It's Like You're Doing It Just To Do It, Just To Get It Over With

[toubab]

@Toubab, what happened to Nova?

I already explained what happened to them, smoove. They played a sixteen and won by 41. I said that was a bad thing, at the time. I've seen it happen a thousand times if I've seen it once. Next game they came in less than sharp, to put it mildly. The law of averages caught up to them. They must have missed ten bunnies right under the basket. Couldn't shoot the ball to save their lives. Still had the chance to win it at the end, but kept missing wide open shots. Fucked up my bracket bad.

I don't know if you saw, but I would have fifteen out of sixteen teams alive still if Villanova was still alive. Here you go, from yesterday:


http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-brac...ketball-men/d1

"I should have posted my picks on here before the start of the tournament. I was just looking at them again, and if Villanova was still alive I'd look almost clairvoyent. On second thought, I guess a lot of people could say that.

Seriously, the only two of the surviving sixteen I didn't like were North Carolina State and UCLA. My picks for those spots were Villanova and Iowa State. I had Villanova going to the final four, and making it to the championship game. Fuckers.

My picks for the next eight games are now Kentucky, Wichita State, Wisconsin, Arizona, Louisville, Michigan State, Duke, and Gonzaga. It's probably time for me to lose a bunch of them.

I now have Kentucky, Wisconsin, Louisville, and Duke going to the final four, with upset picks Wisconsin and Louisville in the final game, and Wisconsin winning it all."


I just plugged in Louisville for Villanova, and since I originally had Villanova going to the final game, I've left it that way. I really don't like Louisville all that much. Probably should switch to Duke making it to the championship game. But I'm rooting for Wisconsin all the way. Just like the way they play the game.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Sorry to jump in late, but of all the things on your mind I don't think you should minimize the fact that a significant one of those mind fucks is that if you're saying "never her" to yourself and NOT sharing the FINALITY of that information with her, then you know you're compromising your own integrity, and you can't help but not feel good about that.

If you think there is even a remote chance that she's hoping for a degree of intimacy you are not willing to give, then you KNOW there is at least a wee bit of a scam you're working.

Living even the littlest bit of a lie builds pressure you don't want or need. The only way to relieve the pressure of hiding something is to not hide it anymore. That usually means having a conversation you'd rather not have and admitting things you'd rather not admit.

Sucks, but there it is.

I understand you, Hogan. But I'm not like that. I don't sell dreams and I don't lead people on. I don't do to others what I wouldn't want done to me. I don't play with no one heart, because I wouldn't want minds played with. I'm pretty sure she knows the deal, even if she doesn't want to accept it or not. She never mentioned a relationship to me, so imma take it as she is OK with what is going on. I was just putting it out there, that I can't ever see myself committing to her. I can tell by your post that you are a wise man. Thanks for taking the time to elaborate. I appreciate it.

 

[smoothg103rd]

I already explained what happened to them, smoove. They played a sixteen and won by 41. I said that was a bad thing, at the time. I've seen it happen a thousand times if I've seen it once. Next game they came in less than sharp, to put it mildly. The law of averages caught up to them. They must have missed ten bunnies right under the basket. Couldn't shoot the ball to save their lives. Still had the chance to win it at the end, but kept missing wide open shots. Fucked up my bracket bad.

I don't know if you saw, but I would have fifteen out of sixteen teams alive still if Villanova was still alive. Here you go, from yesterday:


http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-brac...ketball-men/d1

"I should have posted my picks on here before the start of the tournament. I was just looking at them again, and if Villanova was still alive I'd look almost clairvoyent. On second thought, I guess a lot of people could say that.

Seriously, the only two of the surviving sixteen I didn't like were North Carolina State and UCLA. My picks for those spots were Villanova and Iowa State. I had Villanova going to the final four, and making it to the championship game. Fuckers.

My picks for the next eight games are now Kentucky, Wichita State, Wisconsin, Arizona, Louisville, Michigan State, Duke, and Gonzaga. It's probably time for me to lose a bunch of them.

I now have Kentucky, Wisconsin, Louisville, and Duke going to the final four, with upset picks Wisconsin and Louisville in the final game, and Wisconsin winning it all."


I just plugged in Louisville for Villanova, and since I originally had Villanova going to the final game, I've left it that way. I really don't like Louisville all that much. Probably should switch to Duke making it to the championship game. But I'm rooting for Wisconsin all the way. Just like the way they play the game.

