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The Evolution of Kink - Paul's Story

The Evolution of Kink - Paul's Story

So, I was thinking about this question and wanted to respond, but life intervened and I never had the chance to follow through with my thoughts. Better late than never!

I divided the evolution of my kink into different era's.

The Pre-Awakening Era: From the start of my sexual activity into my early twenties I only had a peripheral awareness of kink. Though I had some great sex, it lacked any of the elements of kink, other than a preference for more primal, hard-fucking, sex. In hindsight I can see the "seeds of kink" were present - I enjoyed man-handling lovers, physically directing them, and pinning them down by the wrists, but it wasn't the focal poiint of the sex. The focal point was just the sex. Everything else was a means to an end, with the end being fucking.

The Awakening Era: This was in my mid-twenties, when I was introduced to BDSM and more kinky sex by a set of lovers. Now, I think in this era it wasn't so much that I learned kink, I think that kink was always there, but it was the awakening of it and the expression of it - bondage, dominance, swinging, rough sex, pretty much the whole spectrum.

The Flowering Era: This ran from from late twenties through my early/mid forties. It encompassed a pretty wide variety of experiences in the realm of kink, combined with a deliberate seeking out of kinky/BDSM/unusual sexual encounters and relationships. It was during this period that I spent a lot of time in the BDSM community, either here or abroad, living for a significant period in a D/s relationship and being an active participant in the larger social environment that surrounds BDSM.

The Golden Era: By the time I hit my late forties, I could say with confidence that anything I had wanted to try, I had tried. Here is where my focused shifted out of the BDSM community. (I loved the community, so don't get me wrong, but this was also where my general bullshit tolerance level fell to zero, LOL. There is, unfortunately, a lot of BS in the BDSM communities - a lot of damaged people, a lot of predatory behavior, and a lot of unnecessary drama.) Now, I tend to seek out individual relationships, with the emphasis on the whole person of the relationship, where sex plays a crucial part, but is not the most important part, or even the significant part. Fortunately, within my general age range, there are a lot of people who have came to the same conclusion - lets have the good and kinky sex, without the bullshit. I consider this the golden era because I'm happy, I'm healthy, and in relationships - either long term or short term, there is a level of openness and honesty that is very satisfying.

Now, there was a lot of overlap in the era's. They weren't clean and crisp. They are just general. There was a some serious kinkery in different eras, and relationships that involved minimal kink or soft kink at various times. There were bits of wisdom that popped up early and bits of stupidity on my part that manifested late. I'm sure I am going to find previously un-encountered layers of kink as my journey continues. We always change. We always evolve. There is no perfection. There is no mountain top. There is no destination. There is only the journey from cradle to grave, filled with ten thousand changing things. Enjoy the journey.
 
I loved your post Paul, didn't quote due to length, but I love your break down. I can say that some of it resonates with my own experiences. It's always nice to see that people can live a good life and enjoy the pleasures of life. I'm sure you had your tribulations as well but it seems like you had a good go of it.
 
I loved your post Paul, didn't quote due to length, but I love your break down. I can say that some of it resonates with my own experiences. It's always nice to see that people can live a good life and enjoy the pleasures of life. I'm sure you had your tribulations as well but it seems like you had a good go of it.

HES NOT DEAD YET!

😂😂😂
 
LOL - too funny. As an aside, I remember when I was in my twenties, I thought people just got old and stopped having sex. The slow dawning realization as I got older was that many of the older people I knew as a young man were probably freaks in the sheets. Hahaha - it was entertaining and slightly traumatic.
 
LOL - too funny. As an aside, I remember when I was in my twenties, I thought people just got old and stopped having sex. The slow dawning realization as I got older was that many of the older people I knew as a young man were probably freaks in the sheets. Hahaha - it was entertaining and slightly traumatic.

The older I get the more sexual I get, and the more comfortable with my sexuality I become.

My hard limits haven’t really changed. I don’t want anything but one on one. I love the intensity of one on one, and I think another person takes away from our dynamic.
I still hate being tickled.

