LeBron James opts out of final yr on hs contract, $21.5 million per yr, not enough

[4est_4est_Gump]

Although he is an idiot, I don't think you know what science is. You cannot experiment this, you cannot replicate this. There are an infinite number of variables that go into how one player works with others.

I happen to agree that the results speak for themselves, but it isn't provable by "science."

Science is nothing more than fiction mirroring your personal position.

It is a feeling-based discipline that finds truth through consensus and uses computers to rework facts into models which can only best be described as fictionary...

 

[kbate]

Science is nothing more than fiction mirroring your personal position.

It is a feeling-based discipline that finds truth through consensus and uses computers to rework facts into models which can only best be described as fictionary...

dinosaurs were made extinct by overhunting after the great flood.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I Kunt hear a word you are saying...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I Kant understand you.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Although he is an idiot, I don't think you know what science is. You cannot experiment this, you cannot replicate this. There are an infinite number of variables that go into how one player works with others.

I happen to agree that the results speak for themselves, but it isn't provable by "science."

You can't replicate a day, and there are an infinite number of variables that go into what the weather is, but meteorology is a science.

Games are experiments. The location, time of year, and people he played with are all variables. When you take all of those you have data, you can then look at the data and make conclusions.

 

[Beco]

Science is nothing more than fiction mirroring your personal position.

It is a feeling-based discipline that finds truth through consensus and uses computers to rework facts into models which can only best be described as fictionary...

Wow....anti science

You guys suck

 

[toubab]

If the Cavs win the championship next year, which I think they will if they stay healthy, then these voices saying James and Love can't play will pipe down.

 

[Conager]

You can't replicate a day, and there are an infinite number of variables that go into what the weather is, but meteorology is a science.

Games are experiments. The location, time of year, and people he played with are all variables. When you take all of those you have data, you can then look at the data and make conclusions.

Looking at data points and jumping to conclusions is not science. Science would be forming a hypothesis, controlling for variables (which you cannot possibly do here) and then confirming or refuting your hypothesis by the results of running your experiment.


Go to the Good Reads thread, Colonel Hogan posted a New York Times article. Do the problem on that page then report back. Just because data points you notice do not refute your hypothesis, does not mean that your hypothesis is confirmed. By science.

There is science behind aspects of meteorology. Meterology is SWAG. IF it were science they would at least know whether it is going to rain or not with more consistency then a child looking at dark clouds.

 

[Beco]

If the Cavs win the championship next year, which I think they will if they stay healthy, then these voices saying James and Love can't play will pipe down.

I think they have already piped down....they were cranking towards the end of the season and he just resigned....what's that tell you?

 

[Beco]

You can't replicate a day, and there are an infinite number of variables that go into what the weather is, but meteorology is a science.

Games are experiments. The location, time of year, and people he played with are all variables. When you take all of those you have data, you can then look at the data and make conclusions.

Thats right. Meteorology uses tons of equipment to forecast the weather, and it cannot do it with any degree of accuracy. Its only a forecast.

They did tons of computer modeling of the Finals. Even with Kevin Love healthy and Irving, etc. Each time, they had Golden State winning.....to me thats science

 

[toubab]

I think they have already piped down....they were cranking towards the end of the season and he just resigned....what's that tell you?

Who resigned?

 

[toubab]

Thats right. Meteorology uses tons of equipment to forecast the weather, and it cannot do it with any degree of accuracy. Its only a forecast.

They did tons of computer modeling of the Finals. Even with Kevin Love healthy and Irving, etc. Each time, they had Golden State winning.....to me thats science

If Love and Irving had stayed healthy the Cavs would have won easily. Might have swept the Finals.

 

[Beco]

If Love and Irving had stayed healthy the Cavs would have won easily. Might have swept the Finals.

Not according to this computer model.

 

[Beco]

Who resigned?

Love resigns with cavs

 

[toubab]

Not according to this computer model.

We've seen how great computer models are at predicting the weather and global warming.

 

[toubab]

Love resigns with cavs

Ridiculous, whatever it is.

 

[Beco]

We've seen how great computer models are at predicting the weather and global warming.

