Why men are nicer to women who wear high heels

[about_average]

It's not the shoes themselves that attract men folk, it's the no-bullshit attitude that women in heels often have. Confidence and dominance are sexy.

However, being a slave to fashion, or so worried about what others think of you, to the point of wearing something that does actual harm to your body is not sexy in the least.
A woman who has the greater confidence to not do that is a lot sexier to me.

 

[CandiCame]

However, being a slave to fashion, or so worried about what others think of you, to the point of wearing something that does actual harm to your body is not sexy in the least.
A woman who has the greater confidence to not do that is a lot sexier to me.

It's not really somuch for fashion. You make more money and such if you wear heels too. It's a smart thing to do. And they're actually not super bad for your feet. They make your ankles weaker, but so do... pretty much all shoes ever. Unless you get those minimalistic shoes and no one wants those because they look like feet and it's fucking creepy. Even shoes that are designed for running and such are almost as bad as platforms. Yes, stilletos are going to be the most damaging, but the style of heel isn't what determines the sociological perks, it's the height. There's actually a LOT of pediatrists out there who will tell you that if you're going to wear shoes (after they explain to you that you shouldn't) you should wear at least a little bit of a heel. I'm not educated enough in foot science to know why this is, but it's not a gender specific recommendation.

It's gonna be super rare to find a shoe that doesn't compress your feet, and that, not the height, is the issue with women's dress shoes. They can compress your feet by up to an inch, to the point that it actually kinda fucks up your toes. But the thing is... most shoes do this. And we've ALWAYS known this- fucking Sherlock Holmes uses it in a... incredibly racist way to prove that a Native killed a guy based on his feet. Because Natives don't wear shoes and therefore don't have the compression and he saw that in the footprints. Yet, like I said, nobody wants to wear the shoes that technology has advanced to fix that problem because they're freaky looking and we all hate them. We keep wearing our compressed shoes, and then bitch about women for having the same thing at a different angle? And then try to say that's the opposite of sexism? That makes no sense.

Edit: The damage being done from the type of shoe is actually nearly negligible. Now, that doesn't mean you should start working out in stilettos, but you're also going to get those same sociological 'men being nice to you' in high heeled running shoes like Sketchers Shape Ups. Which I bought just because they were high heeled running shoes. Because Jesus Christ we live in a society where that's a thing.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-01/barefoot-running-study-finds-your-sneakers-are-unnatural

http://www.thebarefootbook.com/

 

[dolf]

You make more money and such if you wear heels too. It's a smart thing to do.

I stopped reading at this point, because I was angry and wanting to use your balls as a punchbag.

 

[CandiCame]

I stopped reading at this point, because I was angry and wanting to use your balls as a punchbag.

You do tho. The taller you appear the more money you make, because of the height = power thing I was talking about before. According to Forbes it's around $800 more that you'll make in heels, so... if you're buying a $900 pair of heels it's probably not worth it. Unless they're really, really cute.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tykiisel/2013/03/20/you-are-judged-by-your-appearance/

 

[bronzeage]

It's weird that I said literally the exact opposite of this. I very seriously doubt that any guy who hasn't worn heels thinks about this at all, and the ones that have think like I do, ie: She has mad balance and simple math says that reducing the surface area of a kick makes it more powerful. Men who aren't fashion minded still notice heels because I don't think I know a single man who hasn't had one thrown at him or who doesn't know someone who's been attacked with them. If you wear them, they = fashion. If you don't they = weapons. You have to remember that heels weren't invented to keep women down in the same manner that footbinding was, they were originally designed in mid evil England for male butchers, so they could wade through blood. That's the arched design that we still use today. Before that they were used by male nobles to achieve more height, but they were designed slightly differently and weren't as restrictive. The restriction was considered necessary in the butcher trade because tho it killed your ankles it actually made you less likely to stick to the clotted blood, because there was less surface area.

...not that I'm fucking obsessed with heels and have multiple bins of them or anything...

