Why men are nicer to women who wear high heels

[about_average]

How much is a quid?

It's a pound.

Why can't a woman be wearing heels simply because she wants to, why do you assume she is a slave to fashion or worried about the opinions of others? Do you think the average woman is so weak she can't make decisions for herself without outside influence?

Because most people are slaves to fashion and/or worry about what others think about how they are dressed. Why would women be any different?
The men and women's fashion industries wouldn't exist if it were a minority of people.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

No, platforms are constructed differently. High heels are labeled such because of the arch, not because of the actual heel. Platforms have a flat arch, heels have a steeped arch at an incline of 40% or more. There are tons of heels that don't have heels, and they're actually more difficult to walk in. That's why I stated that the original butcher's heels were so hardcore. You use the heel part of the shoe for balance. These shoes would be almost impossible to balance in.

Here's a modern example of what I'm talking about. High heels without heels. Because of the arch.

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Platforms with heels.

No, you are wrong. There is no such thing as a high heel without a heel.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

It's a pound.

Because most people are slaves to fashion and/or worry about what others think about how they are dressed. Why would women be any different?
The men and women's fashion industries wouldn't exist if it were a minority of people.

Most people? Why can't you accept that some women are capable for making choices for themselves? Lots of women love to ear high heels because they love the way they look in them. Simple as that.

It seems to me that certain men and women rail against heels due to a persona agenda.

 

[CandiCame]

No, you are wrong. There is no such thing as a high heel without a heel.

Maybe it's a localization thing, like how the Brits call jackets 'jumpers' regardless of whether they're actual jumper style. In the states the difference between a platform and a heel is the incline of the arch, but that may be completely different other places. Fashion isn't exactly a standardized industry worldwide.

 

[dolf]

Maybe it's a localization thing, like how the Brits call jackets 'jumpers' regardless of whether they're actual jumper style. In the states the difference between a platform and a heel is the incline of the arch, but that may be completely different other places. Fashion isn't exactly a standardized industry worldwide.

no we don't, you bloody pillock!

a jumper is a knitted sweater. ffs

 

[about_average]

Most people?

Yes, most. Like I said, do you think the fashion industry would be a huge as it is, and people constantly bombarded with it in 99% of advertising if only a minority of people cared about making what they consider to be a good impression on others?

Why can't you accept that some women are capable for making choices for themselves? Lots of women love to ear high heels because they love the way they look in them. Simple as that.

I doubt it. A person can't see how they look in what what they are wearing, shoes or otherwise, unless they look in a mirror.
So your argument appears to be people choose some things because they like how they look, when they see themselves for a few seconds during the course of a day.

It seems to me that certain men and women rail against heels due to a persona agenda.

I couldn't care less what other people wear. I just don't find someone abusing their body to be sexy.

 

[Noor]

a few thoughts

I think men are nicer to women who either get them smiling or make them feel helpful in some way even if the women are doing nothing to invoke it.

Guys smile and offer to help me all the time, and I don't wear heels or anything revealing, I am also not helpless but I am 5' 2" and my voice can sound much younger.

Sometimes when I am wearing funky hats, they admire them and ask fashion advice. I tell them to wear whatever makes them feel good and looks nice to them and to own it. I am sure there are women all over the place who hate that I say that.

It's kind of fun when a guy is much taller than you, say 6' 3" or more if you are 5' 2", when he bends down to talk to/kiss/hear/smell you or when you are having a disagreement and he realizes his size is not at all intimating you

Just remember the bigger they are the harder they fall

 

[CandiCame]

Yes, most. Like I said, do you think the fashion industry would be a huge as it is, and people constantly bombarded with it in 99% of advertising if only a minority of people cared about making what they consider to be a good impression on others?

I doubt it. A person can't see how they look in what what they are wearing, shoes or otherwise, unless they look in a mirror.
So your argument appears to be people choose some things because they like how they look, when they see themselves for a few seconds during the course of a day.

I couldn't care less what other people wear. I just don't find someone abusing their body to be sexy.

Wait wait wait wait wait. You honestly, honestly think that people dress because they think OTHERS want them to dress that way? You GENUINELY think that? You think that I like having shit thrown at me and people screaming shit like "freak" and "faggot" at me? You think people throw down thousands of dollars on suits or hundreds on nails on the off chance that someone might notice? You're telling me that a person exists, on this planet, who is stupid enough to actually think that?

 

[dolf]

many people do, yes. which is exactly why you get all the shit for daring to be different, you big dummy.