Well, it was correct this time....

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Thats right. Meteorology uses tons of equipment to forecast the weather, and it cannot do it with any degree of accuracy. Its only a forecast.

They did tons of computer modeling of the Finals. Even with Kevin Love healthy and Irving, etc. Each time, they had Golden State winning.....to me thats science

C'mon...in that scenario the computer had a 50/50 chance of being right.

I agree with your assessment of meteorology, but we're not making a forecast. If Lebron left basketball today to take his talents to the mens' Olympic Table tennis team, he'd still be one of the best basketball players ever.

 

[toubab]

Well, it was correct this time....

Garbage in, garbage out. The Warriors barely beat the Cavs without Love and Irving. No way they would have won if both were healthy.

 

[tweety1972]

He's not leaving Cleveland. He just opted out to make more money. No different than what any other business man would do.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Looking at data points and jumping to conclusions is not science. Science would be forming a hypothesis, controlling for variables (which you cannot possibly do here) and then confirming or refuting your hypothesis by the results of running your experiment.


Go to the Good Reads thread, Colonel Hogan posted a New York Times article. Do the problem on that page then report back. Just because data points you notice do not refute your hypothesis, does not mean that your hypothesis is confirmed. By science.

There is science behind aspects of meteorology. Meterology is SWAG. IF it were science they would at least know whether it is going to rain or not with more consistency then a child looking at dark clouds.

Well yeah, THAT'S not science. Sounds like you have a personal beef with meteorology.

 

[Busybody]

He's not leaving Cleveland. He just opted out to make more money. No different than what any other business man would do.

but business people TAKE risks

LB James is a greedy bastard

 

[Conager]

Well yeah, THAT'S not science. Sounds like you have a personal beef with meteorology.

You gave that as a specific example of science. You really don't have any idea what science is do you?

Basketball statistics are not science. Taking measurements such as what the temperature or humidity or any other thing is is something that a scientist might do in the pursuit of science. Reporting what happened in the weather is not science. Reporting basketball scores is not science.

Having an opinion whether or not it is a reasonable opinion or not whether or not it is held by most reasonable people does not become a better opinion because you add the word science after it. That's not just my opinion, that science.

Sounds like you have a personal beef with anyone disagreeing with you about anything. I happen to agree with you about LeBron James I just disagree with you that it is science. Because science can't prove such a thing. Any more than science can prove that a particular painter is a good painter or the best painter.

Data points are meaningless without a testable hypothesis. Even if you have a testable hypothesis and the data points seem to confirm it it still doesn't prove what you seem to think it does.

Logic does not seem to be your strong suit.

 

[rippitydoo]

C'mon...in that scenario the computer had a 50/50 chance of being right.

I agree with your assessment of meteorology, but we're not making a forecast. If Lebron left basketball today to take his talents to the mens' Olympic Table tennis team, he'd still be one of the best basketball players ever.

If he left to go to another sport today, all that would change would be it'd make him a former NBA player instead of a current one... He can't "still" be something he isn't now.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You gave that as a specific example of science. You really don't have any idea what science is do you?

Basketball statistics are not science. Taking measurements such as what the temperature or humidity or any other thing is is something that a scientist might do in the pursuit of science. Reporting what happened in the weather is not science. Reporting basketball scores is not science.

Having an opinion whether or not it is a reasonable opinion or not whether or not it is held by most reasonable people does not become a better opinion because you add the word science after it. That's not just my opinion, that science.

Sounds like you have a personal beef with anyone disagreeing with you about anything. I happen to agree with you about LeBron James I just disagree with you that it is science. Because science can't prove such a thing. Any more than science can prove that a particular painter is a good painter or the best painter.

Data points are meaningless without a testable hypothesis. Even if you have a testable hypothesis and the data points seem to confirm it it still doesn't prove what you seem to think it does.

Logic does not seem to be your strong suit.

Dude, I don't know you.

You've missed huge chunks of the conversation and want to take it out on me and are making assumptions based on not reading the entire thread.

That only 3 players in the history of the NBA have averaged more ppg in the regular season over their careers than Lebron isn't an opinion.