...at all.

...I'm short, ok?

I never heard the butcher and blood thing before. Did you just make that up?

Don't forget about saddles and stirrups. Heels keep your boots from slipping through the stirrups, which could be very inconvenient.

 

[about_average]

It's not really somuch for fashion. You make more money and such if you wear heels too. It's a smart thing to do.

If that's actually true, it's only because people are stupid.

And they're actually not super bad for your feet.

Even though a 3" heel increases the pressure on the ball of the foot by 75%, it's not just your feet. They are bad for your knees, pelvis, spine and neck (technically part of the spine of course).

 

[dolf]

Even though a 3" heel increases the pressure on the ball of the foot by 75%, it's not just your feet. They are bad for your knees, pelvis, spine and neck (technically part of the spine of course).

and what are the statistics on other accidents, I wonder. broken ankles, dislocated knees, falls down stairs, being knocked over because you can't move as fast...

 

[CandiCame]

I never heard the butcher and blood thing before. Did you just make that up?

Don't forget about saddles and stirrups. Heels keep your boots from slipping through the stirrups, which could be very inconvenient.

That's a... really obvious and easily googliable fact. I have no idea how you would not know it. But the oldest pair of heels comes from an Ancient Egyptian butcher, and they are hard fucking core. Also; this.

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/High+heels+for+the+bloody+butcher+type_775b1f_5122839.jpg

But the early heels looked like this: http://www.randomhistory.com/photos/2008/chopines.jpg

Then in Europe the men started wearing the kind you think about today with less surface area to get stuck in the blood. They did that for around 2 centuries before women started wearing them. Women found that their long skirts, which were the style at the time, would get caked with shit in the street, which was as deep as 4 in, which was... apparently also the style at the time? England?? WTF?? So they started using men's patterns over their pretty shoes, and then shops eventually started making women's patterns.

Patterns, btw, I don't mean the thing that you lay out and use to make your shoe, that's actually what they were called. And you slipped them on over your good shoes that you didn't want blood or shit or both on. During the Roccocco period, people started wearing heels as a fashion statement, but this was actually regulated to men and women who held manly positions, like the desire to sleep with bunches of people as opposed to their cultural norms. So you could tell that a woman was a courtesan, as opposed to a wife, by her shoes. Wives wore women's shoes, which were flats, and courtesans and mistresses wore heels. Now go back and look at that painting the swing and see if you can get all the sexy, sexy undertones. That have to do with adultery. And Swinging. Wink wink nudge nudge.

 

[CandiCame]

and what are the statistics on other accidents, I wonder. broken ankles, dislocated knees, falls down stairs, being knocked over because you can't move as fast...

Oh yeah, they're shit on your ankle. I fucked my ankle up so bad one time in heels, because I was drunk at a drag show and hit the ground weird and fell off the stage, all because my drunk ass didn't know how to walk in heels. I'm not saying they're not dangerous. I'm just saying that I'm still gonna wear them.

Haha, I don't learn lessons.

 

[dolf]

Oh yeah, they're shit on your ankle. I fucked my ankle up so bad one time in heels, because I was drunk at a drag show and hit the ground weird and fell off the stage, all because my drunk ass didn't know how to walk in heels. I'm not saying they're not dangerous. I'm just saying that I'm still gonna wear them.

Haha, I don't learn lessons.

I've seen enough crippled old ladies to know that putting my feet, ankles and knees at risk isn't 'the smart thing to do', complying with societies stupid and unhealthy expectations just or a few extra quid.

 

[CandiCame]

Seriously, England. At the time those shit wallowing streets existed, North Africa and South America, the other powerhouses of the world had fucking surgeons and such. There's no excuse for having to invent fashion to avoid street shit.

I tried so hard to find the cartoon from Horrible Histories that talks about the history of high heels and I can't.

