't bitch to me when you're house is underwater because in my opinion your home isn't flooded.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Right and when 99 out of 100 mechanics tell you X is wrong with your car and you still don't believe and then your car blows up your opinion was wrong.

Same applies to global warming. Except in this case your car is blowing up and melting down at the same time.

Don't bitch to me when you're house is underwater because in my opinion your home isn't flooded.

You just said the same thing over again, more or less...

I'm looking forward to the sea rising. Boston will be gone and I'll have ocean view property.

 

[phrodeau]

You just said the same thing over again, more or less...

I'm looking forward to the sea rising. Boston will be gone and I'll have ocean view property.

Did you find any other scarologists yet?

 

[gunthernehmen]

Did you find any other scarologists yet?

Take your pick, but do it fast. We've only got 12 years left. Less a few months, actually.

Hah. I just cracked AOC's code. The world ends in 12 years. That's 4 years for Trump's second term, 8 years for Pence's terms, then the tide shifts and a Democrat will be elected. And then the world ends.

You see? I just scared you because you know there's a real good chance it'll play out that way. I guess I'm a scarologist too!

 

[phrodeau]

You have no argument supporting your position, or any evidence for your claims.

You’re more of a scatologist, that is, full of shit.

 

[dan_c00000]

You just said the same thing over again, more or less...

Because I have to explain it on a level so simple a racist child like you can understand it.

Also, I'm glad you're rooting for the murder of several hundred thousands of your own citizens. Very patriotic of you. Probably explains why you and your alts love it when Trump goes out and murders children.

 

[Dumpington]

dan_c00000 writes: "Probably explains why you and your alts love it when Trump goes out and murders children."

You know, Dan, back when Adolf Hitler ran Nazi Germany, there were NO JEWS trying to sneak into that country - not a one!

http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2014/01/ebensee-survivors.jpg - (Surviving inmates at the Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland, 1945)

And there is NO RECORD of inmates at Auschwitz ever complaining about living conditions or over-crowding. In fact, they were being regularly slaughtered by the millions by anti-Semitic National-Socialists who hated America and everything that this country represents.

When you use phrases like "murders children" to describe modern American political figures, you're making it sound like Hitler wasn't really such a bad guy. You really need to study-up more on Nazi atrocities! And it's not just YOU, Dan! Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) doesn't seem to get it, either!

 

[icanhelp1]

Because I have to explain it on a level so simple a racist child like you can understand it.

Also, I'm glad you're rooting for the murder of several hundred thousands of your own citizens. Very patriotic of you. Probably explains why you and your alts love it when Trump goes out and murders children.

Do you have any videos, anything substantial or any evidence that shows Trump going out and murdering children. We lost Dawn because of you. You convinced her that you're so fucking stupid she won't grace us with her presence anymore. She thinks you're a waste of time and effort. I know you consider that a win because that's how fucking stupid you are.

 

[dan_c00000]

Adolf Hitler ran Nazi Germany

What does this have to do with abortion? Seems to me you just wanted to mention your personal hero again.

We lost Dawn because of you.

I hope you find "her" again. Why not check one of dump's alts? Or wherever the racists hang out.

Seriously, how did you lose "her"? Did "she" quit or something? I mean I could point to literally hundreds of posts where "she" was proven to not only be wrong but in "her" wrongness revealed as a racist, anti-Semite.

Hell, here's a post I did like two minutes ago destroying the dump version of "her" alt. I triggered dump so badly he became a sputtering mess, got completely owned, and tried to change the topic to Megan Rapinoe. That's dawn's level of intelligence right there. Be horrible wrong and misogynistic in one post, get proven wrong and hateful, and then change the topic. If you want more examples of dawn getting utterly owned feel free to browse my posting history. You might even learn something.

 

[icanhelp1]

What does this have to do with abortion? Seems to me you just wanted to mention your personal hero again.



I hope you find "her" again. Why not check one of dump's alts? Or wherever the racists hang out.

Seriously, how did you lose "her"? Did "she" quit or something? I mean I could point to literally hundreds of posts where "she" was proven to not only be wrong but in "her" wrongness revealed as a racist, anti-Semite.

Hell, here's a post I did like two minutes ago destroying the dump version of "her" alt. I triggered dump so badly he became a sputtering mess, got completely owned, and tried to change the topic to Megan Rapinoe. That's dawn's level of intelligence right there. Be horrible wrong and misogynistic in one post, get proven wrong and hateful, and then change the topic. If you want more examples of dawn getting utterly owned feel free to browse my posting history. You might even learn something.

You are really really stupid and delusional. You couldn't prove her wrong on your best day. She was so far above your head it was funny watching her destroy you. She always had real facts while you played with a deck of jokers.

 

[gunthernehmen]

You have no argument supporting your position, or any evidence for your claims.

You’re more of a scatologist, that is, full of shit.

And you have yet to provide so much as a shred of proof on your claims. So I guess we're both full of shit.