 

[CandiCame]

many people do, yes. which is exactly why you get all the shit for daring to be different, you big dummy.

No, I know why I get shit and it's religious. It has nothing to do with how you dress. But no, the vast majority of people dress for themselves. We do try to kind of breed it out of them as children and then shove it back in as adults which is... ass backwards? It's insulting to think that people dress for others, and specifically that women dress for men. That's one cognitive click away from, "She was asking to be raped, did you see that outfit?" People wear what they like. People like fashion. And they start young. Some kids will have that one outfit you have to pry off them every so often because they will wear it until it smells... They flat out don't give a shit. You can try to force people to wear shit based on how others will think and you'll often be met with resistance. Try to tell a teenager to change clothes because of what people will think and be prepared for them to stick it in their backpack and put it on when they get to school. People will wear what they like /despite/ what they're told, not because of it. The fashion industry actually needs that to survive, because there are anti-fad establishments within the fashion industry. Because they know that there's a huge section of people, much larger than people who don't chase fads at all, who will wear something specifically because it ISN'T in style. But that attitude, that people have where they're like, "Oh you're just wearing that because X" really, really pisses me off. Because I really like fashion and I really like psychology and it's flat out not true. Well, I take that back, it's probably true in a few cases, but not enough to keep an industry afloat on. The industry needs to build up the 'this will give you confidence' angle because they know people do not give a fuck how others see them. In order to sell things, you have to give it internalizing characteristics. Even narcissism and vanity are personal introverted things rather than extroverted things. People will drive others away with narcissism, not gather them closer.

 

[about_average]

That's one cognitive click away from, "She was asking to be raped, did you see that outfit?"

WTF??
You went to lala land with that statement.

As for

It's insulting to think that people dress for others,

If I'm not mistaken, you are the one who has a sister in law school being taught how to dress for others.
But yeah, people don't dress for others.

 

[dolf]

candi, brits are about as religious as goats are, and people still get shit for being different. fashion is conformity, uniforms are a sense of belonging. by standing out and refusing to conform, you reject their values and provoke their ire.

bleedin' numpty.

 

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[gotsnowgotslush]

I watched the Victoria's Secret special, until I lost electrical power.
I did not pay particular attention to the model's feet.
But, I did notice that they had sexualized Taylor Swift,
so that she would fit in with the show.

The VS models are someone's idea of what is the most highly prized, sexualized image.

High heels sexualize feet. What is less feminine, that a man's broad, flattened, muscular, sinewy feet ? What is more feminine than slim, delicate, curvy feet ?

The sexualization of feet is accomplished by the exaggeration of the curves, by high heels.

The high heels sexualize the image of a woman's body, by deforming her natural posture, and exaggerating the curve of her spine, the curve of her backside, the curve of her breasts.

Many jokes have been made, about stripper high heels.
They are made of some kind of clear plastic, so that
nothing hides anything about the naked feet.
But they do exaggerate the curves of the feet.
They do exaggerate the curves of the seller'sbody.

The stripper is selling an exaggerated sexuality.
She is selling it in a controlled environment.

The expectation is that a stripper will exaggerate the difference between the male patrons and the female strippers.

A woman who wears high heels, operates in a controlled environment-
You will not find a woman wearing high heels, hiking up the side of a snow covered mountain.

Is there recognition on a male's part, that this sexualized and ultra- feminine creature is out of her element ?

Does she appear to be particularly vulnerable ?

Does her appearance signal the need for assistance?

The motive for a male to offer assistance, seems to have many prongs!

Hunting, exploration, ego gratification, oggling, a reward, if only a smile and a thank you.

A sticking point for me, is the woman has the appearance of being open to help, and is more likely not to be unpleasant. She gives the impression that she would be less likely to rebuff the approach of an unknown male.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Why are men nicer to women who wear high heels ?

Because we can talk to them without looking down.

 

[Noor]

Because we can talk to them without looking down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w--9C4uW0A

 

[Boxlicker101]

I believe men might be nicer to women who are wearing heels because the women are displaying their femininity. I also believe the same could be said for long hair or skirts and dresses as opposed to pantsuits.

 

[DMBFFF]

as I posted elsewhere:

Ah, good point—though being a female foot fetishist rather than a shoe fetishist, I find pumps a turn-off: better is bare feet, then flip-flops, then sandals, then sneakers or hiking boots (again not thigh high or high heels)—I suppose because they are suggestive of youthfulness and vitality.

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