 

[CandiCame]

I've seen enough crippled old ladies to know that putting my feet, ankles and knees at risk isn't 'the smart thing to do', complying with societies stupid and unhealthy expectations just or a few extra quid.

How much is a quid? I wish our units of money were adorable sounding.

Edit: Also, it might not be this way in other places, but in the states, a lot of female lawyers talk about how they're taught in school to always wear heels. Because they make you so much more powerful, and even have an entire class on how to dress. I know more about that class than I should because my sister-in-law is in law school and thinks that it's really fucking sexist, and is trying to find a way to change it. It's not just the heel thing, there's a LOT of sexist shit. Like it's still considered more 'professional' to wear skirts, and to have a hair type under 2C, which means that you'll be forced to pour burning chemical straighteners onto your head, and just a bunch of other really unhealthy shit.

Edit: I think that Jezebel actually wrote an article about the law school thing, but I might be wrong.

Edit: Also, to get the sociological benefits you really just have to be taller, so you can wear platforms, which offer the same support as other shoes, which, as I've already states is shitty, but... still. It's no shittier than other dress shoes and it's more money. Platforms are 99% of what I have anyway, because they're what are available for men and in drag sizes. Strait up menswear is basically platforms and those cowboy heels that are... unattractive. I hate those.

 

[dolf]

How much is a quid? I wish our units of money were adorable sounding.

Edit: Also, it might not be this way in other places, but in the states, a lot of female lawyers talk about how they're taught in school to always wear heels. Because they make you so much more powerful, and even have an entire class on how to dress. I know more about that class than I should because my sister-in-law is in law school and thinks that it's really fucking sexist, and is trying to find a way to change it. It's not just the heel thing, there's a LOT of sexist shit. Like it's still considered more 'professional' to wear skirts, and to have a hair type under 2C, which means that you'll be forced to pour burning chemical straighteners onto your head, and just a bunch of other really unhealthy shit.

your sister in law sounds smarter than you. your brain is addled by sluttiness.

 

[CandiCame]

your sister in law sounds smarter than you. your brain is addled by sluttiness.

I think it might be a tumor. But yeah, she's the smart one. My brother's a goddamn idiot tho. So... that's weird. Right? I mean I thought that was weird at the time. He's about the same intelligence level as me and we are dumb as hell. Thank god he's pretty. I get pissed sometimes because I think she settled for him because she thinks she's ugly. She's not but she thinks she is. Because she's overweight. And it makes me sad. Because she's a good person and he's a dumbass.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

However, being a slave to fashion, or so worried about what others think of you, to the point of wearing something that does actual harm to your body is not sexy in the least.
A woman who has the greater confidence to not do that is a lot sexier to me.

Why can't a woman be wearing heels simply because she wants to, why do you assume she is a slave to fashion or worried about the opinions of others? Do you think the average woman is so weak she can't make decisions for herself without outside influence?

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

It is disturbing, to see the men wearing shoes that are pretty much slippers, with their suits and ties, while the women wear high heels with their business wear.

The order of the day is to reflect a professional attitude, and the elegance of their surroundings.

Facade- Only the empty heads at the top , are eating the honey.
The worker bees are adding crippling debt to their burdens,
to enable the facade to radiate an impression of wealth and power.

Cheap coffee and French fries for lunch, wearing cheap knock offs,
while the private corner office crowd has another boozed up
party, schmoozing and laughing.

 

[CandiCame]

But yeah, platforms. Platforms give you the same benefits and don't look fucking hideously boxy ugly. Why is that the only option in men's heels?

http://www.youdontsay.org/Shoeboot/Shoes74.jpg

Fucking hideous.

http://neighborgoods.net/peoplepods/files/images/0/0/37.resized.jpg?date=1246033490

Much better

 

[vizio]

men are nicer to attractive women period regardless of having heel on or not

 

[Kitty]

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/images/smilies/hmmmm2.gif

Noooo.

When I'm at the beach and barefoot I get men offering to help set up my umbrella and chairs all the time.