I didn't watch the Nove game. But Wisconsin didn't play their best against Oregon. I just hope it doesn't become a habit.

 

[Que]

I understand you, Hogan. But I'm not like that. I don't sell dreams and I don't lead people on. I don't do to others what I wouldn't want done to me. I don't play with no one heart, because I wouldn't want minds played with. I'm pretty sure she knows the deal, even if she doesn't want to accept it or not. She never mentioned a relationship to me, so imma take it as she is OK with what is going on. I was just putting it out there, that I can't ever see myself committing to her. I can tell by your post that you are a wise man. Thanks for taking the time to elaborate. I appreciate it.

Not having a conversation about something, what people call "the elephant in the room" is a form of communication but it is a poor one.

I agree that she understands what her role is, but I think it is clear that she doesn't like or accept that. She is going along with it, but that is not the same as being "OK with it.

There is a book, aimed more at women, called "The Ethical Slut." I haven't actually read it but it gets quoted so much I feel like I have. My vague understanding is it was designed to help women navigate the treacherous shoals of FWB sort of relationships.

I think your intent is there, I think you try to be ethical about not making statements that lead women on, but it isn't quite the same as having an actual affirmative conversation about what is what.

Not saying I would jump in and have one now at this point with this girl. Just saying remember this and try to be more explicit, and less implied next time out.

 

[toubab]

I didn't watch the Nove game. But Wisconsin didn't play their best against Oregon. I just hope it doesn't become a habit.

I some time ago said it's a mixed blessing to be a one seed. They all play a sixteen seed in the first game, and they all win that first game. Always. Without exception. But it almost always makes them get sloppy and overconfident. And sometimes that's fatal. As it was with Villanova, when they played a much tougher opponent only two days later.

I hope Wisconsin will get their shit together again. They'll need it.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Not having a conversation about something, what people call "the elephant in the room" is a form of communication but it is a poor one.

I agree that she understands what her role is, but I think it is clear that she doesn't like or accept that. She is going along with it, but that is not the same as being "OK with it.

There is a book, aimed more at women, called "The Ethical Slut." I haven't actually read it but it gets quoted so much I feel like I have. My vague understanding is it was designed to help women navigate the treacherous shoals of FWB sort of relationships.

I think your intent is there, I think you try to be ethical about not making statements that lead women on, but it isn't quite the same as having an actual affirmative conversation about what is what.

Not saying I would jump in and have one now at this point with this girl. Just saying remember this and try to be more explicit, and less implied next time out.

To be honest, before I started back posting here I was a cold hearted little fucker. I look at my self now and think that I got soft. I just wanted badly not to be that person anymore, it's the main reason I was here frequently. In a weird way, this place has helped me to grow. I guess it was the fact that I converse with people that are the total opposite of me. Most of the women that I'm fucking now come from my cold hearted days. A couple of new ones here and there, but the majority of them are from when I was the man. And at the point of my life I didn't care. I said what I wanted and I was disrespectful. I'll just come out and say " Are you sucking this dick or what?" And it worked. I'll tell them that you knew what you sign up for, and that we're just fucking. The only girl in my eyes that ever opened me up was Shay. I see how other men acted when they open up and I realized that she haven't came close to cracking this safe. I'm more mature now and isn't as cold hearted so I am capable of being in a relationship, I still got work to do but the commitment is there. The girl who we are talking about comes from my older days, so she knows who I am. I don't know if she thinks I'm more vulnerable now and it's time for her to make her move, but I can't see a relationship happening. The fuck up part is I think they liked me more when I was cold hearted.

 

[smoothg103rd]

I some time ago said it's a mixed blessing to be a one seed. They all play a sixteen seed in the first game, and they all win that first game. Always. Without exception. But it almost always makes them get sloppy and overconfident. And sometimes that's fatal. As it was with Villanova, when they played a much tougher opponent only two days later.

I hope Wisconsin will get their shit together again. They'll need it.

I think Wisconsin will get it together. They are a great team. Hopefully that Oregon game was a wake up call.