My soft limits are flexible. I don’t want to get into it, now, but, yes.
 
I've loved that realization. I have a bit of a taste for older lovers. I think only two of my partners have been younger. The oldest one was 10 years older than me when I was 18 lol
 
Catching up!

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Kink Evolution (submitted)

How has your perception of kink / bdsm changed since you got involved in it? Do people in your life know you have a kinky streak? Do you think people in other forums think the BDSM forum is weird, scary?

My perception of kink - though still relatively new - has settled so much! It's less about the taboo of the kink and more about the psychology of the person that has that kink.

My SO knows about some of my kink but no one else really. It's not really a matter of shame or embarrassment. It just doesn't come up in conversations that often!

As far as other forums v. bdsm - I don't get the impression that anyone thinks it's weird and scary (maybe they do? I don't talk to those people). I do and did get the impression that it's a much tougher crowd here... less welcoming. Which is less true than I thought but still a much harder crowd to please. I actually think I hear more worry about the PG from the strictly bdsm folks - which I kind of understand but also find funny.
 
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Limit Evolution

How have your limits changed since you got involved in bdsm? Do you have hard limits that have changed over time? Things you've added to your hard limit list?

I don't think my hard limits have changed. Maybe some of the more bizarre stuff has been added to the list (but I doubt being asked to snort someone's cum would actually come up in real life... right?).

My soft limits have certainly grown. And I'm echoing most people here when they say it's partner specific. Some people just make you want to do things for them... :cool:

I've definitely had to get better at explaining my reasons for some of my hard limits. Keep your feet to yourself and I'll keep my feet to myself. Thanks! ;) :D
 
I don't think my hard limits have changed. Maybe some of the more bizarre stuff has been added to the list (but I doubt being asked to snort someone's cum would actually come up in real life... right?).

My soft limits have certainly grown. And I'm echoing most people here when they say it's partner specific. Some people just make you want to do things for them... :cool:

I've definitely had to get better at explaining my reasons for some of my hard limits. Keep your feet to yourself and I'll keep my feet to myself. Thanks! ;) :D

I’ve never known anyone to snort cum. I have known people who reveled in cum, lol, but never seen it snorted like a line.
 
I don't think my hard limits have changed. Maybe some of the more bizarre stuff has been added to the list (but I doubt being asked to snort someone's cum would actually come up in real life... right?).

My soft limits have certainly grown. And I'm echoing most people here when they say it's partner specific. Some people just make you want to do things for them... :cool:

I've definitely had to get better at explaining my reasons for some of my hard limits. Keep your feet to yourself and I'll keep my feet to myself. Thanks! ;) :D

Snort cum.....that just seems painful and not in a good way.........

Of course like Paul said I've know some that simply love cum. And I just remembered something and I lost my train of thought........
 
Many years ago, in my university days, I snorted vodka and nearly died. How on earth could someone snort cum?
 
My perception of kink - though still relatively new - has settled so much! It's less about the taboo of the kink and more about the psychology of the person that has that kink.

My SO knows about some of my kink but no one else really. It's not really a matter of shame or embarrassment. It just doesn't come up in conversations that often!

As far as other forums v. bdsm - I don't get the impression that anyone thinks it's weird and scary (maybe they do? I don't talk to those people). I do and did get the impression that it's a much tougher crowd here... less welcoming. Which is less true than I thought but still a much harder crowd to please. I actually think I hear more worry about the PG from the strictly bdsm folks - which I kind of understand but also find funny.

That's been my thoughts, too... so I just stuck around on the PG for the most part.
 
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Limit Evolution

How have your limits changed since you got involved in bdsm? Do you have hard limits that have changed over time? Things you've added to your hard limit list?

I wouldn't say they've changed, exactly. There are some I've added to both hard limits and soft limits after learning more about all the different kinds/names for kink.
 
My perception of kink - though still relatively new - has settled so much! It's less about the taboo of the kink and more about the psychology of the person that has that kink.

My SO knows about some of my kink but no one else really. It's not really a matter of shame or embarrassment. It just doesn't come up in conversations that often!

