Every police department in the US, so far as I'm aware, teaches its officers to shoot to kill, if it becomes necessary to shoot. The training is standard across the nation, so far as I know.
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Every police department in the US, so far as I'm aware, teaches its officers to shoot to kill, if it becomes necessary to shoot. The training is standard across the nation, so far as I know.
His only problem was he had an insatiable desire to smoke cigarillos. He just had to have them, no matter what it took to get them.
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Shooting for center of mass is more an apt phrasing. A civilian shouldn't even draw a gun until you are ready to exert deadly force. A cop can brandish but is encouraged to leave it in the holster to prolong decision-making time. A cop should never fire a "warning shot."
A shooter has to assume every bullet is fatal. Including any in the line of site behind your target and it's apparent backstop. This is partly why police departments do not allow .45s. Too much chance of a fragment causing collateral damage, though odds are not death.
Once the decision is made that pulling that trigger is justified, you have already committed to take a life. You are supposed to keep firing until the target quits advancing.
No Hollywood style ~ shoot them once and then tenderly cradle them in your arms as they bleed out and acknowledge their wrongs in deathbed repentance.
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You know, this is one time when your #OCD is of benefit to the board. I've lost track of the number of times I've heard the #PoliceAreTrainedToShootToKill jibber-jabber in the past week, but you are correct, it's center of mass, nothing else.
"A shooter has to assume every bullet is fatal."
If you shoot at center of mass, you are shooting to kill.
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I am a bit surprised though (assuming the guy had presence of mind and skill to aim) that he waited till the 5th shot to raise his sight.
I doubt he had concerns about body armor (cops look for signs of that) but cop legend is a 9mm going through a phone book of flesh will not stop someone, especially if that person is motivated chemically that includes adrenaline, but cops in these shootings hope it comes back PCP.
When his first four (I am assuming) did not slow him it confirmed the cops bias that a big, scary black guy who had (allegedly) hit him already was going to harm him. If it was harmless, but drunk big white corn-fed bubba staggering in his general direction might he have hesitated on the last two? Maybe so. If the first shot was justified unless there was a significant period of retreat, the next 5 were.
Might he have not taken "cop tone" and 'cop attitude" with Brown if brown were white? Possibly. Maybe it would've been a 'hey, lemme talk to you a minute.' and NO altercation would ensue.
As you might expect I am argumentative. I had a cop in my home one night leaving his gun side unprotected and essentially daring me to leg-sweep him. He was trespassing by that point. Fortunately I did not take the bait even though this guy was about my size. His stance screamed ex-high-school-wrestler and I wasn't gonna bite. He later got indicted on abuse charges. He tased a crippled guy and a woman repeatedly. There ARE cops like that...SOME probably gravitate to where they can overcompensate more in the higher crime districts.
Most cops would have put two in center of mass, then raised the sight. He might have gotten 3 flyers but one of them is going to stop the guy. Considering that the 5th shot went right through Browns eye, I suspect that range records would show the cop practices.
I'm not trying to argue with you, but it's possible the cop was continuing to aim for center mass and Brown started leaning forward more, or started falling, when hit in the head. This all happened very, very quickly, as I'm sure you realize.
Add until they go down and you will be correct.
Any cop who says "I shot him at center mass until he went down, but I only meant to wound him, not kill him" is a liar. Cops don't shoot to wound.
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Sixth shot that is very possible. The 5th shot likely killed him and near as I can guess without seeing wound path (ugh) is he was looking at the officer when he was shot.
I bought head down charging but Sean corrected me on that. He is right people might lower a shoulder but not their head.
Oh shit...I said sean is right and I didn't say "might be right" dammit!
Baden says all wounds were survivable except the one that entered the top of the head.
Sean is wrong. Watch a football game.
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Baden said maybe...he said as I did that he would need to see xrays to determine.
Assuming straight into the eye, there is no where for a nine mm to go but down into the medulla. It is unlikely to exit the back of the skull. .40 yes, 9 no.
I haven't said anything about this previously, because I haven't thought about it enough to try to form an opinion about what it means, and for some reason I'm getting too tired of trying to figure out exactly what happened in this killing. I'll just be lazy and throw it out there, for discussion. Let somebody else do the thinking.
Brown was wearing a baseball cap when this went down. I saw it on the street a couple of feet or so from his head as he lay face down after being fatally wounded by a shot that had entered the top of his skull. I wonder if there was a hole in the top of the cap or not. If so, his cap was still on, apparently, when the fatal shot hit. If not, that would mean his cap came off before the final shot hit. If so, what are the implications?
Brown was wearing a baseball cap when this went down. I saw it on the street a couple of feet or so from his head as he lay face down after being fatally wounded by a shot that had entered the top of his skull. I wonder if there was a hole in the top of the cap or not. If so, his cap was still on, apparently, when the fatal shot hit. If not, that would mean his cap came off before the final shot hit. If so, what are the implications?
I saw Baden on TV make a definitive statement. Maybe he has altered his opinion.
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Obviously, the cop didn't like baseball much.
It was a Cardinals cap, though. What are the chances of that cop not liking the Cardinals?
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Has Obama dispatched his staff, the Justice Department, The FBI??? Wait! What! None were killed by a white man...oh...uh...forget it, no big deal:
CHICAGO: 4 KILLED, 24 WOUNDED; CHILD SHOT 6 TIMES
Once again we see that Chicago is no Ferguson, Missouri, as the national media ignored another 30 shootings in the Windy City over the August 22 weekend. More shockingly, during the carnage several children were shot this weekend, adding to an incident earlier this week week in which a nine-year-old boy was shot six times.
The bloodshed began Thursday when nine-year-old Antonio Smith was found dead a few blocks from the apartment complex in which he lived. The boy was shot six times. A fatal shot to his head killed him.
The boy was a popular presence in the neighborhood, and no one can understand why he was targeted and killed.
Little Antonio's mother told the media, "I can't even grasp... no words to tell you how I'd feel... I'm gonna die. I love [every] one of my kids... This is a mother's fear."
Along with Antonio, eight others were also wounded Thursday.
The violence continued as Friday and the weekend arrived. As Sunday night went dark the tally came to 4 killed and 24 wounded over this bloody weekend.
A 17-year-old was killed by gang members on South Marshall, a man in his twenties was shot in a drive-by, a 30-year-old was also gunned down, and the fourth man killed was a 40-year-old who was also killed in a drive-by shooting.
Saturday saw the shooting of another small child as a three-year-old boy was shot in the head late in the evening. This was the result of an accidental shooting as the boy and a friend were playing with a gun they found left in a bedroom by the boy's father.
After the shooting the father took the gun and fled the scene.
Another young boy, a 14-year-old, was shot in the Austin neighborhood on Sunday.
Even as Monday dawned, the bloodshed did not end. Early Monday morning two men were killed in shootouts with police in two separate incidents.
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