 

[toubab]

To be honest, before I started back posting here I was a cold hearted little fucker. I look at my self now and think that I got soft. I just wanted badly not to be that person anymore, it's the main reason I was here frequently. In a weird way, this place has helped me to grow. I guess it was the fact that I converse with people that are the total opposite of me. Most of the women that I'm fucking now come from my cold hearted days. A couple of new ones here and there, but the majority of them are from when I was the man. And at the point of my life I didn't care. I said what I wanted and I was disrespectful. I'll just come out and say " Are you sucking this dick or what?" And it worked. I'll tell them that you knew what you sign up for, and that we're just fucking. The only girl in my eyes that ever opened me up was Shay. I see how other men acted when they open up and I realized that she haven't came close to cracking this safe. I'm more mature now and isn't as cold hearted so I am capable of being in a relationship, I still got work to do but the commitment is there. The girl who we are talking about comes from my older days, so she knows who I am. I don't know if she thinks I'm more vulnerable now and it's time for her to make her move, but I can't see a relationship happening. The fuck up part is I think they liked me more when I was cold hearted.

Okay, I can't resist making another comment, even though I probably shouldn't. One thing I've learned about women is if you treat them too well they lose respect for you. I know they'll deny it, but I swear it's true. There are exceptions, I'm sure, but they are few and far between, from my experience and from what I've observed over the course of my life. When I was young I treated women terribly, and they were all over me. I've seen it happen that way with other men and their women as well. Women like bad boys.

 

[toubab]

I think Wisconsin will get it together. They are a great team. Hopefully that Oregon game was a wake up call.

It should have been a wake up call. They almost lost that game.

 

[pollynova]

Okay, I can't resist making another comment, even though I probably shouldn't. One thing I've learned about women is if you treat them too well they lose respect for you. I know they'll deny it, but I swear it's true. There are exceptions, I'm sure, but they are few and far between, from my experience and from what I've observed over the course of my life. When I was young I treated women terribly, and they were all over me. I've seen it happen that way with other men and their women as well. Women like bad boys.

Some girls like bad boys. Some get involved with them for the excitement and because they think they can change them. But they are disappointed when they excitement ends or they can't change them.

I think it's the other way around too. Some guys like bad girls and the same thing happens.

 

[Saucyminx]

Okay, I can't resist making another comment, even though I probably shouldn't. One thing I've learned about women is if you treat them too well they lose respect for you. I know they'll deny it, but I swear it's true. There are exceptions, I'm sure, but they are few and far between, from my experience and from what I've observed over the course of my life. When I was young I treated women terribly, and they were all over me. I've seen it happen that way with other men and their women as well. Women like bad boys.

Some women like bad boys, but they don't like assholes. (I'm not talking about you Smooth--this is a response to toubab's general statement.) You can treat someone well without handing over all your power to them--I think that is where respect comes into play. Some of the sweetest men I know are involved with total bitches, and I've never understood that. On the flip side, my best friend does everything for her man, and he barely notices she's around unless his dinner isn't ready when he decides to show up. She has put him completely in charge, probably without his consent, and he takes it for granted and most likely resents her making him the responsible one--and I think that is where a lot relationships go off the rails.

If the lady Smooth is involved with knows the rules, and is trying to change them, then that is on her, and she is going to get her feelings hurt. It doesn't sound like he's leading her on.

And Smooth--there is no shame in saying, "I have a lot on my mind, and no I don't really want to talk about it." I was married to crazy jealous for 20 years. It sucks hard. I think you are smart not to take it any further than you have although you have already broken the cardinal rule I've given my son and his friends.


Emerson, damn it, now I feel like making buttermilk biscuits.

 

[zipman]

It's not the pills. The pills I take do delay a orgasm, but she knows that. I'm 22, I'm kinda in shape, I'll fuck until I get mines. Today just wasn't meant.

Dude, if you are having problems at 22 it ain't good.

Maybe early onset of Erectile Dysfunction.

Maybe you really want guys instead of chicks.

But it ain't good, brah. Now you're going to start worrying about it every time you try and fuck. Not good at all.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Some women like bad boys, but they don't like assholes. (I'm not talking about you Smooth--this is a response to toubab's general statement.) You can treat someone well without handing over all your power to them--I think that is where respect comes into play. Some of the sweetest men I know are involved with total bitches, and I've never understood that. On the flip side, my best friend does everything for her man, and he barely notices she's around unless his dinner isn't ready when he decides to show up. She has put him completely in charge, probably without his consent, and he takes it for granted and most likely resents her making him the responsible one--and I think that is where a lot relationships go off the rails.

If the lady Smooth is involved with knows the rules, and is trying to change them, then that is on her, and she is going to get her feelings hurt. It doesn't sound like he's leading her on.