As far as other forums v. bdsm - I don't get the impression that anyone thinks it's weird and scary (maybe they do? I don't talk to those people). I do and did get the impression that it's a much tougher crowd here... less welcoming. Which is less true than I thought but still a much harder crowd to please. I actually think I hear more worry about the PG from the strictly bdsm folks - which I kind of understand but also find funny.

That's been my thoughts, too... so I just stuck around on the PG for the most part.

This surprises me. This forum is so small - maybe because of that it feels cliquey?How is this a tough crowd to please? Too snarky? Judgey? :( I feel this way about the PG - it's so big, it's intimidating. Oddly, when I first started Lit, I hung out at the GB. Now, I just don't want to wander that way at all!
 
It is partly because it's small. Partly because most of you are knowledgeable. And there are just WAY less threads to participate in.
 
This surprises me. This forum is so small - maybe because of that it feels cliquey?How is this a tough crowd to please? Too snarky? Judgey? :( I feel this way about the PG - it's so big, it's intimidating. Oddly, when I first started Lit, I hung out at the GB. Now, I just don't want to wander that way at all!

When I first came to Lit, it was to talk, meet people, etc. It just didn't feel welcoming here at that time. It could be me. I hate starting a conversation, I'm shy. I do much better at "flirt and flit". :eek:
 
When I first came to Lit, it was to talk, meet people, etc. It just didn't feel welcoming here at that time. It could be me. I hate starting a conversation, I'm shy. I do much better at "flirt and flit". :eek:

I hate starting a conversation too and I'm shy. I lurked for a really long time before creating an account and starting to post.

But I even worse at "flirt and flit". That's why the PG terrifies me. People are so flirty and chummy there, I don't think I'd be able to keep up and fit in.
 
I hate starting a conversation too and I'm shy. I lurked for a really long time before creating an account and starting to post.

But I even worse at "flirt and flit". That's why the PG terrifies me. People are so flirty and chummy there, I don't think I'd be able to keep up and fit in.

There's where the 'flit' comes in handy. There's so much going on, no one notices that you've suddenly taken off. :) But, there's much more there... word games to keep your mind busy and I found the first edition of Daddy's Little Girl there. It felt comfortable.
 
BDSM Cliques

I was just sitting here thinking about cliques in general, both online and IRL. Personally, I am not fond of them, but they are a sort of natural social organization of human beings. Groups formed around a shared interest or environment that use social tools to create an in group for purposes of social power/prestige. Sometimes that formation is intentional - a small group of people use social tools to deliberately exclude non-members. Sometimes it is unintentional - based on those shared interests a group forms and once formed, rarely allows outsiders to join (no social mobility).

Rather than delve into whether or not the BDSM section of the board has cliques or is itself a large clique, I thought I would simply share some clique breaking tools, useful on both the internet and IRL.

A clique sets social boundaries - to break them, if you are an insider who wishes to change the group behavior, engage with outsiders and new people and invite them into the conversation - deliberately ask them questions (open questions) or comment positively on their group contributions, or respond openly to their questions.

A clique often uses "lack of subject matter knowledge" as a social boundary. So, to counter this tendency, readily share your information, your information sources, with outsiders and newcomers. Take on, as one of your roles, that of mentor or educator.

A clique often uses "negative gossip" to reinforce the boundaries and exclude outsiders. Don't engage in negative gossip - don't repeat it, don't reward it. Encourage and actively participate in "positive gossip" to embrace the outsider and newcomer.

If you're the outsider trying to enter a closed group - be patient, be persistent but polite. Sit with the cool kids even if you are not invited, respond to attempts to cast you out with loving kindness and patience and made repeated, positive, contributions to the group.

In online forums one of the things that folks in the commercial business of creating communities will tell you is that you must engage with the members of the community you've created - acknowledge their contributions, respond to their questions, and treat both negative and positive content (comments) with the same level of equanimity.
 
^^^THIS^^^

This is good stuff. We had a similar discussion around these parts three or four years ago. Maybe it’s a good thing to bring up seriously again.

Thanks for sharing your insights.
 
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