I also am a city gal and we tend to like to look "cool and hip" out here, and there is a pro-pedestrian lifestyle, and we actually tend to laugh at women who are caught walking in heels. Because we know her feet are killing her. Heel-wearers are normally getting out of taxis or something, or walking in close proximity of where they work. Most people in NY walk long distances. So sneakers/trainers, wedges, boots...there are far too many people and then different types of people, for men here to only like women in heels.

Indoors, now, yes, the woman who wears heels in the workplace just looks chic and sexy. I don't care what your work status is, you should dress presentably.

But yes, heels do accentuate the posture (if she can walk in them). And it's rare in busy residential/shopping districts here for a woman to even wear heels; so when a woman is wearing heels, she stands out for the simple fact that she is wearing them. It can also help a woman "tower" over her competition.

"How does she afford them?" There are so many stores and different deals, and such high demand for heels that they actually don't cost any different than a pair of sneakers or even flats sometimes. And that's also a dangerous statement. You don't know where or how or from whom she got the shoes and you probably don't want to know. OR she needs to sort out her priorities.

I have also noticed if the woman is just hot it doesn't matter what she's wearing.

But...oookay.

 

[Kitty]

men are nicer to attractive women period regardless of having heel on or not

lol in a nutshell.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

That's a... really obvious and easily googliable fact. I have no idea how you would not know it. But the oldest pair of heels comes from an Ancient Egyptian butcher, and they are hard fucking core. Also; this.

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/High+heels+for+the+bloody+butcher+type_775b1f_5122839.jpg

But the early heels looked like this: http://www.randomhistory.com/photos/2008/chopines.jpg

Then in Europe the men started wearing the kind you think about today with less surface area to get stuck in the blood. They did that for around 2 centuries before women started wearing them. Women found that their long skirts, which were the style at the time, would get caked with shit in the street, which was as deep as 4 in, which was... apparently also the style at the time? England?? WTF?? So they started using men's patterns over their pretty shoes, and then shops eventually started making women's patterns.

Patterns, btw, I don't mean the thing that you lay out and use to make your shoe, that's actually what they were called. And you slipped them on over your good shoes that you didn't want blood or shit or both on. During the Roccocco period, people started wearing heels as a fashion statement, but this was actually regulated to men and women who held manly positions, like the desire to sleep with bunches of people as opposed to their cultural norms. So you could tell that a woman was a courtesan, as opposed to a wife, by her shoes. Wives wore women's shoes, which were flats, and courtesans and mistresses wore heels. Now go back and look at that painting the swing and see if you can get all the sexy, sexy undertones. That have to do with adultery. And Swinging. Wink wink nudge nudge.

There is no heel in your picture of an ancient shoe. They is a platform.

 

[Riles]

He has a short torso and long legs?

Smartass.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Why are men nicer to women who wear high heels ?

A study has been done, and it proves that a man is more likely to offer help to a woman in high heels. Drop some item, and he will be likely to pick it up for you if you are wearing high heels. Or, open a door for you. Or, carry something for you. Or, share a cab with you.

Wear high heels, get men to be your slaves.

Wait is this thread from 2014 or 1950?

 

[smoothg103rd]

I prefer being nicer to a woman with nothing on. Fuck a high heel.

 

[CandiCame]

There is no heel in your picture of an ancient shoe. They is a platform.

No, platforms are constructed differently. High heels are labeled such because of the arch, not because of the actual heel. Platforms have a flat arch, heels have a steeped arch at an incline of 40% or more. There are tons of heels that don't have heels, and they're actually more difficult to walk in. That's why I stated that the original butcher's heels were so hardcore. You use the heel part of the shoe for balance. These shoes would be almost impossible to balance in.

Here's a modern example of what I'm talking about. High heels without heels. Because of the arch.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_03/003shoesDM_468x320.jpg

Platforms with heels.

http://tokyofashion.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/TK-2012-05-19-005-006-Harajuku.jpg