And Smooth--there is no shame in saying, "I have a lot on my mind, and no I don't really want to talk about it." I was married to crazy jealous for 20 years. It sucks hard. I think you are smart not to take it any further than you have although you have already broken the cardinal rule I've given my son and his friends.


Emerson, damn it, now I feel like making buttermilk biscuits.

What cardinal rule?

 

[Saucyminx]

What cardinal rule?

Never stick your dick in crazy.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Dude, if you are having problems at 22 it ain't good.

Maybe early onset of Erectile Dysfunction.

Maybe you really want guys instead of chicks.

But it ain't good, brah. Now you're going to start worrying about it every time you try and fuck. Not good at all.

What are you and Neci reading from my posts? I don't have erectile dysfunction.I get unbendable hard. Me getting a woody never been a problem and isn't going to be a problem. And I don't want to fuck no fucking men. Idk where the fuck you got that from.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Never stick your dick in crazy.

But the crazy ones have the best sex.

 

[smoothg103rd]

It should have been a wake up call. They almost lost that game.

Yeah they did. But I think they will beat UNC easily.

 

[Saucyminx]

But the crazy ones have the best sex.

Nah, reasonably sane girls can throw down too, they are just quieter about it. If you can take the drama, then more power to you. And honestly, neither my son, nor his friends have listened to me either.

 

[Lunarfaggot]

"Things you use to do, you just don't do it no more. You don't talk to me, you don't kiss me, don't squeeze me, don't pull my hair, don't suck my neck it's like just doing it to get your nut. The other person you're are fucking must like it like that. What, I don't turn you on no more? You ain't eat my pussy, you ain't talking dirty, you just pumping."

I been fucking her for a while. Maybe four or five years. The sex is good, well it use to be good. I know I still got it in me, I just had a lot on my mind. It's not like I was a waste of a fuck, she still got her nuts off. I guess she knew I wasn't into it, because I didn't even bust. I mean, I like the girl, we got chemistry, but I don't want her to feel like it's her. And I also don't want to open up to her and tell her the truth because I don't wanna feel weak. I don't owe her an explanation, we are not in a relationship, we're just cool. I don't like to pillow talk and open up to someone I'm just fucking. So I just told her I got a lot on my mind, which she isn't buying. But it's the truth. During our little sex session random things just was going through my head. Death, I lost three people I went to school with this month. I been thinking about one of my best friends, may God bless his soul. My life, thinking about my Ged, my future, my kids and where I want to be at in my life. Money, how imma have to do something illegal, something I don't want to do but have to, just because my cash flow is getting low. How can I explain all this to someone I'm just fucking? I can't and I won't. I tell her I got a lot on my mind and she thinks that I'm thinking about some other bitch. Like it's a lose lose situation. I don't want her to think that it's her, but I think that's the only solution. What do you think?

It's ok to admit yous a homo,

 

[Lancecastor]

Dude, if you are having problems at 22 it ain't good.

Maybe early onset of Erectile Dysfunction.

Maybe you really want guys instead of chicks.

But it ain't good, brah. Now you're going to start worrying about it every time you try and fuck. Not good at all.

He's totally into trannies...just check his post history.

Total faggot.

 

[zipman]

He's totally into trannies...just check his post history.

Total faggot.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I didn't know he was on down low.

 

[toubab]

Yeah, what Cardinal Rule?

Edit: Oh, that one.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I understand you, Hogan. But I'm not like that. I don't sell dreams and I don't lead people on. I don't do to others what I wouldn't want done to me. I don't play with no one heart, because I wouldn't want minds played with. I'm pretty sure she knows the deal, even if she doesn't want to accept it or not. She never mentioned a relationship to me, so imma take it as she is OK with what is going on. I was just putting it out there, that I can't ever see myself committing to her. I can tell by your post that you are a wise man. Thanks for taking the time to elaborate. I appreciate it.

You're a good soul, Smooth. I probably wouldn't have given two cents for the thug you used to be, and I know there is still a lot of that in you, but the changes you are trying to make in your life are courageous and potentially rewarding in so many ways. I'm pulling like hell for you, and I suspect many others here are as well.

 

[Lancecastor]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I didn't know he was on down low.

Yes, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Except that it's fucking creeeeepy.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Nah, reasonably sane girls can throw down too, they are just quieter about it. If you can take the drama, then more power to you. And honestly, neither my son, nor his friends have listened to me either.

Sometimes I like a little drama.